Just Try And Stump The Sports Expert

[Jim Poteet]

For Texas athletes, I'll take Roger Clemens.

You might look at the list on the previous post before you decide on Clemens.

[Jim Poteet]

I ran across this oped piece in today's USA Today. It says a great deal about the contrast in coaching between Joe Paterno and Bill Belichick. It worth the read.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/09/contrast-in-coa.html

[Jim Poteet]

Will Notre Dame be 0 for 4 after the game with Michigan State this weekend?

[Ryan Scott]

Michigan State likes to give away big games, so this one could be a 0-0 tie.

[Mike Sullivan]

Sports right , that is a long ways form guitars and picks . Should Washington St just call the game off this week aginst USC and save face ? Some say USC in a blow out , 63 to 0 Why play the game ?? TailGate News (http://tailgatenews.proboards78.com/) Says USC will win 63 to 0 I don't think I would show up it I were Washington State > Thank you ,

[Jim Poteet]

Question of the week -

Will Notre Dame lose their 5th game in a row this season? Saturday, the fighting Irish play at Purdue.

[Ryan Scott]

This one might actually be even, although Purdue is known for a good scoring offense, which has been the Irish's problem this season. I'll say 0-5.

[Bruce Carriker]

You might look at the list on the previous post before you decide on Clemens.

I'm not a sports novice, Jim.

I understood Chuck's question to be in the context of Earl Campbell as a UT product, thus my list of candidates was not as comprehensive as yours. I have reviewed your list and my new answer is:

Roger Clemens, the 2nd best pitcher in the history of baseball.

[Bruce Carriker]

Put me down for a Purdue win at home against the Irish.

[Jim Poteet]

I'm not a sports novice, Jim.

I understood Chuck's question to be in the context of Earl Campbell as a UT product, thus my list of candidates was not as comprehensive as yours. I have reviewed your list and my new answer is:

Roger Clemens, the 2nd best pitcher in the history of baseball.

Good answer. He is certainly one of the best pitchers of all time. It is so difficult to compare eras. If we only go back to the 40's, 50's and 60's, we find pitchers who started and finished 25/30 games per season. That was very difficult on their arm and stamina. Roger pitches in an era which lives by pitch counts and depends on a setup man and a closer to finish the game.

Who knows, if Roger had pitched in the era of Whitey Ford, Warren Spahn, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax and others, he might have been better than any of them. But he might also have been not as good. This is why it if fun to talk about the players of any sport of the past years. Thanks for your input.

[Ryan Scott]

Roger Clemens, the 2nd best pitcher in the history of baseball.


I'll accept #2, so long as Christy Matthewson is #1. I might put Warren Spahn ahead of him, but that's negotiable with me.

[Ryan Scott]

Here's an interesting one.

This week, with Steven Jackson injured, Brian Leonard will be the starting Tailback for the Rams this week.

When was the last time a team started a white player at RB in an NFL game?

[Jim Poteet]

Here's an interesting one.

This week, with Steven Jackson injured, Brian Leonard will be the starting Tailback for the Rams this week.

When was the last time a team started a white player at RB in an NFL game?

Research it and let us know.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Research it and let us know.
I am a very old Chicago (S.Side still love the Cards) Bear fan and I think it was Brian Forsey in 2003. He gained 134 in one game.

[Jim Poteet]

I am a very old Chicago (S.Side still love the Cards) Bear fan and I think it was Brian Forsey in 2003. He gained 134 in one game.

Where did you get that answer? From Mangino at the buffet table, I suppose.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Where did you get that answer? Fom Mangino at the buffet table, I suppose.
Yes he was on his third supreme.

[Jim Poteet]

Yes he was on his third supreme.

Are you holding a revival in Lawrence? I know that Mangino had a 24 hour pizza buffet just outside his office written into his last contract.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Are you holding a revival in Lawrence? I know that Mangino had a 24 hour pizza buffet just outside his office written into his contract.
Yep that's where I was. He uses pool cues to get the slices.

[Jim Poteet]

Yep that's where I was. He uses pool cues to get the slices.

Did Mangino give you a sideline pass for the next Kansas Game? Sideline passes to Kansas games give you all the pizza you can eat at the 24 hour pizza buffet before and after the game.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Did Mangino give you a sideline pass for the next Kansas Game? Sideline passes to Kansas games give you all the pizza you can eat at the 24 hour pizza buffet before and after the game.
Well as a matter of fact he did. His side line is large or do you mean the field. Not much difference you know.

[Jim Poteet]

Well as a matter of fact he did. His side line is large or do you mean the field. Not much difference you know.

I quit. I can't keep up with your humor or lack thereof.

[Jim Franklin]

I should have known it was Brock Forsey, ex BSU Bronco, who went to the same high school as my sons. He led the nation in touchdowns a few years back BIJ (Before Ian Johnson who made 3 tonight against Southern Miss.

[Bruce Carriker]

I'll accept #2, so long as Christy Matthewson is #1. I might put Warren Spahn ahead of him, but that's negotiable with me.

Actually, Walter Johnson is #1, and whoever we argue about at #2 isn't really close. It's The Big Train, and then everybody else gets in line to argue about #2.

Spahn is probably the greatest LHP in the history of the game. Had he not lost so many seasons to WWII he would almost surely have won 400 games.

[Jim Poteet]

Question of the week -

Will Notre Dame win against UCLA in Pasadena this Saturday?

[Ryan Scott]

Will Notre Dame win against UCLA in Pasadena this Saturday?

No, they will not.

[Chuck Millhuff]

:oI quit. I can't keep up with your humor or lack thereof.

Humor is the other side of brilliance. Now if you saw the KU football coach you would realize there are many sides. I am over weight so I have no need to make fun. What do you think of lap band therapy when you can't run or ride a bike?:o

[Jim Poteet]

:o

Humor is the other side of brilliance. Now if you saw the KU football coach you would realize there are many sides. I am over weight so I have no need to make fun. What do you think of lap band therapy when you can't run or ride a bike?:o

Sounds good to me. Will you need more than one lap band?

[Jim Poteet]

No, they will not.

I agree.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Sounds good to me. Will you need more than one lap band?

Do I have more than one lap? Of course not ! How were the bases connected to the ground in Ty Cobb's day?

[Jim Poteet]

Do I have more than one lap? Of course not ! How were the bases connected to the ground in Ty Cobb's day?

Mangino sat on them!

[Jim Poteet]

Calling Jim Franklin --

Where have you been?

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, if you see my post on Community Discussion you will find out that I have been suffering from a bit of tendonitis or "mouseitis." Tonight it has not been bothering me as much as it has for the last couple of weeks so I have posted more tonight. I am denied watching the playoffs because I do not have cable. It seems that a general view might conclude that there is pretty even parity among the 8 teams.

[Bruce Carriker]

Mangino sat on them!

:M):M):M):M):M):M):M):M)

[Chuck Millhuff]

[QUOTE=Jim Poteet;132439]Calling Jim Franklin --

Where have you been?[/QUO

JIM WHAT ARE THE BANDS THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS WEAR AROUND THEIR ARMS?

[Jim Poteet]

[QUOTE=Jim Poteet;132439]Calling Jim Franklin --

Where have you been?[/QUO

JIM WHAT ARE THE BANDS THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS WEAR AROUND THEIR ARMS?

I don't know, Chuck. We need someone to do a little research.

[Mark Bolerjack]

OSU blows out Nebraska! Is Ok State that good, or is Nebraska that bad, after falling to MO last week?

[Bruce Carriker]

I think Nebraska is probably that bad. Remember, they nearly got beat IN LINCOLN by that Midwest powerhouse, Ball State.

But...while we're talking college football...how 'bout them Kentucky Wildcats? Upset LSU in three overtimes!

[Jim Poteet]

I think Nebraska is probably that bad. Remember, they nearly got beat IN LINCOLN by that Midwest powerhouse, Ball State.

But...while we're talking college football...how 'bout them Kentucky Wildcats? Upset LSU in three overtimes!

I would be willing to guess that the Kentucky quarterback will win the Heisman trophy. He has great poise and an ability to lead a program that plays second fiddle to basketball.

[Ryan Scott]

I don't know. He's probably the best QB coming out in the draft this year, but the Heisman is rarely given to the best pro prospect. The kid at Texas Tech is going to put up some incredible numbers, as is Colt Brennan. None of the pre-season favorites are playing all that well right now. It could be a true crap-shoot at the end of the year.

[Bruce Carriker]

I would be willing to guess that the Kentucky quarterback will win the Heisman trophy. He has great poise and an ability to lead a program that plays second fiddle to basketball.

I sort of agree with Ryan on this. IF...big IF...Kentucky were to win the SEC and go to a BCS bowl, then I can see him getting a lot of support. Brennan will be hurt by the perception (a correct on, IMO) that he plays in a glorified Division 1-AA conference, and hasn't faced top-notch non-conference competition.

The "blabbering heads" were still drooling all over Danny McFadden, despite the fact that Arkansas pretty much stinks right now.

The guy who gets no press right now, and should, is Chase Daniels of Missouri. He might be the best college QB in the country...yes, even better than the guy at Texas Tech. BTW, Missouri plays Texas Tech this weekend. 50-45, anyone?

