Just Try And Stump The Sports Expert

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim Poteet the coach for many years knows about everything about sports. I ave tried him many times. Post a question and see if you can stump him. He will not use Google to answer. He lives in Bethany and his wife is the head the English Dept at SNU and is a lot smarter than him. Jim who was the greatest Olimpic diver the US ever fielded?

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck,

Male or female Diver?

Male - Dr. Sammy Lee- gold in 48 and 52 Olympics or Greg Louganis 2 golds in 84 and 88 Olympics.


Female - Dr. Pat McCormick - 2 golds in 52 and 56 Olympics.

You need tougher questions!

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim Poteet knows more about sports in general than any human alive. Ask him any question about sports and he will not Google to answer but only use his remarkable sports brain. He lives in Bethany, Okla. He was a long time Basketball coach and once almost got the job at Texas. He is very much from Texas. He is burnt orange all the way through. His wife Peggy is the chair of the English/Humanities at SNU. She is very smart as well but not as arrogant. He has a sports doctorate from OSU. He says you can’t spell pout with pout the letters OU.

Here are my questions.
1. How many basketball coaches has Kansas had
and who were they and over how many years?
2. Was a peach basket ever really used?

[Jim Franklin]

Thanks, Chuck. Jim and I have been friends since we were on the BNC faculty together in the early 70s. We had some great years together there. I assisted him by keeping the scorebook or taking tickets or however he needed assistance. He often had his players assigned to my classes because he knew I was a sports nut. Perhaps it was because I used sports related illustrations in my teaching. I once had two of his African-American players speak to my Cultural Geography class about the differences between one growing up in Nashville and the other in LA. Very informative. There were no African=American students at BNC until Jim came onto the faculty.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim some very interesting insights. I would have loved to have had some sports nuts as profs.

[Ian Gentles]

Jim Poteet knows more about sports in general than any human alive. Ask him any question about sports and he will not Google to answer but only use his remarkable sports brain. He lives in Bethany, Okla. He was a long time Basketball coach and once almost got the job at Texas. He is very much from Texas. He is burnt orange all the way through. His wife Peggy is the chair of the English/Humanities at SNU. She is very smart as well but not as arrogant. He has a sports doctorate from OSU. He says you can’t spell pout with pout the letters OU.

Here are my questions.
1. How many basketball coaches has Kansas had
and who were they and over how many years?
2. Was a peach basket ever really used?

LOL look foreward to answers.

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck,

What easy questions!

Question 1-Who were the Basketball coaches at Kansas University?

There have been 8 coaches at KU. The program began at KU in 1898-99.

1. James Naismith (Invented the game of basketball is the only coach
at KU to finish his career with a losing record)
2. Phog Allen
3. W.O. Hamilton
4. Dick Harp
5. Ted Owens
6. Larry Brown
7. Roy Williams
8. Bill Self

Question 2-Was a peach basket ever used in the game of Basketball?

Yes, The first game at the Springfield YMCA Training School used peach baskets nailed to the rail of the running track around the gym. There was no hole in the bottom of the peach baskets so a ladder was used to retrieve the ball after made baskets.

Now you know the rest of the story.

Jim

[Ian Gentles]

Chuck,

What easy questions!

Question 1-Who were the Basketball coaches at Kansas University?

There have been 8 coaches at KU. The program began at KU in 1898-99.

1. James Naismith (Invented the game of basketball is the only coach
at KU to finish his career with a losing record)
2. Phog Allen
3. W.O. Hamilton
4. Dick Harp
5. Ted Owens
6. Larry Brown
7. Roy Williams
8. Bill Self

Question 2-Was a peach basket ever used in the game of Basketball?

Yes, The first game at the Springfield YMCA Training School used peach baskets nailed to the rail of the running track around the gym. There was no hole in the bottom of the peach baskets so a ladder was used to retrieve the ball after made baskets.

Now you know the rest of the story.

Jim

Wow fantastic stuff!

[Roland Hearn]

Jim Poteet knows more about sports in general than any human alive.

OK, cool I'll give you a real easy one. No internet right?

What was the name of the Indian run scoring machine that had scored more runs than any other in International cricket until past by the then Australian Captain? He was the first to pass 10,000 runs in international cricket.

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck should have said American sports. I have no idea about cricket.

You win!

Jim

[Roland Hearn]

Chuck should have said American sports. I have no idea about cricket.

You win!

Jim

:basic05

Sorry Jim, I just could not resist. I'll bet Ian Gentles knows the answer.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim some very interesting insights. I would have loved to have had some sports nuts as profs.How many speeds did Lance Armstong's bike have in his first victory in the Tour deFrance. Stumped for sure.

[Jim Poteet]

How many speeds did Lance Armstong's bike have in his first victory in the Tour deFrance. Stumped for sure.

Chuck,

This question is too easy. First of all, Lance used at least 3 different bikes. (One for time trials, One for racing on mostly flat surfaces and one for climbing)
Lance used 2 cogs on the front and 10 cogs on the back for a 20 gear possibility. However, amateur cyclers like myself may use 3 cogs on the front and 10 on the back for a 30 possibility.

Jim

[Chuck Millhuff]

What is the size of a socer goal net?

[Jim Poteet]

What is the size of a socer goal net?

Chuck,

I guess you mean "soccer" goal. You must think I know nothing about the game they call "football" in the rest of the world.

The goal size is 8 feet high by 24 feet wide.

Jim

[Chuck Millhuff]

Im Impressed. Need To Go To Bed. Really Tough Stuff For Tomorrow. How Much Preasure Is In A Basketball, Football, Soccer Ball? Get The Answers In The Morning.

[Jim Poteet]

Im Impressed. Need To Go To Bed. Really Tough Stuff For Tomorrow. How Much Preasure Is In A Basketball, Football, Soccer Ball? Get The Answers In The Morning.

Chuck,

Too easy again.

Basketball - 7 to 9 lbs. psi

Football - 12.5 to 13.5 lbs psi

Soccer (football) 6 to 8 lbs bar or 7.9 lbs psi

Try again.

Jim

[Chuck Millhuff]

Okay big boy when did the NFL require helmet face masks?

[Jim Poteet]

Okay big boy when did the NFL require helmet face masks?

Chuck,

The NFL did not require wearing helmets until 1943. The facemask rule was not implemented until the early 1990's. It was grandfathered in so that veterans who did not want to wear a facemask did not have to abide by the rule.

Keep trying!

Jim

[Kevin Rector]

Ok, I'll give it a go and start you off with a fairly easy one for an expert (probably hard for a regular joe - I had to look up the latter 3/4ths of the 4 part question).

Who holds the NHL single season record for most goals by a rookie, how many goals did he have that season, what team did he play for, and which season was it.

[Jim Franklin]

Here are a couple of sports questions which I answered correctly on a pregame radio program and won free tickets to our Boise Hawks games.

Who was the Brooklyn Dodger manager before Chuck Dressen?

When and where was the largest attendance at a World Series game?

