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Ian Gentles
6th July 2007, 02:14 PM (14:14)
Wy wife says its between watching golf or chricket lol of course i love both extremely, but what bores you most to watch?

Mike Wooldridge
6th July 2007, 02:35 PM (14:35)
Cricket, because I have no idea what a "googly" is. :)
Mike

Bob Evans
6th July 2007, 02:43 PM (14:43)
Golf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Ryan Scott
6th July 2007, 02:56 PM (14:56)
Paint drying. Other than that, if someone can win it, I'm watching it. Scrabble tournament, dog show, beauty pageant, snail races, doesn't matter. I'm a competition junkie.

Tour de France starts tomorrow. I'm really excited; absolutely my favorite annual sporting event.

Ryan Scott
6th July 2007, 02:57 PM (14:57)
I take it all back. Unless its the last ten laps, NASCAR bores the heck out of me.

Gina Stevenson
6th July 2007, 03:30 PM (15:30)
I take it all back. Unless its the last ten laps, NASCAR bores the heck out of me.

Nascar? Other than the noise [how did I used to stand car races?], I'm with ya, Ryan.

The gal who fell asleep at the Indy 500! [well, our seats were on the grass, we were tired, the blanket on the ground was inviting ....] The droning roar lulls one after awhile ..............

Ryan Scott
6th July 2007, 04:51 PM (16:51)
Oh, I like open-wheeled racing just fine; it's those stock cars that bore me. And no, I haven't figured out how that works either.

Gina Stevenson
7th July 2007, 01:57 AM (01:57)
Oh, I like open-wheeled racing just fine; it's those stock cars that bore me. And no, I haven't figured out how that works either.

Huh? How what "works"? :gen05 :gen08

Ryan Scott
7th July 2007, 07:08 PM (19:08)
The fact that I don't mind watching open wheel vehicles going 225 mph around a track, but I'm bored out of my mind watching stock cars do the same thing at 190mph?

Gina Stevenson
7th July 2007, 07:22 PM (19:22)
The fact that I don't mind watching open wheel vehicles going 225 mph around a track, but I'm bored out of my mind watching stock cars do the same thing at 190mph?

Oh, OK. Guess, other than the round-&-round for hours at Indy, there weren't recognizable cars, as there were here in MI {Berlin Raceway in Marne} when I used to go once in awhile with a friend long, long ("decades") ago. Back then, I'd see "my" '69 Camaro with big spoiler going around there. Well, looked just like it! ;)

Wilson L. Deaton
7th July 2007, 07:35 PM (19:35)
Wy wife says its between watching golf or chricket lol of course i love both extremely, but what bores you most to watch?

If Jon Long says it's his pastor preaching, he's in big trouble!!!

For me it has to be watching other people play video games!

Wilson

Jonathan Long
8th July 2007, 03:50 PM (15:50)
Wilson,

I only napped for a few minutes this morning during the sermon....

Jon

Wilson L. Deaton
8th July 2007, 04:20 PM (16:20)
Wilson,

I only napped for a few minutes this morning during the sermon....

Jon

I announced my Scripture passage as Rev. 1:4-6, then paused before I began reading,

"John,
To the seven churches in the province of Asia:"

When I said, "John," rather loudly I noticed you startled from your nap... ;)

Wilson

Roland Hearn
8th July 2007, 05:28 PM (17:28)
Oh, OK. Guess, other than the round-&-round for hours at Indy, there weren't recognizable cars, as there were here in MI {Berlin Raceway in Marne} when I used to go once in awhile with a friend long, long ("decades") ago. Back then, I'd see "my" '69 Camaro with big spoiler going around there. Well, looked just like it! ;)


I'm going to make an observation here that I think has some merit. It occurred to me a number of years ago what the primary philosophical difference between American sports and British sports was. American sports; football, baseball, basketball, NASCAR, Indie and even ice hockey to an extent are competitions designed to match competitors against each other, British sports; soccer, two Rugby codes, cricket, golf, tennis, field hockey (and it is amazing that in those two lists is almost the sum total of world sports) are competitions against competitors and the environment.