If Missouri finishes the regular season with only the Oklahoma loss, and he keeps throwing 3-4 TD per game, I think Daniels can make a run. The game at OU on Saturday is the first time since his freshman year that he has thrown more INT than TD in a game.

[Ryan Scott]

The problem with the Heisman is that voters can send in their ballots at any time after they're mailed out. Also, the deadline is generally the week before any of the conference championships games are played.

So, for example, if Mike Hart runs for 300 yards and 4 TD's in a Michigan win over Ohio State, he's got a good shot at picking up some votes, unless, of course, all the voters mailed their ballots in early. There's no way for them to change their minds.

It's a very strange process.

[Chuck Millhuff]

The problem with the Heisman is that voters can send in their ballots at any time after they're mailed out. Also, the deadline is generally the week before any of the conference championships games are played.

So, for example, if Mike Hart runs for 300 yards and 4 TD's in a Michigan win over Ohio State, he's got a good shot at picking up some votes, unless, of course, all the voters mailed their ballots in early. There's no way for them to change their minds.

It's a very strange process.

Balloting like this in not good. The only thing worse is the way we elect the generals. The most I ever got was 4. Is that right or what? The whole thing is run by a bunch of buckeyes.

[Jim Poteet]

The problem with the Heisman is that voters can send in their ballots at any time after they're mailed out. Also, the deadline is generally the week before any of the conference championships games are played.

So, for example, if Mike Hart runs for 300 yards and 4 TD's in a Michigan win over Ohio State, he's got a good shot at picking up some votes, unless, of course, all the voters mailed their ballots in early. There's no way for them to change their minds.

It's a very strange process.

Colt Brennan will not win the Heisman. I believe that both Chase Daniel of Misssouri & Graham Harrel of Texas Tech do have a chance to win. However, there is a misconception about both that it is the "system" that makes for the great statistics. I have watched the quarterback from Kentucky, Woodson, and he is the real deal. You probably know that he was the SEC Player of the Year as a junior last year.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Buckeye pie is what got Woody so sick in the head.

[Ryan Scott]

It's just silly that the "leading" contenders are still the guys whose schools spent a lot of money pumping them up in the pre-season.

To me Mike Hart is putting up the best campaign so far. Brian Brohm at Louisville, who was one of the pre-season favorites is still putting up incredible numbers, but his team losing is costing him publicity. In a sport with 11 guys on the field at any one time, I struggle to see how team performance has so much influence over individual awards. It's not Brohm's fault that his defense stinks.

If Matt Ryan from BC wins the award over Brohm, it will not be because of superior ability, but because his team won more games. That just doesn't seem right.

If I'm voting, I'd probably go Hart, Brohm, McFadden, in that order right now.

[Jim Poteet]

It's just silly that the "leading" contenders are still the guys whose schools spent a lot of money pumping them up in the pre-season.

To me Mike Hart is putting up the best campaign so far. Brian Brohm at Louisville, who was one of the pre-season favorites is still putting up incredible numbers, but his team losing is costing him publicity. In a sport with 11 guys on the field at any one time, I struggle to see how team performance has so much influence over individual awards. It's not Brohm's fault that his defense stinks.

If Matt Ryan from BC wins the award over Brohm, it will not be because of superior ability, but because his team won more games. That just doesn't seem right.

If I'm voting, I'd probably go Hart, Brohm, McFadden, in that order right now.

I'm glad that you're not voting!:basic03

[Ryan Scott]

I'm glad that you're not voting!


I guess it comes back to the old MVP debate. Is it the most valuable player or the best player? I always thought the Heisman was for the best player out there. Woodson is, without a doubt, the most valuable player on any team in the country. I also think he may well be the best NFL player of the lot. I just don't think he's the best college football player this year.

[Roland Hearn]

Is there an equivalent in American football to "The best and fairest" competitions they have here? At the end of each match the umpires award points to the players in the game on a 3,2,1 basis to the player that has performed with the most skill and greatest sportsmanship. Those votes are tallied at the end of the year and the winner is awarded the medal, which is a highly sort after prise.

[Ryan Scott]

That would make more sense, Roland, but then the sports writers wouldn't get to vote for anything and they'd feel left out.

[Jim Poteet]

I guess it comes back to the old MVP debate. Is it the most valuable player or the best player? I always thought the Heisman was for the best player out there. Woodson is, without a doubt, the most valuable player on any team in the country. I also think he may well be the best NFL player of the lot. I just don't think he's the best college football player this year.

I don't know if you watched Kentucky beat LSU, however he did some things on the field that not many college quarterbacks can do. Not only is he the most valuable player on his team and his conference, he is the best football player in the country. As you well know, trying to determine the Heisman Trophy winner is about hype. We'll never know who the best player is.

[Roland Hearn]

That would make more sense, Roland, but then the sports writers wouldn't get to vote for anything and they'd feel left out.

How very astute. :M)

[Jim Poteet]

Question of the week ---

How bad will USC beat Notre Dame this weekend?

[Ryan Scott]

I don't know, the QB that Notre Dame brought in at the end of the game last week looked halfway decent. USC may only win by 24 or so.

Why did it take Weis six and a half games to figure out who to play at QB? Even Jimmy Clausen on the sidelines looked like he was thinking "why have I been playing over this guy; he really knows what he's doing."

[Bruce Carriker]

The problem with the Heisman is that voters can send in their ballots at any time after they're mailed out.

I agree that this is a problem.

Also, the deadline is generally the week before any of the conference championships games are played.


This is not a problem, IMO. Conference championship games are POST-SEASON play and should not be considered for the BCS rankings OR the Heisman Trophy.

[Bruce Carriker]

USC 45, Notre Dame 10

[Chuck Millhuff]

Question of the week ---

How bad will USC beat Notre Dame this weekend?

There are all sorts of things that go on in that stadium. Even spiritural things. Then there are those little guys in the green suits. I say it's ND 17 USC 12

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck,

Did Mangino weigh-in for this weeks heavyweight fight?

[Jim Poteet]

There are all sorts of things that go on in that stadium. Even spiritural things. Then there are those little guys in the green suits. I say it's ND 17 USC 12

What kind of buckeyes have you been eating?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

Did Mangino weigh-in for this weeks heavyweight fight?

He broke the scale so they had to guess. 557 lbs.

[Chuck Millhuff]

What kind of buckeyes have you been eating?

The Ohio kind. The kind Woody ate before he slugged that poor little player.

[Jim Poteet]

He broke the scale so they had to guess. 557 lbs.

I'm sure that you didn't miss by more than a pound or two.

[Jim Poteet]

The Ohio kind. The kind Woody ate before he slugged that poor little player.

Those kind of buckeyes make you do some strange things!:basic03

[Chuck Millhuff]

Those kind of buckeyes make you do some strange things!:basic03

St. Woodrow Hayes should be in the ND stadium in stone. Would birds sit on his head?

[Jim Poteet]

St. Woodrow Hayes should be in the ND stadium in stone. Would birds sit on his head?

If his statue was in the Notre Dame stadium, the birds would do more than sit on his head!:fun04

[Jim Poteet]

There are all sorts of things that go on in that stadium. Even spiritural things. Then there are those little guys in the green suits. I say it's ND 17 USC 12

The little guys in green suits didn't help today. USC 38 - Notre Dqame 0

[Jim Poteet]

He broke the scale so they had to guess. 557 lbs.

Mangino did it again. Kansas 19 - Colorado 14. The Kansas players were going to carry Mangino off the field on their shoulders....But there weren't enough players on the traveling squad.

[Ryan Scott]

Mangino did it again. Kansas 19 - Colorado 14. The Kansas players were going to carry Mangino off the field on their shoulders....But there weren't enough players on the traveling squad.


That's a scary image. I don't care how much weight you can life, that's not a smart idea.

[Bruce Carriker]

The little guys in green suits didn't help today. USC 38 - Notre Dqame 0

So 45-10 wasn't a bad guess. :q)

[Jim Poteet]

So 45-10 wasn't a bad guess. :q)

Not bad!

[Jim Poteet]

Notre Dame didn't get beat today. Of course they didn't play.

[Jim Franklin]

Has there ever been a season when so many ranked teams were beaten by some so called "junior high' teams as this year? I seems like it has been an epidemic this year.

[Jim Poteet]

Has there ever been a season when so many ranked teams were beaten by some so called "junior high' teams as this year? I seems like it has been an epidemic this year.

I think what is happening is the dreaded "parity." As I watch and analyze games, I don't see many outstanding teams. Almost every team has a "chink" in their armor. There is a definite weakness in each team and there are no super teams. Probably the best team is Ohio State and they do not look very impressive. They just win.

[Bruce Carriker]

I think that scholarship limits have something to do with the "parity".

I also believe that as more and more kids declare for the NFL draft before their eligibility is expired, you're seeing kids...particularly at the 'skill' positions...going to programs where they can play right away, rather that sit on the bench at USC or Texas until their junior years.

[Jim Franklin]

Grab the money from the pros while they can perchance they might have a career ending injury in their later years of college ball. Some of those kids have a chance to take care of their families with those pro salaries that they would not be able to do if their pro careers never get started and pay for a lot of tuition they have foregone.