[Jim Poteet]

Ok, I'll give it a go and start you off with a fairly easy one for an expert (probably hard for a regular joe - I had to look up the latter 3/4ths of the 4 part question).

Who holds the NHL single season record for most goals by a rookie, how many goals did he have that season, what team did he play for, and which season was it.

Hey, that is tough. I think it is a guy by the name of salenne or selenne with over 70 goals. I don't know who he played for nor the year.

Good question. I don't know very much about hockey.

Jim

[Kevin Rector]

Hey, that is tough. I think it is a guy by the name of salenne or selenne with over 70 goals. I don't know who he played for nor the year.

Good question. I don't know very much about hockey.

Jim

Well I'm impressed with what you did know. His name is Teemu Selanne and he is a Finnish ice hockey player. He holds the record for most goals in a season by a rookie at 76 which was set with the Winnipeg Jets during the 1992-93 season.

[Jim Poteet]

Here are a couple of sports questions which I answered correctly on a pregame radio program and won free tickets to our Boise Hawks games.

Who was the Brooklyn Dodger manager before Chuck Dressen?

When and where was the largest attendance at a World Series game?

Jim,

Thanks for the questions. They are good ones (much better than Millhuff's)

(1) Burt Shotton

(2) Los Angeles, 1959 World Series against the Chicago White Sox - 92,000+

Here is a question for you.

What future TV star was a reserve player for the 1951 Brooklyn Dodger's who lost the pennant on the "shot heard round the world" by the New York Giant's Bobby Thompson.

Jim

[Jim Franklin]

Burt Shotton is correct and the largest attendance was over 100,000 when the Dodgers were playing their home games in the Colesium. Shotton, like Connie Mack, did not wear a baseball uniform. He actually was a lawyer who knew baseball kind of like Howard Cosell. Jim, you remember the humorous incident you told me about Cosell's confrontation with Abe Lemons at Madison Square Garden.

I believe you may be referring to Chuck Conners who became "The Rifleman" who had previously played for the Cubs. Andy Pafko and Wayne Terwilleger had been traded by the Cubs to the Dodgers and I believe Conners was a "throw in" in that trade.

[Doug Kitchen]

Where was baseball known to be first played?

Doug

[Jim Franklin]

cooperstown

[Michael B. Ross]

Okay, after some thought, I have come up with two questions. I limited myself to questions to which I knew the answer. I am not sure why I know the answer to these two questions, because I do not play golf. I did not search these questions on the internet.

1. Where was the first game of golf played in the U.S.?
2. Where is the oldest U.S. golf course still being used today?

Jim Poteet knows more about sports in general than any human alive. Ask him any question about sports and he will not Google to answer but only use his remarkable sports brain. He lives in Bethany, Okla. He was a long time Basketball coach and once almost got the job at Texas. He is very much from Texas. He is burnt orange all the way through. His wife Peggy is the chair of the English/Humanities at SNU. She is very smart as well but not as arrogant. He has a sports doctorate from OSU. He says you can’t spell pout with pout the letters OU.

Here are my questions.
1. How many basketball coaches has Kansas had
and who were they and over how many years?
2. Was a peach basket ever really used?

[Dennis M. Scott]

Where was baseball known to be first played?

Doug

How far is Guilderland from Cooperstown?

[Doug Kitchen]

How far is Guilderland from Cooperstown?


Dennis,

Cooperstown is a little more than an hour from our house - It's actually off of route 20 which is an old turnpike that predates the NYS thruway (I-90 west). Cooperstown has a farmer's museum, the james fennimore cooper home and the wonderful baseball hall of fame. If you (or Jim Franklin or anyone else) wants to visit cooperstown, please visit here in Guilderland.

However, it is not where baseball was first played. There appears to have been a conspiracy involving Abner Doubleday and Cooperstown to claim ownership of the title. ;) ;)

Doug

[Jim Poteet]

Burt Shotton is correct and the largest attendance was over 100,000 when the Dodgers were playing their home games in the Colesium. Shotton, like Connie Mack, did not wear a baseball uniform. He actually was a lawyer who knew baseball kind of like Howard Cosell. Jim, you remember the humorous incident you told me about Cosell's confrontation with Abe Lemons at Madison Square Garden.

I believe you may be referring to Chuck Conners who became "The Rifleman" who had previously played for the Cubs. Andy Pafko and Wayne Terwilleger had been traded by the Cubs to the Dodgers and I believe Conners was a "throw in" in that trade.

Jim,

You are incorrect about the attendance at the Coliseum. It seated 92,500. The paid attendance for all 3 Dodger home games in the 1959 World Series was 92,000+. Check the records if you don't believe me.

Jim,

[Jim Poteet]

Burt Shotton is correct and the largest attendance was over 100,000 when the Dodgers were playing their home games in the Colesium. Shotton, like Connie Mack, did not wear a baseball uniform. He actually was a lawyer who knew baseball kind of like Howard Cosell. Jim, you remember the humorous incident you told me about Cosell's confrontation with Abe Lemons at Madison Square Garden.

I believe you may be referring to Chuck Conners who became "The Rifleman" who had previously played for the Cubs. Andy Pafko and Wayne Terwilleger had been traded by the Cubs to the Dodgers and I believe Conners was a "throw in" in that trade.

Jim,

You are correct about Chuck Conners. He was the backup first baseman to Gil Hodges, which meant that he never got to play.

Yes, I remember the incident in Madison Square Garden when Howard Cosell confronted the legendary Oklahoma City University Coach, Abe Lemons. It seems that OCU was playing St. John's University in MSG in the National Invitational Tournament when it was more prestigious than the NCAA Tournament. Abe's team was about 25 points behind at half-time and so, instead of going to the locker room to plan 2nd half strategy, he had his team scrimmage "shirts" against "skins" during the 15 minute break in front of 15,000 fans. Cosell came up to Abe after the the game and lectured him about how the scrimmage had been a "bush-league" stunt. Abe looked at Howard Cosell and said in his Oklahoma drawl, "Howard, You may be big-stuff here in New York City, but in Walters, Oklahoma where I'm from, you're a nobody." Needless to say, Abe had the last laugh on Howard.

Abe was wonderful guy and he taught me many things as a young coach. He had the best sense of timing in using humor to get a point across.

[Jim Poteet]

Where was baseball known to be first played?

Doug

Doug,

Good question. There was an English game called rounders which is probably the forerunner of baseball. There is much controversey over the origin of baseball, but the best guess is that it began in Hoboken, N.J. Elysian Field and the inventor was a man named Alexander Cartwright.

Jim

[Jim Poteet]

Okay, after some thought, I have come up with two questions. I limited myself to questions to which I knew the answer. I am not sure why I know the answer to these two questions, because I do not play golf. I did not search these questions on the internet.