So NASCAR and Indie races are run on oval tracks, British races and I include us Aussies there because we don't quite make a group on our own - although close, run races on circuits that are designed to resemble roads with bends in both directions. There is not one oval track in Australia of any note, the primary race course goes over a mountain and is near 3 and 1/2 mile long, even the only Indie race run outside the US is on a street circuit. US Football is played in stadiums on astro turf, Rugby codes could never be played on astro turf, cricket is played in a three sixty field, baseball is played in a much more defined arc, in cricket the ball bounces off the grass track and in baseball it goes unhindered through the air. Of course this is not an absolute, it is a tendancy. But if you look at them American sports evolve in the direction of removing the environment from the compitition to make it a more pure game and British sports revel in the element that the environment plays in the game. So golf is still played on grass in the wind where basektball is only ever played inside when it is a proffesional or high quality game.

Any thoughts?

Oh and I could never be bored watching either cricket or golf but do get bored stupid watching soccer, sorry Ian.

Brad Mercer
8th July 2007, 05:41 PM (17:41)
If Jon Long says it's his pastor preaching, he's in big trouble!!!

For me it has to be watching other people play video games!

Wilson

Roland's kids can spend hours gathered around the PC watching one of them play a video game.

Brad

Ryan Scott
8th July 2007, 05:52 PM (17:52)
I do prefer road tracks to ovals, maybe that's it. All of my favorite sports are more popular in Europe than the US. Just another reason to move there. If only I can convince my wife.

Roland Hearn
8th July 2007, 05:55 PM (17:55)
I do prefer road tracks to ovals, maybe that's it. All of my favorite sports are more popular in Europe than the US. Just another reason to move there. If only I can convince my wife.

Or you could move to Australia, all the advantages of Europe, plus great weather - I know a great Church plant that could use clear thinkers :).

Ryan Scott
8th July 2007, 11:09 PM (23:09)
I'm all for moving someplace totally different, but I think my wife will want to live closer to home for a few years first.

But real football's not so big down under either, is it? I thought you were still dominated by rugby and aussie rules. Well, and swimming, of course.

Brad Mercer
9th July 2007, 12:47 AM (00:47)
One of my favorite cartoons featured a frog and a toad discussing the differences between the two species, each arguing for the obvious superiority of his own. Finally, a bird walks past them and to settle the dispute they ask the bird: "Which would you rather be? A frog or a toad?" Without a moment's hesitation the bird responds: "I'd rather be dead."

That adequately expresses my opinion as to which is more boring, cricket or soccer or golf:p

Brad

Roland Hearn
9th July 2007, 05:38 AM (05:38)
I'm all for moving someplace totally different, but I think my wife will want to live closer to home for a few years first.

But real football's not so big down under either, is it? I thought you were still dominated by rugby and aussie rules. Well, and swimming, of course.

Huh, I thought Rugby League (definitely not Rugby although we did just beat South Africans at that too) and Aussie Rules was real football. Oh you mean that round ball game. Yes sadly it is gaining a foothold here too. It is now officially known as football in this country, we do have a national team playing in the Asian competition. Basically you can name a sport and Australia has produced a world champion in it. Swimming is of course one of the strong ones.

We have the best cricket team in the world and they are quite stunning,
the best Rugby League team around and that is a game full of running,
we have had the best Rugby team and they are on their way back,
For a little while there they played like a hack.
We have had golf champions, tennis champions, and greats who play squash,
We won so may medals at the Olympics we thought we might blush.
We produce surfers and swimmers
and fans that are grinners.
Just yesterday we had a one in the toure de France
although I doubt he could keep pace with the one they called Lance
We love our sport players us aussies do -
but what else could you expect from a land that's a zoo.

Sorry, sorry about that folks, apologies to Dr Seuss.