[Jim Poteet]

I think that scholarship limits have something to do with the "parity".

I also believe that as more and more kids declare for the NFL draft before their eligibility is expired, you're seeing kids...particularly at the 'skill' positions...going to programs where they can play right away, rather that sit on the bench at USC or Texas until their junior years.

Maybe scholarship limitations have something to do with "parity." However major college football has been at 85 scholarships for 20+ years.

My gut feeling is that all the upsets has more to do with the type of offense being played today with the spread formations and West Coast approach. I compare the passing game in football to shooting 3-pointers in basketball. If a team gets hot, they can beat anyone on any given night. Also, the offenses are very sophisticated and the the defenses have not caught up yet with their schemes.

Just some food for thought.

[Jim Franklin]

Coach, what is the idea behind the term "West Coast" approach? I remember when you were coaching at BNC that you often called out "Western" to the Redskins basketball team. Is there some kind of similarity in approaches in football and basketball?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Has there ever been a season when so many ranked teams were beaten by some so called "junior high' teams as this year? I seems like it has been an epidemic this year.

Jim who was or is the oldest and the youngest basketball coach to coach a D1 school?

[Jim Poteet]

Coach, what is the idea behind the term "West Coast" approach? I remember when you were coaching at BNC that you often called out "Western" to the Redskins basketball team. Is there some kind of similarity in approaches in football and basketball?

Actually, Jim you do not remember correctly. You have your directions mixed up. We used to call out "Eastern." This was an offense that I picked up watching Eastern New Mexico University win the the 1968 NAIA National Championship. Their coach, Harry Miller, liked to use all 5 players in all 5 positions on the floor which created all kinds of mis-matches. I liked what I saw and coaches just steal plays and formations from other coaches. (and it is all legal and above board) We had great success with "Eastern" and I hope that jogs your memory.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim who was or is the oldest and the youngest basketball coach to coach a D1 school?

Here are the answers. Butch Van Breda Kolf, who was Bill Bradley's coach at Princeton, coached Hofstra University when he was 71 years old. Bobby Knight became the coach at Army when he was 24 years old.

Chuck, don't you have any harder questions?

[Bruce Carriker]

Here are the answers. Butch Van Breda Kolf, who was Bill Bradley's coach at Princeton, coached Hofstra University when he was 71 years old. Bobby Knight became the coach at Army when he was 24 years old.

Chuck, don't you have any harder questions?

I believe Dave Whitney was coaching at Alcorn State until either 2003 or 2004...that would have made him at least 72, maybe 73.

[Jim Poteet]

I believe Dave Whitney was coaching at Alcorn State until either 2003 or 2004...that would have made him at least 72, maybe 73.

And you may be right that Dave Whitney has now become the oldest Division I coach ever.

[Jim Poteet]

Question of the Week!

Will Notre Dame beat Navy this Saturday?

[Mike Schutz]

Question of the Week!

Will Notre Dame beat Navy this Saturday?

This was one of the games ND was expected to win as pundits looked at their schedule before the season began.

ND at home against a team that allowed University of Delaware to put up 59 points against them last week.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a victory under Touchdown Jesus this week - although I wouldn't cancel my Saturday afternoon plans to stay at home and watch it. (Going to an ENC fundraising event at one of my favorite restaurants - Shady Maple Smorgasbord in Blue Ball, PA!)

[Dennis M. Scott]

Question of the Week!

Will Notre Dame beat Navy this Saturday?


Hey! You're the expert - we'll ask the questions!

Could you give us your prediction and rationale?

[Bruce Carriker]

(Going to an ENC fundraising event at one of my favorite restaurants - Shady Maple Smorgasbord in Blue Ball, PA!)

How far is Blue Ball from Intercourse?

[Ryan Scott]

How far is Blue Ball from Intercourse?

Not close enough.

[Mike Schutz]

How far is Blue Ball from Intercourse?

Okay, children.

About 10 miles. Blue Ball is just east of New Holland, and Intercourse is just south west of New Holland, towards Lancaster. Such is life among the Amish in Lancaster County, PA

Now, Ryan, you may continue with your Junior High antics.

[Mark Bolerjack]

Jim, Will the Sonics come to Oklahoma City?

[Jim Poteet]

Jim, Will the Sonics come to Oklahoma City?

Good question. I hope so for the simple reason that I would like to watch Kevin Durant play on a consistent basis. If he remains injury free and continues to improve, he is the next great superstar in the NBA. He just turned 19 years old on September 29? and is averaging 22.5 points per game after the first two games. Kevin is a wonderful Christian young man and the sky is the limit for him.

Look for an announcement early next week that Clay Bennet and his ownership group who all live here in Oklahoma have filed with the NBA commissioner's office a relocation document. The document will ask for the Sonics be granted a move to OKC for the 2008-09 season.

There is an ongoing court case in Seattle and the City has asked that the Sonics be forced to play in Key Arena through the end of their lease which ends in 2010. I would guess that outcome will be that the OKC ownership group would be liable to pay the city 50 million or so dollars to leave early. There seems to be no interest in Seattle to build a new arena and I'm not sure that cities should be held hostage to build facilities for ownership groups in the major league sports. If the Sonics come to OKC, it will be only a matter of five years or so before the Ford Center is deemed to old and we will be on the hook for a new arena for the OKC Sonics.

I am somewhat jaded by professional sports. I don't even watch the NFL. I could not tell you who won the Super Bowl last year or the year before. The NFL is a sport that does not take care of its former players and the stories are legendary of their treatment by the NFL players association. Some drastic changes need to happen before I have any interest in watching the games.

Pro basketball is all about entertainment and the superstar and is not very much about teamwork and all that goes into that aspect. I don't watch very much NBA, however I like the way the SA Spurs play and will watch when I get a chance. The Hornets just spent two years here in OKC because of Hurricane Katrina. I saw only 1 game out 81 over the time period. I just don't care that much for the NBA game.

I used to be a huge major league baseball fan. But the steriod and free agency era has ruined all that for me. I do love Wrigley Field, Dodger Stadium and Fenway Park. I am just not to impressed with the likes of Barry Bonds, Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa and company.

That is a long answer to a simple question. The Sonics will move from Seattle, but it may only be to another city nearby in the Seattle metro area. However, my guess is they will end up in OKC or San Jose.

[Bruce Carriker]

Okay, children.

About 10 miles. Blue Ball is just east of New Holland, and Intercourse is just south west of New Holland, towards Lancaster. Such is life among the Amish in Lancaster County, PA

Now, Ryan, you may continue with your Junior High antics.


I was asking a serious question. I KNOW where Intercourse is. I don't know where Blue Ball is, but I knew they were over around Amish country. I was in Intercourse last summer.

The reason I asked was because I'm moving to PA and I was thinking that if you (Mike) aren't clear up on the New York state line or up on Lake Erie north of Pittsburgh, maybe we could meet someday.

[Mike Schutz]

I was asking a serious question. I KNOW where Intercourse is. I don't know where Blue Ball is, but I knew they were over around Amish country. I was in Intercourse last summer.

The reason I asked was because I'm moving to PA and I was thinking that if you (Mike) aren't clear up on the New York state line or up on Lake Erie north of Pittsburgh, maybe we could meet someday.

Bruce, I thought your question WAS serious.

I am in southern Chester County, near where the states of PA, MD and DE come together. We are 45 minutes from Philadelphia, 45 from Lancaster, and about 25 from Wilmington, DE. We drive every day to Lancaster, as my son attends school there.
I would love to get together, over food of course. Because, after all, I am an Nazarene!

[Mark Bolerjack]

Jim,
Thanks a lot for your involvement in this forum. It has added a lot to NazNet. Your knowledge of sports, especially college sports, is incredible. Maybe we'll get to see you at the NazNet meeting next week.

[Ryan Scott]

Now, Ryan, you may continue with your Junior High antics.

Sorry, I really debated the appropriateness of that comment, but the comedic potential won out in the end; that was too good a set-up to ignore.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim,
Thanks a lot for your involvement in this forum. It has added a lot to NazNet. Your knowledge of sports, especially college sports, is incredible. Maybe we'll get to see you at the NazNet meeting next week.

I will be there.

[Jim Poteet]

Navy did it to Notre Dame. Will Charlie Weiss be back next year as the coach. I say no.

[Dennis M. Scott]

Navy did it to Notre Dame. Will Charlie Weiss be back next year as the coach. I say no.


Can't think of anyone who would be in favor of his return: certainly not Charlie, not players, administration, staff, alumni. Wait! Maybe opposing coaches?

Why do we think that spinoffs are going to work? Admittedly, there may have been some who've been able to make the jump, but it's a little presumptous to think it'll always work.

[Ryan Scott]

Navy did it to Notre Dame. Will Charlie Weiss be back next year as the coach. I say no.


Didn't I read somewhere that he has an absolutely huge buyout? Would ND want to spend that much, when they don't really have a shot of landing a top tier coach as replacement?

I'm not sure that going through a string of coaches is going to make up for letting Willingham get away.

[Bruce Carriker]

Navy did it to Notre Dame. Will Charlie Weiss be back next year as the coach. I say no.