1. Where was the first game of golf played in the U.S.?
2. Where is the oldest U.S. golf course still being used today?

Michael,

Good questions. There is much controversey about the history of Golf in the U.S. There was a golf club in Charleston, South Carolina over 200 years ago. Probably the first game of golf was played there. However the first 3-hole golf course was in Yonkers, New York with the first 18 hole golf course being built near Wheaton, Illinois in the 1890's.

Tell me what you know about the 2 questions.

Jim

[Michael B. Ross]

Jim, many years ago I held a revival in a town about 100 miles north of Pittsburgh called Turkey City. Really. I remember it because I was there the day Reagan was shot.

Anyhow, the pastor took me to Foxburg, PA and told me it was home to the oldest golf course in the U.S. I just googled it, and it claims to host the oldest CONTINUOUS golf course in the U.S. It was built in 1887. So, my memory was not totally on target.

Two weeks ago my wife and I toured Kentucky. One of the towns claimed something about the oldest golf course. Funny, I can remember something 25 years ago better than I can two weeks ago.:basic01

Well, I just googled again and found that Middlesboro KY claims the oldest continuously used golf FACILITY in the U.S. Further reading notes that the course began as a nine hole course. Built in 1889.

So, it all proves if you add enough adverbs, adjectives and other modifiers you can stake a claim to something. Come to think of it, I am the first man ever to marry and stay CONTINUOUSLY married to a girl from Gainesville, FL named Diana who got a PhD from Indiana State University and have a son named Brent and a daughter named Danielle and a dog named Bubba.

Michael,

Good questions. There is much controversey about the history of Golf in the U.S. There was a golf club in Charleston, South Carolina over 200 years ago. Probably the first game of golf was played there. However the first 3-hole golf course was in Yonkers, New York with the first 18 hole golf course being built near Wheaton, Illinois in the 1890's.

Tell me what you know about the 2 questions.

Jim

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim Poteet knows more about American sports in general than any human alive. Ask him any question about sports and he will not Google to answer but only use his remarkable sports brain. He lives in Bethany, Okla. He was a long time Basketball coach and once almost got the job at Texas. He is very much from Texas. He is burnt orange all the way through. His wife Peggy is the chair of the English/Humanities at SNU. She is very smart as well but not as arrogant. He has a sports doctorate from OSU. He says you can’t spell pout with pout the letters OU.

Here are my questions.
1. How many basketball coaches has Kansas had
and who were they and over how many years?
2. Was a peach basket ever really used?

One more question Jim.

When were the goal posts moved off the goal line in the NFL and College?

[Doug Kitchen]

Doug,

Good question. There was an English game called rounders which is probably the forerunner of baseball. There is much controversey over the origin of baseball, but the best guess is that it began in Hoboken, N.J. Elysian Field and the inventor was a man named Alexander Cartwright.

Jim

Jim,

Excellent answer, but perhaps still not quite correct.

In 2004, a document was discovered in Pittsfield, MA banning baseball (and football) within a certain number of feet of new windows on a town building. (http://www.pittsfield-ma.org/subpage.asp?ID=226)

Pittsfield which is a small city within an hour of my house (near Albany, NY) is trying to build a tourism industry using this historic fact and its location in the Berkshires.

This document doesn't really settle who or where baseball was invented but it appears to have existed in 1791 in Pittsfield.

Thanks

Doug

[Jim Poteet]

One more question Jim.

When were the goal posts moved off the goal line in the NFL and College?

Chuck,

Now you're asking better questions.

The NFL amoved the goal posts to the back of the end zone in 1974. The colleges moved the goal posts to the end zone sometime in the 1920's.

You're getting better. B+ on those questions.

Jim

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

Now you're asking better questions.

The NFL amoved the goal posts to the back of the end zone in 1974. The colleges moved the goal posts to the end zone sometime in the 1920's.

You're getting better. B+ on those questions.

Jim
Jim that was good. Why do the kick off men always press the football ends in before they place the ball on the field?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim that was good. Why do the kick off men always press the football ends in before they place the ball on the field? Has the circumference of the rim or ball ever been changed and if so when and by whom and what is it?

[Jim Poteet]

Jim,

Excellent answer, but perhaps still not quite correct.

In 2004, a document was discovered in Pittsfield, MA banning baseball (and football) within a certain number of feet of new windows on a town building. (http://www.pittsfield-ma.org/subpage.asp?ID=226)

Pittsfield which is a small city within an hour of my house (near Albany, NY) is trying to build a tourism industry using this historic fact and its location in the Berkshires.

This document doesn't really settle who or where baseball was invented but it appears to have existed in 1791 in Pittsfield.

Thanks

Doug

Doug,

Thanks for your insight on the Pittsfield, MA situation. It may very well be that the game of baseball began in that area. 1791 is long before the "games" in Hoboken and Cooperstown. I have been to both Cooperstown and Springfield to the Baseball and Basketball Halls of Fame. What a tremendous experience. You are fortunate to live near both.

Jim

[Jim Poteet]

Jim that was good. Why do the kick off men always press the football ends in before they place the ball on the field?

Chuck,

Only you would think of a question like that. My guess is that it is more of a ritual to calm ones self before the kick much like a free throw shooter bounces the basketball several times before the attempt.

At least I can't get this one wrong.:p

Jim

[Jim Poteet]

Has the circumference of the rim or ball ever been changed and if so when and by whom and what is it?

Chuck,

I assume that you mean the basketball and rim. I know that Dr. Naismith used a soccer ball for the first basketball game and a peach basket. Who knows what the circumference of the ball and peach basket were at that time. Maybe only God knows. However the ball and rim were standardized some time in the early 20's. So now now we have a 9 inch ball and an 18 inch rim. Most people have a hard time believing that 2 basketballs can fit through the rim at the same time.:fav17

Jim

[Doug Kitchen]

Doug,

Thanks for your insight on the Pittsfield, MA situation. It may very well be that the game of baseball began in that area. 1791 is long before the "games" in Hoboken and Cooperstown. I have been to both Cooperstown and Springfield to the Baseball and Basketball Halls of Fame. What a tremendous experience. You are fortunate to live near both.

Jim

Jim,
I have been to the Baseball hall of fame twice but never to the b-ball hall. I've driven by Springfield hundreds of times, too! I think I have seen signs for a soccer hall of fame on the way to cooperstown.

So ... another question:

What is the lowest batting average that won a batting championship? Why did this anomaly occur? and what was the year?

(I think I'm remembering this stat correctly - if not let me know)

Doug

[Jim Poteet]

Jim,
I have been to the Baseball hall of fame twice but never to the b-ball hall. I've driven by Springfield hundreds of times, too! I think I have seen signs for a soccer hall of fame on the way to cooperstown.

So ... another question:

What is the lowest batting average that won a batting championship? Why did this anomaly occur? and what was the year?

(I think I'm remembering this stat correctly - if not let me know)

Doug

Doug,

I believe that it was Carl Yastremski - .302, 1968?. I think that it was the last year before the mound height was standardized to 10 inches. Pitchers had a great advantage. Most pitchers mounds in major league parks were 15 to 16 inches high from about 1961 to 1968.

