GS Warrick misspeaks?

[Cindi Hammons]

Apparently GS Warrick was a speaker at Commencement Ceremonies at MVNU this past week. This quote was taken from the Mt. Vernon city newspaper. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement?

"Warrick referenced a scene in a Harry Potter movie where one boy stopped and said if he took another step, he’d be farther away from home than he’s ever been before. With Harry’s encouragement, the boy took another step forward, and they continued their journey."

As my husband said, if one is going to quote pop culture, especially to young adults, one better be sure they are quoting accurately. :eek:

A big pat on the back to the first person to accurately reference his quoted scenario.

[Jeremy D. Scott]

Apparently GS Warrick was a speaker at Commencement Ceremonies at MVNU this past week. This quote was taken from the Mt. Vernon city newspaper. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement?

"Warrick referenced a scene in a Harry Potter movie where one boy stopped and said if he took another step, he’d be farther away from home than he’s ever been before. With Harry’s encouragement, the boy took another step forward, and they continued their journey."

As my husband said, if one is going to quote pop culture, especially to young adults, one better be sure they are quoting accurately. :eek:

A big pat on the back to the first person to accurately reference his quoted scenario.

It was Lord of the Rings, not Harry Potter.

[Cindi Hammons]

Ding, ding, ding! Jeremy is our winner!

Thank you for playing!

[Jeremy D. Scott]

Apparently GS Warrick was a speaker at Commencement Ceremonies at MVNU this past week. This quote was taken from the Mt. Vernon city newspaper. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement?

"Warrick referenced a scene in a Harry Potter movie where one boy stopped and said if he took another step, he’d be farther away from home than he’s ever been before. With Harry’s encouragement, the boy took another step forward, and they continued their journey."

As my husband said, if one is going to quote pop culture, especially to young adults, one better be sure they are quoting accurately. :eek:

A big pat on the back to the first person to accurately reference his quoted scenario.

That's funny, because when I read that article in my Google News alert, my first thought wasn't about the fact that the movie & character were wrong, but that I was surprised to hear GS Warrick quoting Harry Potter.

[Sara Sheppard]

Maybe the paper misquoted him??? Who knows. But it is funny. ;)

Sara

[Pete Vecchi]

Ding, ding, ding! Jeremy is our winner!

Thank you for playing!

Well, all I can say is that I am simply too spiritual to have watched either of those movies. Just what is the Church coming to when people watch movies, anyway? :basic03














OK -- for anyone who didn't get it, my post is meant to be a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hans Deventer]

"Warrick referenced a scene in a Harry Potter movie where one boy stopped and said if he took another step, he’d be farther away from home than he’s ever been before. With Harry’s encouragement, the boy took another step forward, and they continued their journey."

It is Sam Gamgee saying this to Frodo Baggins at the moment they are leaving the Shire on their way to the Prancing Pony.

[Scott Hilton]

I am now in the mood for a LOTR weekend........Gimli is cool.

[Barb Bouldrey]

Poor preachers who get quoted in newspapers. It is bad enough when the preacher keeps saying, "Moses and the Ark" and he keeps ignoring his wife trying to mouth the name, "Noah."

LOL

This was a blooper of our former D.S.

Barb

[Cindi Hammons]

I know Barb! :) I just think it was extra-funny because he was quoting this to graduates who have cut their teeth on LOTR! It would be like misquoting Bugs Bunny to a child of the 60's! I'll bet those graduates could hardly sit still for all the laughing.

On another "blooper" note. One time while in college, my roommate and I attended her home church for a Sunday morning service. We really liked her pastor, Gary Miller. He was preaching about Abraham (don't ask me what his point was, because it got lost after he read the scripture). He then started quoting from the Bible, KJV I'm guessing..."Then Abraham got off his %$$ (donkey) and went to..." Just use your imagination. I don't remember another word because we were struggling not to fall over laughing. In fact, I think NazNetter Sue Pyles was sitting near us during that sermon! Ha! Ha! Oh well. :)

[Cindi Hammons]

Scott, never toss a dwarf!