He has a HUGE contract through 2015. I'm not sure even the Notre Dame alumni want to spend that much money. And keep in mind...the juniors and seniors he's coaching are not his recruits.

[Jim Poteet]

Didn't I read somewhere that he has an absolutely huge buyout? Would ND want to spend that much, when they don't really have a shot of landing a top tier coach as replacement?

I'm not sure that going through a string of coaches is going to make up for letting Willingham get away.

There is a plenty of money from Notre Dame alumni. The buyout would not be a problem. My foster son's football coach is a grad of Notre Dame. He is also on the alumni board. He shared with me tonight that there is little patience with Charlie and he doesn't fit the image of the type of coach they want at the school.

Charlie Weiss, Bill Callahan and Dennis Franchione are all in extremely hot water.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach Jim:
When was the shape of the backboard changed and why?

[Jim Poteet]

Coach Jim:
When was the shape of the backboard changed and why?

Dr. Chuck,

There was no backboard when Dr. Naismith invented the game.

By the way, I see that your prayer is, " DEAR GOD MAY I BE AT LEAST WHAT I PREACH. " Your coach Mangino's prayer is, "Dear God, may I be at least what I eat."

[Bruce Carriker]

Dr. Chuck,

There was no backboard when Dr. Naismith invented the game.

By the way, I see that your prayer is, " DEAR GOD MAY I BE AT LEAST WHAT I PREACH. " Your coach Mangino's prayer is, "Dear God, may I be at least what I eat."

:M):M):M):M)

[Jim Poteet]

It time for the question of the week.

The Notre Dame "Charlie Weiss" Irish play the Air Force Academy in South Bend this weekend. Does the Academy add to the Irish woes with a good beating?

[Bruce Carriker]

Air Force wins; Charlie Weis does not get fired.

[Ryan Scott]

I don't know. Is Air Force better than Navy? They haven't been the last few years.

[Jim Poteet]

Finally, when tosu played a real team, the streak comes to an end. Look for Michigan to make two tosu losses in a row next week.

[Bruce Carriker]

I find it tough to get excited about an LSU-Oregon national title game.

[Ryan Scott]

I find it tough to get excited about an LSU-Oregon national title game.


I think those are the two best teams out there, so I'm excited they might actually play in the final game. Any year we don't have a controversy is a good one. Of course, two wins by Missouri and we'll be right back in trouble.

[Jim Poteet]

I don't know. Is Air Force better than Navy? They haven't been the last few years.

It looks like Air Force was quite a bit better than Navy!

[Ryan Scott]

It looks like Air Force was quite a bit better than Navy!


Yeah, I guess Navy's down a bit this year. I like to see Air Force do well; they're sort of my hometown team. Well, they play in the same place my parents live. That's close enough.

[Bruce Carriker]

Yeah, I guess Navy's down a bit this year. I like to see Air Force do well; they're sort of my hometown team. Well, they play in the same place my parents live. That's close enough.

Navy just accepted a bowl bid, and Air Force will get one, too.

Coach Jim...when was the last time all three military academies went bowling in the same season?

[Jim Poteet]

Navy just accepted a bowl bid, and Air Force will get one, too.

Coach Jim...when was the last time all three military academies went bowling in the same season?

I would think that it might have been in the 60's. However, Army did not go to a bowl game until 1984. I am going to guess that it has never happened that all three service academies went to a bowl game in the same season.

[Bruce Carriker]

I would think that it might have been in the 60's. However, Army did not go to a bowl game until 1984. I am going to guess that it has never happened that all three service academies went to a bowl game in the same season.

I wasn't trying to stump you. I really have no idea and thought you might know.

[Jim Poteet]

I wasn't trying to stump you. I really have no idea and thought you might know.

I checked later and found that all three had never been to a bowl in the same year. It is hard to imagine that Army never went to bowl games in their heyday of the 40's and 50's.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim where did the term hey day come from as it relates to sports? You use it a lot. We have a football coach that eats it a lot. Pizza flavor hay.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach what is the smallest university to have ever won the NCAA basketball tournament? El Paso U or what ever it's called?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach have you ever heard of the Tee Pee play in Basketball and did you ever run it?

[Jim Poteet]

Coach have you ever heard of the Tee Pee play in Basketball and did you ever run it?

That buckeye soup is getting to you. Did you and Mangino have some tonight?

[Jim Poteet]

Coach what is the smallest university to have ever won the NCAA basketball tournament? El Paso U or what ever it's called?

Chuck,

It would have been either Holy Cross, the 1947 champion, which had less than 2500 students or LaSalle, the 1954 champion, which also had less than 2500 students. Holy Cross was led by the great Bob Cousy and LaSalle was led by the great Tom Gola.

Where are your hard questions?

[Bruce Carriker]

I checked later and found that all three had never been to a bowl in the same year. It is hard to imagine that Army never went to bowl games in their heyday of the 40's and 50's.

A lot of teams did not accept bowl invitations in the 40's and 50's. It wasn't till the late 1960's...or maybe even early 1970's...that Notre Dame accepted bowl bids.

[Bruce Carriker]

Did some checking.

Notre Dame played in its one and only Rose Bowl in 1925; then decided not to accept post-season invitations. That decision held for 45 years, till they accepted an invitation to play in the 1970 Cotton Bowl against Texas.

As for the academies, I couldn't find any specific info on Army and why they didn't go bowling. Apparently there was no prohibition on the academies participating.

Air Force has been to 17 bowl games, beginning with the 1958 Cotton Bowl, a 0-0 tie with Texas Christian.

Navy has been to 13 bowl games, and is the only service academy to play in the four "REAL" bowl games - 1924 Rose Bowl, 1955 Sugar Bowl, 1958 Cotton Bowl, 1961 Orange Bowl. Those were their first four bowl appearances - thirty-one years between the first and the second.

Army didn't go to a bowl game until 1984.

Can anybody besides Coach Jim name an academy head coach who won a Super Bowl?

[Jim Poteet]

Did some checking.

Notre Dame played in its one and only Rose Bowl in 1925; then decided not to accept post-season invitations. That decision held for 45 years, till they accepted an invitation to play in the 1970 Cotton Bowl against Texas.

As for the academies, I couldn't find any specific info on Army and why they didn't go bowling. Apparently there was no prohibition on the academies participating.

Air Force has been to 17 bowl games, beginning with the 1958 Cotton Bowl, a 0-0 tie with Texas Christian.

Navy has been to 13 bowl games, and is the only service academy to play in the four "REAL" bowl games - 1924 Rose Bowl, 1955 Sugar Bowl, 1958 Cotton Bowl, 1961 Orange Bowl. Those were their first four bowl appearances - thirty-one years between the first and the second.

Army didn't go to a bowl game until 1984.

Can anybody besides Coach Jim name an academy head coach who won a Super Bowl?

I think I know the answer, but I won't answer now.

Army has been to only 4 bowl games beginning with 1984.

[Bruce Carriker]

Schools that did not accept bowl bids:

Notre Dame, 1925-1970

Big Ten teams, other than the conference champion (Rose Bowl) were not allowed to accept bowl bids until 1975.

Not that it matters now - but there was a time when Princeton, Yale, and Harvard refused to play in bowl games.

Some northern and western schools refused bowl bids in the South during the era of legal segregation...the most notable being the undefeated University of San Francisco team that included three future NFL Hall of Famers (Ollie Matson, Gino Marchetti, and Bob St. Clair).

[Mark Bolerjack]

I think those are the two best teams out there, so I'm excited they might actually play in the final game. Any year we don't have a controversy is a good one. Of course, two wins by Missouri and we'll be right back in trouble.

I find it tough to get excited about an LSU-Oregon national title game.


Not to worry! If the game continues in the second half like the first, Oregon is a dead duck. pun intended! :)

[Bruce Carriker]

Can anybody besides Coach Jim name an academy head coach who won a Super Bowl?

Since this has been up for a few days and no one but Jim has even hinted that they know the answer, or hazarded a guess....the answer is Bill Parcells. The Tuna was head coach for one season at the Air Force Academy.

[Jim Poteet]

Can anybody besides Coach Jim name an academy head coach who won a Super Bowl?

Since this has been up for a few days and no one but Jim has even hinted that they know the answer, or hazarded a guess....the answer is Bill Parcells. The Tuna was head coach for one season at the Air Force Academy.

I figured that someone would come up with the answer. I was pretty sure that The Tuna was the one.

Now for the question of the week......

Will Notre Dame beat Duke tomorrow? The game is in South Bend.

[Jim Poteet]

I figured that someone would come up with the answer. I was pretty sure that The Tuna was the one.

Now for the question of the week......

Will Notre Dame beat Duke tomorrow? The game is in South Bend.

Notre Dame has now won 2 games!

[Jim Franklin]

With the Patriots so far ahead in the 3rd quarter why aren't the back up people given a chance to play for they need the experience? Seems like the spy is trying to pile on the points.

[Jim Poteet]

With the Patriots so far ahead in the 3rd quarter why aren't the back up people given a chance to play for they need the experience? Seems like the spy is trying to pile on the points.

Whose the spy?