You must go see the new basketball hall of fame. It is magnificent with many interactive aspects.

Jim

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, I believe you but it seems to me that Vin Scully announced over 100,000 as the total attendance as more than the paid attendance. That is just based on an old man's memory so I probably am wrong, Oh wise and honorable sir.

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, do you remember the BNC adjunct faculty member who had previously played major league baseball?

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, I believe you but it seems to me that Vin Scully announced over 100,000 as the total attendance as more than the paid attendance. That is just based on an old man's memory so I probably am wrong, Oh wise and honorable sir.

Ever notice how old people can forget that they have already will forget that they have already hit the "quick reply" and do it again.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim, do you remember the BNC adjunct faculty member who had previously played major league baseball?

Jim,

I don't. Who was it.:confused:

Jim:

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, it was Fred Minton who had played for the Dodgers and the Orioles. In conversation with him in 1972-73 school year I mentioned some of his teammates such as Sandy Amoros and his great over the shoulder catch in a World Series game and Fred said, "You really are a baseball fan." Fred had a doctorate in Psychology and had his own counseling practice and taught a course or two. How much more he taught I do not know because that was my last year. Betty Stahl who had been Dr. Ripper's secretary transferred over to Dr. Minton, I believe.

[Wilson L. Deaton]

Jim Poteet knows more about sports in general than any human alive. Ask him any question about sports and he will not Google to answer but only use his remarkable sports brain....

First baseball player known (documented) to have used a glove and when?

(This answer was not in my general knowledge. I just recently came across this while looking for the answer to a different question I had.)

Wilson

[Doug Kitchen]

Doug,

I believe that it was Carl Yastremski - .302, 1968?. I think that it was the last year before the mound height was standardized to 10 inches. Pitchers had a great advantage. Most pitchers mounds in major league parks were 15 to 16 inches high from about 1961 to 1968.

You must go see the new basketball hall of fame. It is magnificent with many interactive aspects.

Jim

Jim,

That is all correct (as far as my memory goes). I think you got the spelling right as well. Yaz won the triple crown the year.

Thanks
Doug

[Ryan Scott]

Jim,

Excellent answer, but perhaps still not quite correct.

In 2004, a document was discovered in Pittsfield, MA banning baseball (and football) within a certain number of feet of new windows on a town building. (http://www.pittsfield-ma.org/subpage.asp?ID=226)

Pittsfield which is a small city within an hour of my house (near Albany, NY) is trying to build a tourism industry using this historic fact and its location in the Berkshires.

This document doesn't really settle who or where baseball was invented but it appears to have existed in 1791 in Pittsfield.



I've heard (although could not find proof in a quick google search, that further research has shown to some degree of certitude for some people, that the game called "baseball" from Pittsfield was not the same game played later on in Hoboken, although it may also have been a version of rounders.

[Ryan Scott]

This is a fascinating thread. I picked up a copy of the questions from the old Trivial Pursuit All-Star sports edition at a garage sale the other day. Those questions are ridiculously tough, maybe I'll post a few later.

[Wesley Smith]

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Jim, it was Fred Minton who had played for the Dodgers and the Orioles. In conversation with him in 1972-73 school year I mentioned some of his teammates such as Sandy Amoros and his great over the shoulder catch in a World Series game and Fred said, "You really are a baseball fan." Fred had a doctorate in Psychology and had his own counseling practice and taught a course or two. How much more he taught I do not know because that was my last year. Betty Stahl who had been Dr. Ripper's secretary transferred over to Dr. Minton, I believe.

Jim,

Wish you could tell me more about Fred Minton. He was the guy who kept me after class one day and asked why I specialized in underachievement. That question changed my life. He convinced me in one conversation that I had more gray matter than I thought I did! He wouldn't speak much about his baseball experience in class. I seem to remember that he said he had changed his name away from the name he used as a baseball player.

Wes

[Jim Poteet]

First baseball player known (documented) to have used a glove and when?

(This answer was not in my general knowledge. I just recently came across this while looking for the answer to a different question I had.)

Wilson

Wilson,

What a great question! I don't know names, but the first glove was used by a Cincinnati Red Stockings player in the early 1870's. Give us the information that you know.

Jim

[Wilson L. Deaton]

Wilson,

What a great question! I don't know names, but the first glove was used by a Cincinnati Red Stockings player in the early 1870's. Give us the information that you know.

Jim

Here's the info as I found it:

Some say the first player to use a baseball glove was Doug Allison, a catcher for the Cincinnati Red Stockings, in 1870, due to an injured left hand. The first documented story of glove use however concerns Charles Waitt, a St. Louis outfielder-first baseman who in 1875 donned a pair of flesh-colored gloves. While glove usage was not accepted by all players at first, being considered "sissy" by many, it slowly caught on as more and more players began using different forms of gloves. Many early baseball gloves were simple leather gloves with the fingertips cut off, supposedly to allow for the same control of a bare hand, but with extra padding. The adoption of the baseball glove by baseball star Albert Spalding when he began playing first base influenced more infielders to begin using gloves. By the mid 1890s, it was the norm for players to wear gloves in the field.

Wilson

[Jim Poteet]

Jim, it was Fred Minton who had played for the Dodgers and the Orioles. In conversation with him in 1972-73 school year I mentioned some of his teammates such as Sandy Amoros and his great over the shoulder catch in a World Series game and Fred said, "You really are a baseball fan." Fred had a doctorate in Psychology and had his own counseling practice and taught a course or two. How much more he taught I do not know because that was my last year. Betty Stahl who had been Dr. Ripper's secretary transferred over to Dr. Minton, I believe.

Jim,

As Wes says on another reply, Fred Minton must have played under another name. He is not listed anywhere on the dodger and oriole all-time rosters. Do some research and see what you can uncover.

Jim

[Roland Hearn]

While glove usage was not accepted by all players at first, being considered "sissy" by many

Wilson

Yeh we cricket fans still think of it that way. We have fielders that stand about three feet from the bat and catch the ball as it comes of the bat from a miss hit. Of course when it is a full blooded swing and you take it in the shins you can be in a lot of trouble. The fielding positions are found under the heading "silly" so you would have "silly mid off" etc. The only player that wears gloves is the wicket keeper which is basically the same position as catcher.

We have just gotten use to the fact that American sportsman can't take the tough stuff like Commonwealth sportsmen, you even use pads to play football.

Just doing my bit for international harmony. :basic05

[Doug Kitchen]

I've heard (although could not find proof in a quick google search, that further research has shown to some degree of certitude for some people, that the game called "baseball" from Pittsfield was not the same game played later on in Hoboken, although it may also have been a version of rounders.