Mark Doble
9th July 2007, 02:02 PM (14:02)
Any of that WWF wrestling stuff... I gave it up like 15 yrs. ago. BUt the odd time I flip past it... quickly. Ya know, it hasn't changed in 15 yrs. either. It has actually, regressed.

Gord Evans
9th July 2007, 04:53 PM (16:53)
There is not one oval track in Australia of any note, the primary race course goes over a mountain and is near 3 and 1/2 mile long, even the only Indie race run outside the US is on a street circuit.

Yes ... and Toronto's Indy track closes down the southwest part of the city completely while the race is being run ... this past weekend, in fact.

Canada, of course Roland, is part of the British Commonwealth, though, so this fact (non-oval Indy track) should not be terribly surprising. Canada does, in fact, have a couple of oval tracks for car racing, but its non-oval tracks are far more interesting ... and far less boring to watch.

Gord Evans
9th July 2007, 05:01 PM (17:01)
Huh, I thought Rugby League (definitely not Rugby although we did just beat South Africans at that too) and Aussie Rules was real football. Oh you mean that round ball game. Yes sadly it is gaining a foothold here too. It is now officially known as football in this country, we do have a national team playing in the Asian competition. Basically you can name a sport and Australia has produced a world champion in it. Swimming is of course one of the strong ones.

We have the best cricket team in the world and they are quite stunning,
the best Rugby League team around and that is a game full of running,
we have had the best Rugby team and they are on their way back,
For a little while there they played like a hack.
We have had golf champions, tennis champions, and greats who play squash,
We won so may medals at the Olympics we thought we might blush.
We produce surfers and swimmers
and fans that are grinners.
Just yesterday we had a one in the toure de France
although I doubt he could keep pace with the one they called Lance
We love our sport players us aussies do -
but what else could you expect from a land that's a zoo.

Sorry, sorry about that folks, apologies to Dr Seuss.

Don't apologize, Roland ... I'm considering putting this to music! Good on ya, mate!

Too bad you didn't fit a digeree doo in there somewhere.

I must admit, though, I struggle some with the Tour de France rhyme with Mr. Armstrong's "Lance". Spelled similarly, but having distinctively different sounds (at least here in Canada) ... ah, the joys of the English language, and regional foibles and idiosyncracies.

:basic01

Roland Hearn
9th July 2007, 05:28 PM (17:28)
I must admit, though, I struggle some with the Tour de France rhyme with Mr. Armstrong's "Lance". Spelled similarly, but having distinctively different sounds (at least here in Canada) ... ah, the joys of the English language, and regional foibles and idiosyncracies.

:basic01
Gord, you have touched on a topic of endless merriment for Brad and I. We play this game in the car with our kids where one person thinks of a word and then declares what the word rhymes with. IF they are thinking of "can", they say it ryhmes with "fan". The rest of the people have to guess the word by announcing definitions of the word they think it might be. The first person has to guess the word they are defining and then tell them if it is right or not. It is a lot of fun. Jacob, Brad's son, refuses to play the game any more with us becuase words here just do not rhyme the same as words there. For me "France" and "Lance" sound exactly the same, and I can say both words with two different accents and they still sound the same. I'm trying to think of how your accent would shape that so they are different. There is just a lot of fun to be had with the idea of accents.

Roland Hearn
9th July 2007, 05:31 PM (17:31)
Gord, I probably should have said "outside of North America" when talking of the India race. You can slap me next time you see me, which would be the first time and a great way to meet face to face.

Gina Stevenson
9th July 2007, 08:29 PM (20:29)
We have the best cricket team in the world and they are quite stunning,
the best Rugby League team around and that is a game full of running,
we have had the best Rugby team and they are on their way back,
For a little while there they played like a hack.
We have had golf champions, tennis champions, and greats who play squash,
We won so may medals at the Olympics we thought we might blush.
We produce surfers and swimmers
and fans that are grinners.
Just yesterday we had a one in the toure de France
although I doubt he could keep pace with the one they called Lance
We love our sport players us aussies do -
but what else could you expect from a land that's a zoo.