[Ryan Scott]

Perhaps the tide is turning. John Madden was defending Belichick last night saying no matter the score, he'd keep his starters in until the 4th quarter.

[Dennis M. Scott]

Perhaps the tide is turning. John Madden was defending Belichick last night saying no matter the score, he'd keep his starters in until the 4th quarter.

Madden was big on Brady last night, too. I am getting a little tired of all these married women saying how beautiful he is. That's Brady, not Madden.

As for the spy, I guess his winning now must also be luck, since he obviously has lost his greatest ability - to cheat with video cameras. Good thing they caught that - it has saved the integrity of professional football.

[Jim Poteet]

Calling Chuck Millhuff ----It is time for a new question.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Madden was big on Brady last night, too. I am getting a little tired of all these married women saying how beautiful he is. That's Brady, not Madden.


As for the spy, I guess his winning now must also be luck, since he obviously has lost his greatest ability - to cheat with video cameras. Good thing they caught that - it has saved the integrity of professional football.


Jim how would say the best Nazarene men's team stand up to the best D 1 NCAA woman's team in basketball? Say MNU who just last week beat the D 1 NAIA Champs in Okla, City Vs. woman's Tenn team.

[Jim Poteet]

:basic05Jim how would say the best Nazarene men's team stand up to the best D 1 NCAA woman's team in basketball? Say MNU who just last week beat the D 1 NAIA Champs in Okla, City Vs. woman's Tenn team.

Are you serious, Chuck? MidAmerica Nazarene's men would beat Tennessee easily. Size and quickness would be a total mismatch. Kiburz & Hawkins at 6-9 and 6-7 could score anytime they wanted. Hepker at point guard would run circles around any of the Tennessee's ladies.

Most NCAA Division I women's teams practice each day against male practice squads. These are intramural players that are in the 5-10 to 6-3 range, but are there because they are quicker and jump higher.

I guess you ask this question because you think that Tennessee would rout MNU. Again I say, it wouldn't even be close. MNU by 30 to 40 or more.

Please understand that women's basketball is a wonderful game. It is fun to watch, but a 6-2 lady is a post player in the women's game. A 6-2 guy plays guard. The quickness and leaping factors are no contest.

Try me again when you have a tough question!:basic05

[Bruce Carriker]

I actually prefer the WNBA to the NBA. In the NBA there is little team basketball until the playoffs. Mostly its just an extended skills exhibition. Don't get me wrong...those guys are highly skilled. But I'd rather watch a game.

In the WNBA teams play together, passing and defense are emphasized, traveling violations are enforced. It's just a much more entertaining game. Fortunately for the NBA, and unfortunately for the WNBA, there aren't many who agree with me.

[Ryan Scott]

I actually prefer the WNBA to the NBA.


So you're the one.


I prefer team basketball too, which is why I follow Division III.

[Chuck Millhuff]

:basic05

Are you serious, Chuck? MidAmerica Nazarene's men would beat Tennessee easily. Size and quickness would be a total mismatch. Kiburz & Hawkins at 6-9 and 6-7 could score anytime they wanted. Hepker at point guard would run circles around any of the Tennessee's ladies.

Most NCAA Division I women's teams practice each day against male practice squads. These are intramural players that are in the 5-10 to 6-3 range, but are there because they are quicker and jump higher.

I guess you ask this question because you think that Tennessee would rout MNU. Again I say, it wouldn't even be close. MNU by 30 to 40 or more.

Please understand that women's basketball is a wonderful game. It is fun to watch, but a 6-2 lady is a post player in the women's game. A 6-2 guy plays guard. The quickness and leaping factors are no contest.

Try me again when you have a tough question!:basic05

I think on this one you really are crazy. Pat Summit would scare the pants of these boys against these women. You are showing some serious problems with respect to women in general. GET OVER IT ! Rocky (MNU coach) would take one look at her with his shirt tail flying and head for the dressing room.

[Jim Poteet]

I think on this one you really are crazy. Pat Summit would scare the pants of these boys against these women. You are showing some serious problems with respect to women in general. GET OVER IT ! Rocky (MNU coach) would take one look at her with his shirt tail flying and head for the dressing room.

That would be after his team walloped the Tennessee Volunteers real good.

[Jim Poteet]

I think on this one you really are crazy. Pat Summit would scare the pants of these boys against these women. You are showing some serious problems with respect to women in general. GET OVER IT ! Rocky (MNU coach) would take one look at her with his shirt tail flying and head for the dressing room.

I notice that you don't have anything to add to this MNU men vs. Tennessee women debate.:bannana

[Chuck Millhuff]

I am so facinated with the dancing banana I can't think what to say. There are some girls that play that could take these guys out with one blow. Have you ever heard of a game like this played Jim?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim Bond should have stayed and played in the NBA if he would have been an impact player. This general stuff would came anyway and he would have missed his missionary problems. Jim what do you think ?
:PTL)

[Jim Poteet]

:fav04I am so facinated with the dancing banana I can't think what to say. There are some girls that play that could take these guys out with one blow. Have you ever heard of a game like this played Jim?

You mean a real game between a men's and women's team?

I have never heard of one being played.:M)

[Jim Poteet]

Jim Bond should have stayed and played in the NBA if he would have been an impact player. This general stuff would came anyway and he would have missed his missionary problems. Jim what do you think ?
:PTL)

There is no question that Jim Bond could have been an impact player in the NBA and because he was drafted by the Minneapolis Lakers (LA Lakers), he would have played with Elgin Baylor and Jerry West. Jim was certainly as good or better player than the guys that played the other forward for the Lakers like Happy Hairston, Rudy LaRusso and Jim MacMillan. He was one of the best rebounders I have ever seen. He had an uncanny ability to know where the ball was going to on each miss both offensively and defensively. The problem with the Lakers was that they never had an impact post man during most of the 60's. It was only after they traded for Wilt that they had a chance to win an NBA championship after the move to LA.

[Jim Franklin]

My dad was not allowed by his father to accept the invitation by the Cincinnatti Red Stockings in 1901 to play major league ball at the age of 16. My brothers and I have often speculated just how our lives might have been different if he had been allowed to pursue that opportunity. Life is a matter of choices and decisions, some we are satisfied with and others we regret. That is just part of being free moral human beings.

[Jim Poteet]

I can't believe that this sports forum has died. Surely there is something going on we could chat about. Early season opinion - the 5 best teams in college basketball are -

North Carolina
Kansas
Texas
Memphis
Georgetown

What do you think?

[Mark Bolerjack]

I am very surprised that even though the Heisman was revealed today, there has been no discussion on this. I was disappointed that they went with the "powerhouse" school instead of someone else.

[Jim Poteet]

I am very surprised that even though the Heisman was revealed today, there has been no discussion on this. I was disappointed that they went with the "powerhouse" school instead of someone else.

Tebow was deserving, but I preferred McFadden. Tebow is a wonderful Christian young man who grew up on the mission field, I believe, it was the Philippines. He was home schooled, but played on the local high school team. He is an outstanding college player, but probably will not have much chance to make it as a quarterback in the pros.

[Ryan Scott]

I know they just lost to Texas, but I think UCLA will be the team to beat in March. THey return a strong squad and add Kevin Love, who is an incredible talent and far more team-oriented than the "stars" of the freshman class across the country.

[Jim Poteet]

I know they just lost to Texas, but I think UCLA will be the team to beat in March. THey return a strong squad and add Kevin Love, who is an incredible talent and far more team-oriented than the "stars" of the freshman class across the country.

UCLA is a very good team. However, they are missing one key ingredient, a true point guard. That is the key to a team come tournament time. I don't know if you watched the game between Texas and UCLA (at Pauley Pavilion), but D.J. Augustin totally dominated. Most experts are saying that he is the best point guard in the country. If you can control the tempo of the game at the point guard position, you always have a good chance to win. The Big 12 has at least 2 of the top ten teams in the country. Kansas and Texas can play with anyone.

[Jim Franklin]

Who was the best basketball player and who was the best entertainer of the Harlem Globetrotters?

[Jim Franklin]

Should Satchel Paige have tried to play with the Globetrotters?

[Jim Poteet]

Who was the best basketball player and who was the best entertainer of the Harlem Globetrotters?

Marques Haynes was a great, great basketball player. He was a graduate of Langston University, an all black college in Oklahoma. He was a superstar who, because of segragation, did not get a chance to play in the early days of pro basketball. The best entertainer was either Goose Tatum or Meadowlark Lemon.

[Jim Poteet]

Should Satchel Paige have tried to play with the Globetrotters?

Was Satchel Paige a basketball player?

[Jim Franklin]

I just remember him as being so athletic that like Bob Gibson who played for the Globetrotters before he turned to baseball that "Old Satch" might have done quite well and would not have been held out of cross cultural competition as long as he was in baseball. I did see Bob Gibson play with the "Trotters" in the The Dalles, OR in about Feb. 1956 while I was a high school senior.

[Jim Franklin]

I remember a womens traveling basketball team who played mens rules basketball against any mens' team in any community anywhere. I seem to remember them being called the "Texas Redheads." Do you remember them, Coach?