Ryan,

You are right in that people are disputing Pittsfield's claim. But you can't tell that to anyone in Pittsfield! Last week they had dice-k over to inspect the document. He's making 50M - so he can't be wrong! ;)

The following indicates that baseball was a separate game from many similar ones:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/treasure/autont2004b.shtml

Every once in a while, Pittsfield ends up on the news - it's either baseball or pcb's in the hoosatonic
;)

Doug

[Jim Poteet]

Yeh we cricket fans still think of it that way. We have fielders that stand about three feet from the bat and catch the ball as it comes of the bat from a miss hit. Of course when it is a full blooded swing and you take it in the shins you can be in a lot of trouble. The fielding positions are found under the heading "silly" so you would have "silly mid off" etc. The only player that wears gloves is the wicket keeper which is basically the same position as catcher.

We have just gotten use to the fact that American sportsman can't take the tough stuff like Commonwealth sportsmen, you even use pads to play football.

Just doing my bit for international harmony. :basic05

Roland,

That is true. We are not very tough when it comes to playing without pads. I am always amazed at rugby matches of the toughness of the players who are constantly being hit and coming back for more.

I have been in Melbourne several times and and I am intrigued by Australian Rules Football. I know that you don't play it as much in Queensland, but the game has constant action and the skill and toughness needed to play the game is absurd. I once watched Collinwood and Carleton play in front of about 80,000 vociferous fans and it was a "jolly" time.

The Aussies love their sports. It almost seems to be the national religion.

Jim

[Roland Hearn]

Roland,

That is true. We are not very tough when it comes to playing without pads. I am always amazed at rugby matches of the toughness of the players who are constantly being hit and coming back for more.


Imagine Rugby on fast forward and you have Rugby League, a descendent game that developed in the north of England at the turn of the 19th/20th century. That is the game that is most popular in the eastern states of Australia.

But Jim you can add graciousness to your sports expertise, I really made my comments to see if I could throw a cat among the pigeons.


I have been in Melbourne several times and and I am intrigued by Australian Rules Football. I know that you don't play it as much in Queensland, but the game has constant action and the skill and toughness needed to play the game is absurd. I once watched Collinwood and Carleton play in front of about 80,000 vociferous fans and it was a "jolly" time.

The Aussies love their sports. It almost seems to be the national religion.

Jim

Australian Rules football is an incredible game and different from any other code of football. When I am trying to explain game philosophy to an American I say Rugby League is more similar to American football in many ways then it is to the original game of Rugby. Aussie Rules football is more similar to basketball.
If you think about your experiences with Aussie Rules you may see the similarity between that and Basketball. If you told basketball players to kick the ball instead of pass it and you had goal posts instead of a basket and you increased the playing area to accomodate the kick that would be pretty much Aussie Rules football. I think that is why it very quickly captures an American imagination.

A Collingwood and Carlton clash is definetly the one to see. 80,000 people to a football game, in fact I think the record crowd is around 100,000, and Carlton and Collingwood are two inner Melbourne suburbs. Was it at the MCG that you saw that game or at Victoria park?

[Jim Poteet]

Imagine Rugby on fast forward and you have Rugby League, a descendent game that developed in the north of England at the turn of the 19th/20th century. That is the game that is most popular in the eastern states of Australia.

But Jim you can add graciousness to your sports expertise, I really made my comments to see if I could throw a cat among the pigeons.



Australian Rules football is an incredible game and different from any other code of football. When I am trying to explain game philosophy to an American I say Rugby League is more similar to American football in many ways then it is to the original game of Rugby. Aussie Rules football is more similar to basketball.
If you think about your experiences with Aussie Rules you may see the similarity between that and Basketball. If you told basketball players to kick the ball instead of pass it and you had goal posts instead of a basket and you increased the playing area to accomodate the kick that would be pretty much Aussie Rules football. I think that is why it very quickly captures an American imagination.

A Collingwood and Carlton clash is definetly the one to see. 80,000 people to a football game, in fact I think the record crowd is around 100,000, and Carlton and Collingwood are two inner Melbourne suburbs. Was it at the MCG that you saw that game or at Victoria park?

Roland,

I believe I saw the Collinwood/Carlton clash at Victoria Park. I was in the Melbourne Cricket Grounds for the opening ceremonies of the World Masters Games in 2002. The World Masters Games are run by the International Olympic Committee and they are the largest athletic event in the world. There were over 30,000 athletes at the games in all the Olympic events. There were over 75,000 at the opening ceremonies in the MCG. The competition is age grouped, 50-54, 55-59, etc on to age 100. There was an gentlemen, 101 who won a gold medal in his age category in the shot put. Of course, he was the only participant.

I participated in two divisions of basketball, the 60-64's and played down in the 55-59's. I played with a group of former Aussie Basketball Olympians including the greatest coach in the history of Aussie basketball, Lindsey Gaze. He is a good friend of many years and we won 2 silver medals. I plan, if the Good Lord is willing, to return to Australia and play in the 2009 World Masters Games which will be held in Sydney. I will again play with my Aussie friends.

I probably told you more than you wanted to know, but I love to compete and forturnately my body has held up so I can continue to play.:D

Jim

[Roland Hearn]

Roland,

I believe I saw the Collinwood/Carlton clash at Victoria Park.

I believe they have now closed Victoria Park now, I went and saw a game there back in the early '90s. Melbourne is 1000 miles from where I live so that was a fun experience.

I was in the Melbourne Cricket Grounds for the opening ceremonies of the World Masters Games in 2002. The World Masters Games are run by the International Olympic Committee and they are the largest athletic event in the world. There were over 30,000 athletes at the games in all the Olympic events. There were over 75,000 at the opening ceremonies in the MCG.


The MCG is one of the world's top stadiums. I recently went on a guided tour of the place. The back seats are some 15 stories off the ground. They once had a Billy Graham crusade there with 120,000 people in attendence. Of course there were people on the field.


I participated in two divisions of basketball, the 60-64's and played down in the 55-59's. I played with a group of former Aussie Basketball Olympians including the greatest coach in the history of Aussie basketball, Lindsey Gaze. He is a good friend of many years and we won 2 silver medals. I plan, if the Good Lord is willing, to return to Australia and play in the 2009 World Masters Games which will be held in Sydney. I will again play with my Aussie friends.

Lindsey Gase is of course something of a household name here so I am very impressed. His son of course, these days, probably is even better well known. And with the question theme - what can you tell me about him?

Let me know when you are next down under, you just never know we might get a chance to go to a cricket game together :basic03.

[Mike Wooldridge]

OK, Jim, with American football season coming, here's one for you.
(1) When was the 1st American college football game televised?
(2) What teams played?
(3) Who won?

[Jim Poteet]

I believe they have now closed Victoria Park now, I went and saw a game there back in the early '90s. Melbourne is 1000 miles from where I live so that was a fun experience.




The MCG is one of the world's top stadiums. I recently went on a guided tour of the place. The back seats are some 15 stories off the ground. They once had a Billy Graham crusade there with 120,000 people in attendence. Of course there were people on the field.



Lindsey Gase is of course something of a household name here so I am very impressed. His son of course, these days, probably is even better well known. And with the question theme - what can you tell me about him?

Let me know when you are next down under, you just never know we might get a chance to go to a cricket game together :basic03.