[Billy Cox]

I have more than once seen a pastor make a popular culture reference that underscored that he had never seen the TV show or movie he was referring to.

One such sermon referred to 'the jerk factor' in terms of not being a cruel to others. The preacher mentioned the movie 'The Jerk' several times, which has actually has nothing to do with a mean guy and is more like a 1970's version of Forrest Gump. I would wager that the preacher had never seen the movie and was surmising the plot based on the title alone.

If you're going to springboard off of popular culture with any credibility, you had better do your homework because the audience can spot a phoney in a heartbeat.

Maybe Warrick just got his movies mixed up. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt...as if it matters.

[Sue Pyles]

Cindi,
I was probably laughing right along with you or pinching you to keep you focused. I have a problem with snorting when I try to stifle a giggle.
I also remember the day that Ken Carney said, "Let everyone who hath breasts praise the Lord."
It's funny we can remember quotes such as these, but have no idea what the message was about.
Did you know Garey Miller was now the DS in Iowa?

[Mike Norris]

..Well...I was there. Anyone who lives in Mount Vernon knows that the local newspaper makes so many mistakes that it is embarrassing to admit that it is a paper from our city.
Now.....Warrick actually had a clip from the " Lord of the Rings " shown in which Sam does say to Frodo that if he takes one more step......he will be farther away from home than he has ever been. Warrick used that clip as part of his address. .....which......by the way....was the best commencement speech I have ever heard. ( And I've heard lots of them!!! )

[Dennis M. Scott]

So Dr. Norris, will Dr. Warrick be GS at NCO assembly this year? :basic05

[Dave McClung]

Apparently GS Warrick was a speaker at Commencement Ceremonies at MVNU this past week. This quote was taken from the Mt. Vernon city newspaper. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this statement?

"Warrick referenced a scene in a Harry Potter movie where one boy stopped and said if he took another step, he’d be farther away from home than he’s ever been before. With Harry’s encouragement, the boy took another step forward, and they continued their journey."

As my husband said, if one is going to quote pop culture, especially to young adults, one better be sure they are quoting accurately. :eek:

A big pat on the back to the first person to accurately reference his quoted scenario.

I have no idea if general superintendents get help in writing their sermons. They speak so often that I don't see how all of it could be original with them. Perhaps the speech writer made a mistake.

[Mike Norris]

.....Dennis....Warrick is our GS.

[Beth Larpenter-Shurbutt]

Dr. Warrick was the presiding General at our Assembly this past weekend, and I was VERY impressed!!!!

As far as newspapers quoting people . . . there seem to be glitches between people's mouths and reporter's ears in our local newspaper. It's amazing!!!

I don't believe half of what I read.

Beth

[Ryan Scott]

I have no idea if general superintendents get help in writing their sermons. They speak so often that I don't see how all of it could be original with them. Perhaps the speech writer made a mistake.



Well, I've heard a few of the GSs give the same sermon several times. They probably just have eight or ten each year that they write and preach over and over again. I've actually heard one sermon from Jerry Porter four times. It's quite the preaching lesson to hear someone give the same message over and over again.

[David Pettigrew]

Cindi and Jeremy - I'm going to go out on a limb here.

Were you guys by any chance bible quizzing champions?

:basic03

[Cindi Hammons]

Ummm...I quizzed, but was in no way a champion! Ha! Many of my friends from those days would be having a great laugh right now! :) Nope, just a lover of LOTR and Harry Potter...as well as an MVNU graduate.

However...it appears that the mistake was not GS Warrick's but the Mt. Vernon News' error.

[David Pettigrew]

Sorry, Cindi. I was just poking a little fun at the assumption that bible quizzers tend to be a little, um, "brainy". When I was a youth pastor and took my teens to quizzes, I used to say that bible quizzing was the star trek convention of the Church of the Nazarene. I'm probably just jealous b/c I'm a horrible memorizer, and a really slow rear-end lifter.