Sorry, sorry about that folks, apologies to Dr Seuss.

Cool, Roland! We do understand Gord's "concern" ;) with France's "ah" vowel, with "Lance" better rhyming with "dance," but words are fun, aren't they? ;) :fav18

There is just a lot of fun to be had with the idea of accents.

Right on! :cool:

Roland Hearn
9th July 2007, 08:55 PM (20:55)
Cool, Roland! We do understand Gord's "concern" ;) with France's "ah" vowel, with "Lance" better rhyming with "dance," but words are fun, aren't they? ;) :fav18




Right on! :cool:

But France does rhyme with Dance.

Give me a rhyme for France that works for you so I can hear it in my head. I would just be interested.

Gina Stevenson
9th July 2007, 09:51 PM (21:51)
But France does rhyme with Dance.

Give me a rhyme for France that works for you so I can hear it in my head. I would just be interested.

Well, here in the US, "France" would rhyme with "dance." However, knowing that "over there" vowels are said differently, I was thinking of "France" being said with the same vowel sound as, say, "Francais" said correctly ... without its being given the Americanized vowel sound, as it might be when encountered here by one not "into" languages.

Entiendes, or just more confusing? Also, I must ask you, when you rhyme "France" & "dance," is it with this Americanized vowel, such as the sound of the "a" in "that," or when said as one might say "France" in that country, or more like "ahhh," than "that" ?

Roland Hearn
10th July 2007, 02:45 AM (02:45)
Well, here in the US, "France" would rhyme with "dance." However, knowing that "over there" vowels are said differently, I was thinking of "France" being said with the same vowel sound as, say, "Francais" said correctly ... without its being given the Americanized vowel sound, as it might be when encountered here by one not "into" languages.

Entiendes, or just more confusing? Also, I must ask you, when you rhyme "France" & "dance," is it with this Americanized vowel, such as the sound of the "a" in "that," or when said as one might say "France" in that country, or more like "ahhh," than "that" ?

France, dance and Lance all rhyme to me identically. The all have a short 'a'. Equally however France, dance and Lance can all rhyme with a, what in my head is an upper class English accent, Fraahnce, Daahnce, and Laahnce.

So France is Fran-ce as in the name, dance is dan-ce and and Lance is Lan (like land)-ce. I some how fear we are all no closer to understanding what we are hearing in our respective heads.

BTW what does "Entiendes" mean? That was confusing.

Roland Hearn
10th July 2007, 05:19 PM (17:19)
Gina and Gord,
I confess I'm an idiot. I was talking with Brad last night trying to work out the difference between "France" and "Lance" and we couldn't think of it. Finally I said the phrase "tour de France" out loud and recognized the way "France" is pronounced in "tour de France," which, presumably, is the way you pronounce it regularly is different from the way I routinely say "France," "dance" and "Lance." So when I was reading what I had written I was only hearing myself say "France" as I would normally say it - I now see your point.
You would say "France" routinely as "Fraahnce" but "Lance" with the "lan" as in "land". Is that right?

Ryan Scott
10th July 2007, 06:46 PM (18:46)
Wow, I totally thought you were joking with that argument the whole time.

Roland Hearn
11th July 2007, 02:46 AM (02:46)
Wow, I totally thought you were joking with that argument the whole time.

Accents are an amazing thing. Some day Ryan I hope we get to compare ours.

Hans Deventer
11th July 2007, 03:27 AM (03:27)
Finally I said the phrase "tour de France" out loud and recognized the way "France" is pronounced in "tour de France,"

And of course the only PROPER pronunciation is how the French themselves say it :basic05

Ryan Scott
11th July 2007, 09:34 AM (09:34)
Accents are an amazing thing. Some day Ryan I hope we get to compare ours.


If you have a spare room, I'll see if I can convince my wife to plan our next vacation down under (although next might be a relative term while we save up enough for the plan tickets).