Roland,

Lindsay Gaze's son Andrew is the all-time leading scorer in the history of Australian basketball. He retired from the Australian NBA either last year or the year before. He played one year of college basketball in the U.S. and led Seton Hall to the National Championship game in 1989. He played in the NBA for a couple of teams including the San Antonio Spurs. I remember Andrew as a young boy in the early 70's running around Albert Park Stadium (the old basketball venue) in Melbourne because his dad, Lindsey, was the manager of the place. Lindsey played on the 1956 Australian Olympic basketball team as well as the 60, 64 and 68 team. He then became the Olympic Basketball coach and coached through the 92 Olympics.

As you know, the 1956 Olympics were held in Australia and the US Basketball team won that Olympics. There was a young 20 year old player on the US squad of 15 players who was an alternate and did not see action because only 12 players could play in the games. That 20 year old young Texan was a student at Pasadena College by the name of Jim Bond. He was a 3 time NAIA All-American and was drafted by the then Minneapolis (Los Angeles) Lakers. You all know him better as Dr. Jim Bond, General Superintendent Emeritus. Now you know the rest of the story.

[Jim Poteet]

OK, Jim, with American football season coming, here's one for you.
(1) When was the 1st American college football game televised?
(2) What teams played?
(3) Who won?

Mike,

Great question. The first game was televised in Sept. 1939. I know that Fordham was one of the teams. I don't know the other team, and I can only assume that Fordham won.

Thanks for the question.

Jim

[Mike Wooldridge]

Mike,

Great question. The first game was televised in Sept. 1939. I know that Fordham was one of the teams. I don't know the other team, and I can only assume that Fordham won.

Thanks for the question.

Jim

You're right, Jim, Fordham beat Waynesburg College. Here's some more information from the Waynesburg Web site.

WAYNESBURG PLAYS FIRST TELEVISED FOOTBALL GAME

The inception of televised sports took place in the New York City area from 1939 to1940. A signal reaching an estimated 500 homes in a 50-mile radius broadcasted games from Ebbets Field, Madison Square Garden and Yankee Stadium. Those who could afford a $600 television set at the time witnessed television history. And it was the Waynesburg College Yellow Jackets that they first watched play football.

The Yellow Jackets visited Randall's Island, N.Y., on Sept. 30, 1939 to play in the first televised football game when they battled Fordham University at Triboro Stadium.
NBC broadcasted the game with one camera, as announcer Bill Stern made the historic call.

Fordham won the game, 34-7, over Waynesburg, guided by its all-time winningest coach Frank Wolf, despite scoring the first touchdown in the televised football history when Bobby Brooks reached the end zone on a 63-yard run.

The historic journey to New York took an entire weekend as a cavalcade of cars left Waynesburg on Thursday, Sept. 28. In all, 42 players and the team's personnel made the 400-mile trip. Among the players was John F. "Jack" Wiley, the namesake of the current Waynesburg football stadium. Wiley would move on to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers before a coaching career at Waynesburg. The Jackets finished the season 6-2-1, as did Fordham, a preseason pick for the national championship.

The game came just one month after the Brooklyn Dodgers hosted the Cincinnati Reds in the first-ever televised professional baseball game, and five months after the Princeton and Columbia baseball teams played the first televised sporting event. On Oct. 22, 1939, the Brooklyn Dodgers football team defeated the Philadelphia Eagles, 24-14, at Ebbets Field for the first-ever televised professional football game. Within a year later, the New York Rangers played the Montreal Canadiens in the first televised hockey game at Madison Square Garden, while the University of Pittsburgh visited Fordham for the first televised basketball game.

What was once considered the demise of attendance at games and the end of professional football, television broadcast has since developed into a lucrative business that has changed American culture. And yet, it all started when a few men from Waynesburg left town for the weekend to play a simple game of football.

[Roland Hearn]

As you know, the 1956 Olympics were held in Australia and the US Basketball team won that Olympics. There was a young 20 year old player on the US squad of 15 players who was an alternate and did not see action because only 12 players could play in the games. That 20 year old young Texan was a student at Pasadena College by the name of Jim Bond. He was a 3 time NAIA All-American and was drafted by the then Minneapolis (Los Angeles) Lakers. You all know him better as Dr. Jim Bond, General Superintendent Emeritus. Now you know the rest of the story.

Well that part I did not know. You may not know much about cricket or Rugby League but you do have a handle on Australian Basketball. Obviously the size of the competition here does not lend itself to creating too many NBA champions but there is a certain young star running around at the moment though that has turned a few heads. Any information?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

Only you would think of a question like that. My guess is that it is more of a ritual to calm ones self before the kick much like a free throw shooter bounces the basketball several times before the attempt.

At least I can't get this one wrong.:p

JimThe right answer is that it's the way the place kicker takes dominion over the ball before the kick as does the free thrower. It’s a spiritual thing. Only a real Evangelist would know that answer.

[Chuck Millhuff]

The right answer is that it's the way the place kicker takes dominion over the ball before the kick as does the free thrower. It’s a spiritual thing. Only a real Evangelist would know that answer.Have we had a Nazarene NFL player that amounted to anything?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Have we had a Nazarene NFL player that amounted to anything?Which Nazarene school first played intercollegate basketball in shorts I might add?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Roland:Why don't they wear helmets. We had a president ( Gerald Ford) who played football for Michigan and did not wear a helmet as was the custom in those days. It showed. Should our Generals wear helmets at the General Assemblies? I think so!

[Chuck Millhuff]

Roland:Why don't they wear helmets. We had a president ( Gerald Ford) who played football for Michigan and did not wear a helmet as was the custom in those days. It showed. Should our Generals wear helmets at the General Assemblies? I think so!Jim: Who was the first lady to play NHL? She played goal. I'll give you that much.

[Mike Wooldridge]

Here's an easy one for Coach Poteet.
(I was at SNU [my degree still says BNC] in the '70s when he coached REDSKIN basketball.)
Who is Jack Mildren, and where did he play high school football?

[Ryan Scott]

there is a certain young star running around at the moment though that has turned a few heads. Any information?


You guys gotta make these questions harder. If I know the answers to them; they're too easy.


Andrew Bogut, product of one year at the University of Utah. He's playing for the Milwaukee Bucks and doing much better than expected.


Jim: Who was the first lady to play NHL? She played goal. I'll give you that much.

Mannon (sp?) Rheume played goalie for the Tampa Bay Lightning when they first began play.

[Jim Poteet]

Here's an easy one for Coach Poteet.
(I was at SNU [my degree still says BNC] in the '70s when he coached REDSKIN basketball.)
Who is Jack Mildren, and where did he play high school football?

Mike,

Jack Mildren was the great wishbone quarterback at Oklahoma University in the late 60's-early 70's. He later became the lieutenant governor of Oklahoma. He played high school football at Abilene Cooper and his coach was Merrill Green. Merrill is a long-time Nazarene and is currently a member of Bryan, Texas Nazarene Church.