[Jim Poteet]

I remember a womens traveling basketball team who played mens rules basketball against any mens' team in any community anywhere. I seem to remember them being called the "Texas Redheads." Do you remember them, Coach?

I remember them. They were called the Arkansas Redheads, I believe.

[Jim Franklin]

That Redhead team beat a "get up" team featuring Bob Engstrom, basketball coach at Chelan, WA High School and former starting guard for the UW Huskies, Pete Mullins who played on Australia's Olympic team and other nearby BB coaches. Did those ladies put the hustle to those guys.

For my high school Junior English term paper I wrote on "The Development of Basketball."

[Jim Poteet]

That Redhead team beat a "get up" team featuring Bob Engstrom, basketball coach at Chelan, WA High School and former starting guard for the UW Huskies, Pete Mullins who played on Australia's Olympic team and other nearby BB coaches. Did those ladies put the hustle to those guys.

For my high school Junior English term paper I wrote on "The Development of Basketball."

Wha was your premise on the development of the game?

[Jim Franklin]

I just reviewed the varying stages that basketball went through up to the time I wrote it in 1954 from YMCAs, to high schools, colleges and pros along with the traveling teams. It was handwritten because I did not have access to a typewriter then. For the younger ones and fun I'll claim that writing by kerosene lamp is no picnic.

[Jim Poteet]

I just reviewed the varying stages that basketball went through up to the time I wrote it in 1954 from YMCAs, to high schools, colleges and pros along with the traveling teams. It was handwritten because I did not have access to a typewriter then. For the younger ones and fun I'll claim that writing by kerosene lamp is no picnic.

Basketball has an interesting history. The game was invented by a Canadian theologian named James Naismith. He was a student at the International YMCA training school in Springfield Massachusetts when he invented the game. The YMCA's taught the game throughout the world. Just think, A Christian invented the game and a Christian organization taught the game all over the world. Part of basketball's unique appeal is that it is a simple game that only needs a ball and a rim. It can be played by one person who can shoot the ball and see how many baskets he/she can make in a row from different spots on the court. You can play 1-on-1, 1-on-2 (cutthroat), 2-on-2, 3-on-3, 4-on-4, or 5-on-5.

The game has total world appeal and is the 2nd most popular game in the world next to soccer (football). It was the first sport used in organized sports evangelism, when Madam Chiang Kia-Shek, the wife of the President of Free China, asked a group of Christian basketball players from Taylor University to play the game and share their faith at half-time. This happend in 1952. Today there are over 150 organizations using sports evangelism to share the Gospel all over the world.

I have been doing a lot of thinking, research, and praying lately that leads me and several others to the conclusion God is leading us and that maybe we could use the game of basketball in a sports evangelism venue on a permanent basis to impact a sports crazed culture somewhere in the world. Maybe what we have in mind could take place in the next year. Hopefully, I will be able to share more later.

[Gina Stevenson]

........ The best entertainer was either Goose Tatum or Meadowlark Lemon.

Decades after seeing them in person in Grand Rapids, MI, he came to church out in Phoenix (living in Scottsdale at the time, I believe) with his basketball, using various 'techniques' as sermon illustrations, too. Still "entertaining." ;)

After having seen this, think the below-mentioned evangelism usage isn't a bad idea at all, Jim.



The game has total world appeal and is the 2nd most popular game in the world next to soccer (football). It was the first sport used in organized sports evangelism, when Madam Chiang Kia-Shek, the wife of the President of Free China, asked a group of Christian basketball players from Taylor University to play the game and share their faith at half-time. This happend in 1952. Today there are over 150 organizations using sports evangelism to share the Gospel all over the world.

I have been doing a lot of thinking, research, and praying lately that leads me and several others to the conclusion God is leading us and that maybe we could use the game of basketball in a sports evangelism venue on a permanent basis to impact a sports crazed culture somewhere in the world. Maybe what we have in mind could take place in the next year. Hopefully, I will be able to share more later.

[Mike Wooldridge]

Is a Canadian football field measured in yards or meters?

[Jim Franklin]

Coach, for a short time the dunk was made illegal. Do you recall what the reasoning was behind that rule change and why it was reinstated?

[Jim Poteet]

Is a Canadian football field measured in yards or meters?

Yards.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach, for a short time the dunk was made illegal. Do you recall what the reasoning was behind that rule change and why it was reinstated?

It was the Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar) rule. When he was a freshman at UCLA, every coach in America was afraid he would dunk everytime he touched the ball. So the dunk was outlawed in college and highschool basketball. Lew still dominated and won 3 straight NCAA national championships at UCLA. Outlawing the dunk made Lew a better player. The dunk was outlawed in 1967, I believe, and was reinstated in about 1974.

Some of today's players would never score if the dunk was outlawed. However, it would eventually make players better because they would have work on shooting and offensive moves.

[Bruce Carriker]

What player was responsible for the lane being widened?

[Bruce Carriker]

Some of today's players would never score if the dunk was outlawed. However, it would eventually make players better because they would have work on shooting and offensive moves.

Actually calling traveling violations would help too, as it would be tougher to dunk without the three step running start.

And just ONCE, I'd like to see charging called when contact occurs in the air. Once a player has established defensive position, he owns that position from the floor to the ceiling...there is no requirement that he be on the floor for charging to be called. But EVERY TIME contact occurs in the air, the officials will call the foul against the defensive player. Of course, in the NBA so few players play defense anyway that doesn't matter much. But I'd still like to see it called correctly ONE TIME.

[Jim Poteet]

What player was responsible for the lane being widened?

Wilt Chamberlain. He probably caused more changes to the game than any other player. We went from a 6' wide key to a 12' wide key in the pro, college and high school game. Now the pro key is even wider.

[Chuck Millhuff]

It was the Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar) rule. When he was a freshman at UCLA, every coach in America was afraid he would dunk everytime he touched the ball. So the dunk was outlawed in college and highschool basketball. Lew still dominated and won 3 straight NCAA national championships at UCLA. Outlawing the dunk made Lew a better player. The dunk was outlawed in 1967, I believe, and was reinstated in about 1974.

Some of today's players would never score if the dunk was outlawed. However, it would eventually make players better because they would have work on shooting and offensive moves.

It is my thinking that the game has become way to fast and that there are certain guards that can way out run anyone. It is not to be a game of track and was never intended to be. It is time that at least a three foot high barrier be placed across the floor at the center line to slow the game down and make it a shooters game as it was intended to be.

[Jim Poteet]

It is my thinking that the game has become way to fast and that there are certain guards that can way out run anyone. It is not to be a game of track and was never intended to be. It is time that at least a three foot high barrier be placed across the floor at the center line to slow the game down and make it a shooters game as it was intended to be.

And what are we going to call the game - baskethurdles!:eek:

[Jim Franklin]

The fast break is one of the more exciting facets of the game. I, too, would like to see more strategy on offense and defense. Was it Mr. Hank Iba who required several passes before a shot was taken before the rule was instituted of the shot clock?

[Jim Poteet]

The fast break is one of the more exciting facets of the game. I, too, would like to see more strategy on offense and defense. Was it Coach Hank Iba who required several passes before a shot was taken before the rule was instituted of the shot clock?

By the way, No one was ever allowed to call Mr. Iba Coach. He required that everyone call him Mr. Iba. Yes, he required several passes before a shot. However, Dean Smith of North Carolina probably had more impact on the institution of the shot clock because of his four corners delay game. There were a couple of games in the ACC where the score was 5-2 and 7-4 at halftime because of the four corners. People felt that type of game is boring and thus we have the shot clock. Fans don't understand how difficult it is to "stall" with the ball. It takes great discipline and great ball handling skills. I remember the last time I coached for SNU at Oklahoma Baptist University in 1979. They had beaten us the previous week 108-72. We had to face them in the 1st round of the conference tournament and we felt the only way to win was to "hold" the ball. The halftime score was 18-12 our favor. We ended up winning 36-35 and it was a great game. But the skill and discipline required to do that for a whole game is missing in today's game.

[Jim Franklin]

When was the third referee rule instituted in baketball?

[Chuck Millhuff]

And what are we going to call the game - baskethurdles!:eek:


No I would call it BASKET - HURDLE. There would then be a jump by most of the two teams after every basket or in this case after every shot good or bad. This would honor the history of the game as well. The jump ball at the start would start with the jumpers on both sides of the hurdle. If you touch the hurdle you loose the ball while in play after the start jump ball. If you hit the hurdle with the ball it's a free through for the other team but you get the ball back. The hurdle would be only two feet tall and covered with the stuff they wrap around the goal posts. If a coach wants to talk to a ref he or she would have to walk on the hurdle to where the ref is if they are in mid court. This would stop a lot of this screaming in the refs ear at the scorer's table. If a coach falls off the hurdle it's a technical. If you make a shot from behind the hurdle it's ten points. It will be called the ten - point hurdle line as well. Hey I've given this a lot of thought and prayer. God said " I like it." Do you need any more? I saw all of this in a dream many nights in a row. It is a beautiful thing. They laughed at Neesmith (sp?) at the Y as well.