Ryan Scott
11th July 2007, 09:35 AM (09:35)
Oh, and I don't have an accent. I talk normal.

Mike Wooldridge
11th July 2007, 09:49 AM (09:49)
Hope this isn't a "thread-killer" but the ABSOLUTELY MOST boring sport to watch has to be...drum roll...RIM SHOT...CURLING!!!

Ryan Scott
11th July 2007, 10:44 AM (10:44)
I love curling, but again, I'll watch virtually anything in which someone can win. I'll watch snail racing, so long as it's not a marathon.

Roland Hearn
12th July 2007, 06:03 AM (06:03)
Oh, and I don't have an accent. I talk normal.

I've read the dictionary, I'm pretty sure we are the last vestige of correct speaking English but I'll give you an "A" for confidence :basic03

Gina Stevenson
13th July 2007, 12:43 AM (00:43)
Gina and Gord,
I confess I'm an idiot. I was talking with Brad last night trying to work out the difference between "France" and "Lance" and we couldn't think of it. Finally I said the phrase "tour de France" out loud and recognized the way "France" is pronounced in "tour de France," which, presumably, is the way you pronounce it regularly is different from the way I routinely say "France," "dance" and "Lance." So when I was reading what I had written I was only hearing myself say "France" as I would normally say it - I now see your point.
You would say "France" routinely as "Fraahnce" but "Lance" with the "lan" as in "land". Is that right?

Actually, Roland, no, you're not "an idiot." Also, I was a bit surprised to hear that your "normal" way of saying France, dance, Lance were not as "France" is heard in "tour de France." Aussies having a different accent than here in the USA, I was just thinking how the "normal" way of saying it in Australia would be as in "tour de France." However, the way you explained it, it sounds as if your France, dance, Lance come out the same as in the USA.

Aren't accents & language fun? 'Love languages ... words ... accents of varying sorts. ;)

Gina Stevenson
13th July 2007, 12:53 AM (00:53)
Oh, and I don't have an accent. I talk normal.

Thanks for the best laugh in this thread, Ryan! What's "normal" anyway, eh? :basic05

Hope this isn't a "thread-killer" but the ABSOLUTELY MOST boring sport to watch has to be...drum roll...RIM SHOT...CURLING!!!

'Bet it wouldn't be boring to some housekeepers who might like to have some sweeping contest. [running, running, running .......]

I've read the dictionary, I'm pretty sure we are the last vestige of correct speaking English but I'll give you an "A" for confidence :basic03

Oh? How heady of you, Roland. ;) Still, when I think Australian accent, I hear "da Croc man," Bindy's daddy.

Mike Wooldridge
17th July 2007, 01:56 PM (13:56)
Thanks for the best laugh in this thread, Ryan! What's "normal" anyway, eh? :basic05



'Bet it wouldn't be boring to some housekeepers who might like to have some sweeping contest. [running, running, running .......]



Oh? How heady of you, Roland. ;) Still, when I think Australian accent, I hear "da Croc man," Bindy's daddy.

Crikey! (Hope that's not a bad word in "Australian!"

Roland Hearn
17th July 2007, 05:29 PM (17:29)
If you have a spare room, I'll see if I can convince my wife to plan our next vacation down under (although next might be a relative term while we save up enough for the plan tickets).

Ryan I missed this when you posted it.

We could very easily arrange a spare room. The Mercer family have found an affordable apartment within walking distance. So we could make that work very easily. Keep it simmering on the back burner - there is plenty to see on a trip to Aus.

Roland Hearn
17th July 2007, 05:33 PM (17:33)
Crikey! (Hope that's not a bad word in "Australian!"

Well practically no one would recognize it and it would never occur to anyone these days but I remember having it explained to me as a child that it the word is actually a distortion of the word "Christ". I grew up in the days of sharp lines between right and wrong and the appearance of evil so I cannot absolutely confirm that but I think it is right. Still as I said no one uses it that way so in light of the fact that words only mean what they communicate I am going to have to say, "no it isn't a bad word."