Jim

[Mike Wooldridge]

Mike,

Jack Mildren was the great wishbone quarterback at Oklahoma University in the late 60's-early 70's. He later became the lieutenant governor of Oklahoma. He played high school football at Abilene Cooper and his coach was Merrill Green. Merrill is a long-time Nazarene and is currently a member of Bryan, Texas Nazarene Church.

Jim

Yea Coach! I hadn't heard Merrill Green's name in years. I think I grew up about the time he had teenagers. I'm glad to have some current information about Coach Green. Abilene Cooper was a "power house" school in those days and I remember watching several football games at Shotwell Stadium in Abilene.

[Jeremy D. Scott]

I thought of this thread when I saw this article:
Rubgy Player has Tooth Extracted...from His HEAD
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2939283

[Jim Poteet]

Have we had a Nazarene NFL player that amounted to anything?

Chuck,

Now that is a good question! Yes, we have had a Nazarene who was a star in the NFL and was even an all-Pro. David Baker, who was a quarterback at Oklahoma University in the late 50's, starred for the San Francisco 49'ers as a defensive back during the '59, '60 and '61 seasons. He led the NFL in interceptions with 10 in one of those seasons and intercepted 21 during his 3 year career. He was drafted in the US Army after the 61 season. He felt that he should retire after his 2 years in the Army and came to Bethany Nazarene College (BNC) to start the intercollegiate athletic program. He was the 1st Athletic Director and basketball coach.

David was a visionary and he is largely responsible for the outstanding athletic program that SNU (BNC) has today. Interestingly, David spent the last semester of college at BNC after the 1958 OU football season. It seems that legendary OU coach, Bud Wilkinson, was unhappy because David got married and asked him to leave the team. His wife, Edna, was a member of the Rushing family Singers and her older sister, Justine is married to former General Superintendent John Knight. David passed away about 5 years ago of a lung disease. SNU owes a great debt of gratitude to David Baker for his vision and leadership.

Jim

[Jim Poteet]

Well that part I did not know. You may not know much about cricket or Rugby League but you do have a handle on Australian Basketball. Obviously the size of the competition here does not lend itself to creating too many NBA champions but there is a certain young star running around at the moment though that has turned a few heads. Any information?

Roland,

You are probably referring to Andrew Bogut, an Aussie, who was the 1st draft choice of the Milwaukee Bucks about 3 years ago. He has done quite well and is certainly a better than average NBA player.

Jim

[Roland Hearn]

I thought of this thread when I saw this article:
Rubgy Player has Tooth Extracted...from His HEAD
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/news/story?id=2939283

See now that is where the confusion lies. He isn't a Rugby Player he is a Rugby League player. And that is the difference. A rugby player would be a lawyer, playing beside a dentist who would extract the tooth personally. A Rugby League player just says "uggh". One of the ways to remember the difference is Rugby is played in Argentina, refer Falklands war, Rugby League is the National sport for the head hunters of New Guinea.

The guy actually kept playing with the tooth stuck in his head for months but was feeling so tired constantly and no one could work out why. Finally they discovered the tooth stuck in there and he has been feeling a lot better and playing that way too.

One of the enduring images for me of Rugby League is the photo of the captain of the team winning the grand final back in the early 70's. As he comes of the field at the end of the game his jaw is all pushed sideways. He had played most of the game with a broken jaw. The captain of my local team, now out for the rest of the season, played about 20 minutes of the game hopping on one leg with an ACL injury. A game a few weeks ago lost so many players that a guy, knocked completely out in the first minutes staggered back onto the field because there were no more replacements left on the bench. There are only four to start with and you can make a maximum of 12 changes in an entire game. They think that is too many and they are trying to get it decreased.

[Jim Franklin]

Jim, you may or may not remember that Dave Baker and myself put together plans for what we called "Faculty Family," in an effort to draw the different faculty members into a more bonded group. We had the Friday Faculty Forum at noon and a Faculty Devotional time on Monday noons. He was president and I was vice president. No dues, no formal meetings so therefore no treasurer or secretary. Sometimes instead of brown bagging for the Friday Faculty Forum we had the dining hall food service put together a menu which we charged a couple of bucks for. I remember on several occasion sending Scott Skiles and Scott Stearman, who were in my class just before noon, to the dining hall kitchen to carry the food over to the Social Science building where we had created a faculty lounge. Near Thanksgiving Dave smoked a turkey on the side of the gym where I could look down from my office window to keep an eye on its progress. On one occasion near Easter we had one of the local pastors administer communion. Dr. Greathouse met with us on one occasion. Dave Baker and I enjoyed a good friendship.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim, you may or may not remember that Dave Baker and myself put together plans for what we called "Faculty Family," in an effort to draw the different faculty members into a more bonded group. We had the Friday Faculty Forum at noon and a Faculty Devotional time on Monday noons. He was president and I was vice president. No dues, no roemal meetings so therefore no treasurer or secretary. Sometimes instead of brown bagging for the Friday Faculty Forum we had the dining hall food service put together a menu which we charged a couple of buck for. I remember on several occasion sending Scott Skiles and Scott Stearman, who were in my class just before noon, to the dining hall kitchen to carry the food over to the Social Science building where we had created a faculty lounge. Near Thanksgiving Dave smoked a turkey on the side of the gym where I could look down from my office window to keep an eye on its progress. On one occasion near Easter we had one of the local pastors administer communion. Dr. Greathouse met with us on one occasion. Dave Baker and I enjoyed a good friendship.

Jim,

I remember those days and we had some good times. Dave was an innovator and always looked for ways to grow and develop.

I have another sports question for you and anyone else to answer. Who is the only player in history to play on a baseball World Series Championship team and an National Basketball Association World Championship team? What teams did he play for?

Jim

[Jim Poteet]

Which Nazarene school first played intercollegate basketball in shorts I might add?

Chuck,

Northwest Nazarene College (NNU) was the 1st Nazarene college to start intercollegiate athletics and were the 1st to play basketball in shorts.

Jim

[Jim Franklin]

Roland, during the 1954-55 school year when I was in high school at Chelan, WA, the neighboring high school at Entiat had obtained for their basketball coach a former member of the 1952 Australian Olympic basketball team who was about 6'7" and dated the womens coach at our high school who was about 6'2". His first name was Pete but I do not remember his last name and her name was June Johnson. What a towering pair they made to the little 5'5" waterboy for the Chelan Goats.

[Jim Franklin]

The name Byron Beck comes to mind but I am not sure and I don't remember which teams and I believe he was the Tri-Cities in Washington. It seems like there might have been a Celtic who also played baseball as a pitcher.

[Jim Poteet]

The name Byron Beck comes to mind but I am not sure and I don't remember which teams and I believe he was the Tri-Cities in Washington. It seems like there might have been a Celtic who also played baseball as a pitcher.