[Jim Poteet]

No I would call it BASKET - HURDLE. There would then be a jump by most of the two teams after every basket or in this case after every shot good or bad. This would honor the history of the game as well. The jump ball at the start would start with the jumpers on both sides of the hurdle. If you touch the hurdle you loose the ball while in play after the start jump ball. If you hit the hurdle with the ball it's a free through for the other team but you get the ball back. The hurdle would be only two feet tall and covered with the stuff they wrap around the goal posts. If a coach wants to talk to a ref he or she would have to walk on the hurdle to where the ref is if they are in mid court. This would stop a lot of this screaming in the refs ear at the scorer's table. If a coach falls off the hurdle it's a technical. If you make a shot from behind the hurdle it's ten points. It will be called the ten - point hurdle line as well. Hey I've given this a lot of thought and prayer. God said " I like it." Do you need any more? I saw all of this in a dream many nights in a row. It is a beautiful thing. They laughed at Neesmith (sp?) at the Y as well.

Chuck, What was in your eggnog last night?:laughing

[Chuck Millhuff]

A Little Ice And Half Eggnog And Half Coke Is Very Good. Nog On The Rocks Is A Fundamentalist's Libation.

[Jim Poteet]

A Little Ice And Half Eggnog And Half Coke Is Very Good. Nog On The Rocks Is A Fundamentalist's Libation.

uum good!

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck,

It is time for another question. Will Mangino tilt the field at the Orange Bowl?

[Jim Franklin]

Hey, Coach, when was the third referee in basketball initiated.

[Jim Poteet]

Hey, Coach, when was the third referee in basketball initiated.

It happened in the NBA first. I believe it was the 1988 or 89 season. College basketball added the 3rd referee in the early 1990's. I don't remember the exact year.

[Greg Farra]

By the way, No one was ever allowed to call Mr. Iba Coach. He required that everyone call him Mr. Iba. Yes, he required several passes before a shot. However, Dean Smith of North Carolina probably had more impact on the institution of the shot clock because of his four corners delay game. There were a couple of games in the ACC where the score was 5-2 and 7-4 at halftime because of the four corners. People felt that type of game is boring and thus we have the shot clock. Fans don't understand how difficult it is to "stall" with the ball. It takes great discipline and great ball handling skills. I remember the last time I coached for SNU at Oklahoma Baptist University in 1979. They had beaten us the previous week 108-72. We had to face them in the 1st round of the conference tournament and we felt the only way to win was to "hold" the ball. The halftime score was 18-12 our favor. We ended up winning 36-35 and it was a great game. But the skill and discipline required to do that for a whole game is missing in today's game.

Of course, you can still stall in high school. In the little time I coached, if we had a lead in the last few minutes we'd try to stall and shoot only if we had a lay up. It was amazing in practice that when we'd practice a stall, there were guys who would shoot if they were open. They didn't play much.

[Jim Poteet]

Of course, you can still stall in high school. In the little time I coached, if we had a lead in the last few minutes we'd try to stall and shoot only if we had a lay up. It was amazing in practice that when we'd practice a stall, there were guys who would shoot if they were open. They didn't play much.

It certainly takes discipline to hold (stall) the ball.

[Jim Poteet]

Which colleges have won the most games in their football history?

[Jeff Bovee]

Which colleges have won the most games in their football history?

Michigan, Yale, Notre Dame, Texas, Nebraska, Ohio State.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach in a foot race the length of the floor (line to line) and back who would the three fastest basketball players be in order ever.

[Mike Schutz]

Coach in a foot race the length of the floor (line to line) and back who would the three fastest basketball players be in order ever.

Chuck, If you don't mind me expressing an opinion, I would have to believe the great NC State star David Thompson would be one of the leaders in such a race.

[Mike Schutz]

In the late 60s to 1970 there were three college guards, all in college at the same time, all with last names beginning with "M," who captured the imagination of basketball fans. One was from a small, eastern school, one from a large university in the south, and one from a midwestern university.

Can anyone name them?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck, If you don't mind me expressing an opinion, I would have to believe the great NC State star David Thompson would be one of the leaders in such a race.

David Thompson would be in the top ten in my humble opinion. I was a speed demon myself in Chicago highschool so I have a great interest in and opinion about this. Now when I got near the basket that was a different story as to the flight of the ball. :laughing

[Jim Poteet]

In the late 60s to 1970 there were three college guards, all in college at the same time, all with last names beginning with "M," who captured the imagination of basketball fans. One was from a small, eastern school, one from a large university in the south, and one from a midwestern university.

Can anyone name them?

Calvin Murphy-Niagara
Pete Maravich-LSU
Dean Meminger-Marquette

[Jim Poteet]

David Thompson would be in the top ten in my humble opinion. I was a speed demon myself in Chicago highschool so I have a great interest in and opinion about this. Now when I got near the basket that was a different story as to the flight of the ball. :laughing

Yeah-They timed you with an hourglass or an 8-day clock.

[Mike Schutz]

Calvin Murphy-Niagara
Pete Maravich-LSU
Dean Meminger-Marquette

Coach, Rather than "Dean the Dream," I was thinking of the other "M:"
Rick Mount from Purdue.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach, Rather than "Dean the Dream," I was thinking of the other "M:"
Rick Mount from Purdue.

Rick Mount-What a great shooter, however he was never a good pro.

[Jim Poteet]

Who wins tonight - the OSU or LSU?

[Jim Poteet]

Now it is on to the college basketball season. Who is the all time winningest coach in the history of men's college basketball?

[Ryan Scott]

Percentage or total wins?

[Jim Poteet]

Percentage or total wins?

total wins

[Ryan Scott]

I want to say Bob Knight, but this seems like a trick question.

[Jim Poteet]

I want to say Bob Knight, but this seems like a trick question.

It is not a trick question. Harry Statham, in his 42nd year as basketball coach at McKendree College (IL), is college basketball's coach with the most wins. As of today (1/8/2008), Harry has won 947 games and will probably continue to coach and reach 1000 wins. His team is a fixture in the NAIA Division I National Tournament in Kansas City. Bobby Knight is #2 with 899 wins and will probably finish his career with somewhere in the 925 to 950 range.

[Mike McVey]

Should Christians Watch Sports On The Lord's Day? Is This Keeping It Holy?

I have been waiting for three years for you to ask this question, Chuck. I came across a book where a girl from Illinois asked, "Why can't we (Christians) read the funnies on Sunday?"

The answer was this:

"We live in a day of frightening Sabbath desecration. God's Word is plain on the subject of the Sabbath and its activities (Exodus 20:8-11). Through this commandment deals primarily with Sabbath employment, the entire overtone of these verses tells us that the Sabbath is to be a carefully observed day. It meant much to the Jewish people but it should mean even more to Christians. It represents to us a weekly celebration of the resurrection of Christ.

"The historic Church held this day sacred for God's business. The trend today is to make Sunday similar to every other day, filled with the newspaper, television, sports, and restaurants. This grieves the Holy Spirit.

"During my boyhood the funnies were put away until Monday. Sunday was different: special clothes, special meals at home, special activities. Sure it is easy to drag the six-day week into the Sabbath and pass it off with, 'The times have changed,' or, 'Sunday is the only time I can relax with the NFL, other television programs, and the Sunday newspaper.' I fear that Sunday night programs of evangelism are often sapped dry from afternoons of careless Sabbath keeping. I have lived both ways. When I started to make Sunday different, my Sunday night services became different.

"Are funnies wrong? Of course not. But on Sunday they are out of place. What should we do then on Sunday? Go home from church, eat a hearty meal, have a family meeting, take a walk and enjoy the out-of-doors, read your Bible and have a good book, relax and rest. Soon it will be five o'clock and time for a cold supper, and back to church, rested and ready for the evangelistic service.

"I never did my schoolwork on the Sabbath, all through college and graduate school. I believe God honored me because of it. Sunday jobs are absolutely out except for doctors, nurses, and other 'ox in the ditch' jobs or professions. Organized athletics are also out of bounds. Any parent who allows this kind of Sabbath desecration is making a sacrifice that someday will demand a tremendous price.

"Make Sundays different and Sundays will make you a different person."

Chuck Millhuff
You Asked For It
pgs 43-44
1970

I also like the picture of you on the front cover. :):p:laughing

[Ryan Scott]

It is not a trick question. Harry Statham, in his 42nd year as basketball coach at McKendree College (IL), is college basketball's coach with the most wins. As of today (1/8/2008), Harry has won 947 games and will probably continue to coach and reach 1000 wins. His team is a fixture in the NAIA Division I National Tournament in Kansas City. Bobby Knight is #2 with 899 wins and will probably finish his career with somewhere in the 925 to 950 range.


I figured there might be someone outside of D1, but I also figured that with the rediculous number of games that D1 teams play these days, Knight would have made up the difference. Nice to know he's not really #1. Maybe he'll coach until he's 100?

So Statham has averaged more than 22 wins per year for 42 years? That's quite impressive.





And, of course, you have to consider NAIA "real" college basketball.

[Chuck Millhuff]

I have been waiting for three years for you to ask this question, Chuck. I came across a book where a girl from Illinois asked, "Why can't we (Christians) read the funnies on Sunday?"