[Cindi Hammons]

Okay, I have to tell you this, and then I'll probably get in trouble. I once saw a quizzer (recently) wear a T-shirt that said, "A Freak For Jesus." My friend leaned over and said, "Nope...just a freak!" Many of the quizzers on our district are just normal kids having fun...others are...well...you know...

Now I'm in trouble!:eek:

[David Pettigrew]

I have more than once seen a pastor make a popular culture reference that underscored that he had never seen the TV show or movie he was referring to.

One such sermon referred to 'the jerk factor' in terms of not being a cruel to others. The preacher mentioned the movie 'The Jerk' several times, which has actually has nothing to do with a mean guy and is more like a 1970's version of Forrest Gump. I would wager that the preacher had never seen the movie and was surmising the plot based on the title alone.

If you're going to springboard off of popular culture with any credibility, you had better do your homework because the audience can spot a phoney in a heartbeat.

Maybe Warrick just got his movies mixed up. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt...as if it matters.

A couple of years ago we had a revival with a beloved retired GS. He closed his sermon by saying "I'd like us to stand and sing a great new contemporary chorus I've come to love. Let's sing 'Learning to Lean' ".

If anyone shoots me a private message, I'll tell you about how he paid for pizza for the youth group one night!

[Billy Cox]

A couple of years ago we had a revival with a beloved retired GS. He closed his sermon by saying "I'd like us to stand and sing a great new contemporary chorus I've come to love. Let's sing 'Learning to Lean' ".

If anyone shoots me a private message, I'll tell you about how he paid for pizza for the youth group one night!

Maybe he wrote that sermon back when the song was contemporary.

I have long suspected that when one becomes a DS, GS, or evangelist, you can re-use your top 10 sermons for the rest of your career and never write a new one.

[Pete Vecchi]

I have long suspected that when one becomes a DS, GS, or evangelist, you can re-use your top 10 sermons for the rest of your career and never write a new one.

When I served as an evanglist for about 9 years, I often used the sermons more than once. Why not? It is the same message to a different group of people. The way it usually went for me was that I would generally get to hold revivals only in small churches (I preached in services with fewer than 10 people in attendance, and I don't think I ever preached in a revival service--even on a Sunday morning--where there were over 150 people or so in attendance).

I had to pray about it, but the Lord showed me that it was a different ministry than a pastoral ministry. If I preached the same message to 10 different groups of 20 people, that would be like preaching the message only once to 200 people. And in reality, even when I used the same Scripture and the same outline, the sermon never came out the same way twice.

And also, I kept careful records. I don't think I ever used the exact set of messages for any 2 revivals I held (it MAY have happened once or twice, but it I don't think it was any more than that). While I didn't necessarily write new sermons every day or every week, I continued to write sermons. By the 9th year I served as an evabgelist, most of the messages I'd preached in the first 4 or 5 years were hardly preached again--some not at all.

If a GS preaches for multiple district assemblies, while there may be some people who will be at more than one of the assemblies, by and large, the congregation is different. If he/she preaches to 500 people in 10 different settings, that would be like preaching to 5000 people in one setting. I see nothing wrong with that.

The key is to let the Holy Spirit be the guide.

[Hans Deventer]

Pete, same here. I preach in several churches on the district. I keep good records of what I preached where. Because yes, I do preach some sermons several times. Rather a good old one I'm comfortable with, than a bad new one. I'm not ashamed of that.
I've been writing sermons since 1988, but I don't preach old ones anymore. Rarely older than 1 or 2 years. So that works the same way too.

I've had one occasion where I came with a sermon and praying before the service, I found out it was the wrong one. Fortunately, I had preached another one only 2 weeks before and that one did fit a lot better, so I trusted God and went on with that one, with nothing but the Scripture reading. As you wrote, it's all about seeking God's guidance.

[Charlene Clevenger]

I noticed Warrick had a small mistake in one of the Quest videos. Nothing major, he just said the wrong word, and I can't remember what it was, but I wondered why they didn't just redo it.