The answer was this:

"We live in a day of frightening Sabbath desecration. God's Word is plain on the subject of the Sabbath and its activities (Exodus 20:8-11). Through this commandment deals primarily with Sabbath employment, the entire overtone of these verses tells us that the Sabbath is to be a carefully observed day. It meant much to the Jewish people but it should mean even more to Christians. It represents to us a weekly celebration of the resurrection of Christ.

"The historic Church held this day sacred for God's business. The trend today is to make Sunday similar to every other day, filled with the newspaper, television, sports, and restaurants. This grieves the Holy Spirit.

"During my boyhood the funnies were put away until Monday. Sunday was different: special clothes, special meals at home, special activities. Sure it is easy to drag the six-day week into the Sabbath and pass it off with, 'The times have changed,' or, 'Sunday is the only time I can relax with the NFL, other television programs, and the Sunday newspaper.' I fear that Sunday night programs of evangelism are often sapped dry from afternoons of careless Sabbath keeping. I have lived both ways. When I started to make Sunday different, my Sunday night services became different.

"Are funnies wrong? Of course not. But on Sunday they are out of place. What should we do then on Sunday? Go home from church, eat a hearty meal, have a family meeting, take a walk and enjoy the out-of-doors, read your Bible and have a good book, relax and rest. Soon it will be five o'clock and time for a cold supper, and back to church, rested and ready for the evangelistic service.

"I never did my schoolwork on the Sabbath, all through college and graduate school. I believe God honored me because of it. Sunday jobs are absolutely out except for doctors, nurses, and other 'ox in the ditch' jobs or professions. Organized athletics are also out of bounds. Any parent who allows this kind of Sabbath desecration is making a sacrifice that someday will demand a tremendous price.

"Make Sundays different and Sundays will make you a different person."

Chuck Millhuff
You Asked For It
pgs 43-44
1970

I also like the picture of you on the front cover. :):p:laughing

WHEN YOU PUT THINGS IN PRINT THAY HAVE A WAY OF NOT CHANGING. GOD HAS REALLY HELPED ME DURING THE NFL SEASON. HE GAVE US THE CHIEFS.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach what size shoes does Shack wear and what are the size of Mangeno's shorts?

[Hans Deventer]

WHEN YOU PUT THINGS IN PRINT THAY HAVE A WAY OF NOT CHANGING. GOD HAS REALLY HELPED ME DURING THE NFL SEASON. HE GAVE US THE CHIEFS.

Chuck, I do believe that changing is a strength rather than a weakness.

[Mike McVey]

Chuck, I do believe that changing is a strength rather than a weakness.

I think he was making a joke about how the Chiefs have been playing this past year (4-12) that he has had no reason to start watching the NFL on Sundays.

On the other hand, my Cowboys have given me plenty reason to watch on Sundays, but with the lack of cable and living in PA, not many Cowboy games available this year for me. :basic04

Oh well.

[Mike McVey]

Coach what size shoes does Shack wear and what are the size of Mangeno's shorts?

I think Shaq wears 27 1/4 Wide if I remember right. Or was that Will Perdue... Mangino wears 8x doesn't he?

[Jim Poteet]

I figured there might be someone outside of D1, but I also figured that with the rediculous number of games that D1 teams play these days, Knight would have made up the difference. Nice to know he's not really #1. Maybe he'll coach until he's 100?

So Statham has averaged more than 22 wins per year for 42 years? That's quite impressive.





And, of course, you have to consider NAIA "real" college basketball.

NAIA basketball is "real" college basketball. Have you ever heard of Sam Jones, Willis Reed, Luke Jackson, Earl Monroe, Walt Frazier, Jack Sikma, Travis Grant, Elmore Smith, Zelmo Beatty, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Dick Barnett, John Barnhill, Elgin Baylor, ML Carr, John Drew, World B. Free, Bob Hopkins, Bob Kauffman, Bob Love, Rick Mahorn, Vern Mikkleson, Terry Porter, Robert Reed, Purvis Short, Larry Smith, Bennie Swain, Al Tucker, Foots Walker, and Slick Watts. All of these players played in the NAIA and all played enough years to receive NBA pensions. Don't talk to me about "real" basketball until you spend some more time watching and understanding. I know that you love NCAA Division III basketball. That is real basketball too. Don't get caught up in the hype of the "big time.":basic03

And I forgot about George "the Iceman" Gervin.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach what size shoes does Shack wear and what are the size of Mangeno's shorts?

Mangino's shorts are just a few sizes bigger than Shaq's shoes!:laughing

[Chuck Millhuff]

NAIA basketball is "real" college basketball. Have you ever heard of Sam Jones, Willis Reed, Luke Jackson, Earl Monroe, Walt Frazier, Jack Sikma, Travis Grant, Elmore Smith, Zelmo Beatty, Dennis Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Dick Barnett, John Barnhill, Elgin Baylor, ML Carr, John Drew, World B. Free, Bob Hopkins, Bob Kauffman, Bob Love, Rick Mahorn, Vern Mikkleson, Terry Porter, Robert Reed, Purvis Short, Larry Smith, Bennie Swain, Al Tucker, Foots Walker, and Slick Watts. All of these players played in the NAIA and all played enough years to receive NBA pensions. Don't talk to me about "real" basketball until you spend some more time watching and understanding. I know that you love NCAA Division III basketball. That is real basketball too. Don't get caught up in the hype of the "big time.":basic03

Hey I play real basketball in my driveway. Coach how about a little horse next time you are in town with Ryan? Don't laugh I have shots very few have ever seen.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach who first called the Ice Man the Ice Man and why?

[Jim Poteet]

Hey I play real basketball in my driveway. Coach how about a little horse next time you are in town with Ryan? Don't laugh I have shots very few have ever seen.

First of all, you need a "real" basket. Rather than a game of "Horse", could we play "justification by faith." That way you and Ryan will be in the game a little longer.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach who first called the Ice Man the Ice Man and why?

George Gervin was known as the "Iceman." When he was a young player in the old ABA with the Virginia Squires, he played with a "cool" demeanor. Fatty Taylor, a guard with with the New Jersey Nets first called Gervin "the Iceman" because he was so laid back when he played.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach which Nazarene coach recruited Kansas coach Bill Self to a Nazarene college.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach which Nazarene coach recruited Kansas coach Bill Self to a Nazarene college.

Has Bill Self ever been in a church?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Has Bill Self ever been in a church?

Most certainly. This is no Bobby Knight. KU is a very spiritual university.

[Jim Poteet]

Most certainly. This is no Bobby Knight.

I don't think Coach Self knows some of the words that Bobby Knight knows!

[Chuck Millhuff]

I don't think Coach Self knows some of the words that Bobby Knight knows!

Bobby majored in ancient expresions of the mid evil era.:basic05

[Jim Poteet]

Most certainly. This is no Bobby Knight. KU is a very spiritual university.

Who are you trying to kid.

[Jim Poteet]

Bob Knight wins #900. He has the Aggies number.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Bob Knight wins #900. He has the Aggies number.

Good for Bobby Knight. 900 wins is no small feat. Did he through a chair to celebrate?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Coach: Is Longer Longer of OU the son of Shorter Shorter of
Africa?

[Jim Poteet]

Coach: Is Longer Longer of OU the son of Shorter Shorter of
Africa?

Longer Longer is his real name. I have heard that his mother's name was Shorter Shorter and his Father's name was Taller Taller.:basic03

[Ryan Scott]

Isn't it spelled with an 'a' like Longar Longar?

[Jim Poteet]

Isn't it spelled with an 'a' like Longar Longar?

I think you're probably right. I just followed Millhuff's spelling.

[Jim Poteet]

Can the Giants defeat the Patriots in the Superbowl?

[Ryan Scott]

Can the Giants defeat the Patriots in the Superbowl?


Yes. Will they? I don't think so.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Can the Giants defeat the Patriots in the Superbowl?


Jim do you really care or have you just discovered pro sports?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Yes. Will they? I don't think so.

Ryan is that ape on your mother's side or your dad's?

[Jim Poteet]

Jim do you really care or have you just discovered pro sports?

I really don't care about pro football. I couldn't tell you who won last year's Superbowl.

[Chuck Millhuff]

I really don't care about pro football. I couldn't tell you who won last year's Superbowl.

Jim why would a man who's life is consumed by sports not want to see the best of the best. As a child growing up in Chicago we had the All Star Game in Soldier's Field against the best college football players in the land and the last pro champions. The college boys never won. Can you remember when they ever won? If they did you will remember. You are almost bigoted at the point of pro athletics. Do you know when Michael Jordan shot his first and last pro shots? Well I doubt you will since pro sports are so uninteresting as these "doped up drug dripping guys play." (Embellished paraphrase of your words to me.) For heaven's sake don't watch the super bowl. You will be bored to tears and mad as well. Go to the Bethany High School gym and shoot free throws. Jim get a life! Look up the word eclectic. I would be happy to give you some therapy over the phone. You can get over this!

[Jim Poteet]

Jim why would a man who's life is consumed by sports not want to see the best of the best. As a child growing up in Chicago we had the All Star Game in Soldier's Field against the best college football players in the land and the last pro champions. The college boys never won. Can you remember when they ever won? If they did you will remember. You are almost bigoted at the point of p