Jim,

Keep trying. You are striking out.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Mike,

Jack Mildren was the great wishbone quarterback at Oklahoma University in the late 60's-early 70's. He later became the lieutenant governor of Oklahoma. He played high school football at Abilene Cooper and his coach was Merrill Green. Merrill is a long-time Nazarene and is currently a member of Bryan, Texas Nazarene Church.

Jim

Merrill's daughter is also a coach I think (or at least a P.E. teacher) and is related to someone in our family.

Also, who was the former coach (with Nazarene connections) at UCA in Conway several years ago who moved somewhere in TX to coach? I can see his face but his name has momentarily eluded me? Was at that airport to pick up Jay and Barbara and they introduced him to us.

P.S. If anyone is tempted to make fun of those TX Aggies, s/he better think twice. I read that there are more people with PhDs (per capita) living in the College Station/Bryan area than anywhere in the country. No more Aggie jokes about them!

Enjoying this Men's Forum,

[Jim Poteet]

Merrill's daughter is also a coach I think (or at least a P.E. teacher) and is related to someone in our family.

Also, who was the former coach (with Nazarene connections) at UCA in Conway several years ago who moved somewhere in TX to coach? I can see his face but his name has momentarily eluded me? Was at that airport to pick up Jay and Barbara and they introduced him to us.

P.S. If anyone is tempted to make fun of those TX Aggies, s/he better think twice. I read that there are more people with PhDs (per capita) living in the College Station/Bryan area than anywhere in the country. No more Aggie jokes about them!

Enjoying this Men's Forum,

Edith,

Merrill Green's daughter, Stephanie Shellenberger is on the faculty at SNU. She was a very successful Volleyball coach, but gave it up for teaching in Kinesiology and Sport Management area.

I don't know who you are referring to from UCA in Conway.

[Scott Hilton]

In the sport of Mixed Martial arts, in the year of 2000, two men entered a 16 man grand prix event for Pride. Royce Gracie and Kazushi Sakuraba fought each other.

How long did the fight last?
Who won?
What was his finishing move?

blessings
Scott

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Edith,

Merrill Green's daughter, Stephanie Shellenberger is on the faculty at SNU. She was a very successful Volleyball coach, but gave it up for teaching in Kinesiology and Sport Management area.

I don't know who you are referring to from UCA in Conway.

Remembering (in the back of my mind) that Stephanie was not longer coaching - just teaching.

Thought of the other coach: Ken Stephens from Conway who was a Nazarene and was somehow connected to Merrill Green. Also, he moved from UCA to Beaumont, TX to a university there. He was pretty well-known in sports circles in "those there parts" and was both good at football and track. I even think that he coached at Bethany at one time; can't remember if it was high school or college.

Laughing at myself for 'talking shop' with you sports guys!

Blessings,

[Mike Wooldridge]

Merrill's daughter is also a coach I think (or at least a P.E. teacher) and is related to someone in our family.

Also, who was the former coach (with Nazarene connections) at UCA in Conway several years ago who moved somewhere in TX to coach? I can see his face but his name has momentarily eluded me? Was at that airport to pick up Jay and Barbara and they introduced him to us.

P.S. If anyone is tempted to make fun of those TX Aggies, s/he better think twice. I read that there are more people with PhDs (per capita) living in the College Station/Bryan area than anywhere in the country. No more Aggie jokes about them!

Enjoying this Men's Forum,

According to Texas A&M alums, what do you call a Texas Aggie 10 years after graduation?
Boss :)

[Jim Poteet]

In the sport of Mixed Martial arts, in the year of 2000, two men entered a 16 man grand prix event for Pride. Royce Gracie and Kazushi Sakuraba fought each other.

How long did the fight last?
Who won?
What was his finishing move?

blessings
Scott

Scott.

No clue. Educate us.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Scott.

No clue. Educate us.I have no idea about the two ring guy in both BB's.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim,

I remember those days and we had some good times. Dave was an innovator and always looked for ways to grow and develop.

I have another sports question for you and anyone else to answer. Who is the only player in history to play on a baseball World Series Championship team and an National Basketball Association World Championship team? What teams did he play for?

JimJim: Here is one you will never get how long can a baseball bat be? No smart aleck stfuff now !!!

[Jim Poteet]

Jim: Here is one you will never get how long can a baseball bat be be?

Chuck,

Long enough to hit the ball. Babe Ruth used one of the longest bats in history. I think the answer is 42 inches.

Here is your chance for redemption. Who is the only player in history to play on a world series championship team and a NBA world championship team?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Jim: Here is one you will never get how long can a baseball bat be? No smart aleck stfuff now !!!Louisville has the word slugger above their bat what word was above the Spaulding bat logo?

[Jim Poteet]

Louisville has the word slugger above their bat what word was above the Spaulding bat logo?

Chuck,

I have no idea. Educate me.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

I have no idea. Educate me.The word was mushroom. I am a plethora of this stuff. Jim you mean toadstools.

[Jim Poteet]

The word was mushroom. I am a plethora of this stuff.

Chuck,

I think you've been eating mushrooms.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

I think you've been eating mushrooms.Jim:How high was the Houston Superdome?

[Monty Stewart]

Aloha Jim,

I read recently about a NCAA pitcher that is ambidextrous. Has there ever been a MLB pitcher that was ambidextrous?

Thanks,
Monty

[Ryan Scott]

The only person I can think of who might have been on winning teams in both baseball and basketball is Danny Ainge. I didn't think he won in baseball though (wasn't he on the Blue Jays?).

I know both Dave Winfield and Tony Gwynn were drafted into both leagues, but I didn't think either one played basketball.

[Mike Wooldridge]

Coach,
When, where and by what team was the first US pro football training camp held?

[Jim Poteet]

Aloha Jim,

I read recently about a NCAA pitcher that is ambidextrous. Has there ever been a MLB pitcher that was ambidextrous?

Thanks,
Monty

Monty,

What a great question. Creighton University had a an ambidextrous pitcher this past season. He was very good and led them to the the NCAA tournament. However, I don't know of an ambidextrous pitcher in the major leagues. Maybe someone can help us out.

[Jim Poteet]

The only person I can think of who might have been on winning teams in both baseball and basketball is Danny Ainge. I didn't think he won in baseball though (wasn't he on the Blue Jays?).

I know both Dave Winfield and Tony Gwynn were drafted into both leagues, but I didn't think either one played basketball.

Ryan,

Good guess. However, you are not right. The player played in the 50's and 60's. Jim Franklin should know the answer to this question.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim:How high was the Houston Superdome?

Chuck,

It was so high that you couldn't get over it, so low you couldn't get under it, so wide you could't get around it.......................

[Mike Wooldridge]

Chuck,

It was so high that you couldn't get over it, so low you couldn't get under it, so wide you could't get around it.......................

The Superdome is in New Orleans. The Astrodome is in Houston.

[Jim Poteet]

Coach,
When, where and by what team was the first US pro football training camp held?

Mike,

You've stumped me on this one, but I will take a guess. Was it the Dallas Cowboys at California Lutheran college in the early 60's? Or the Green Bay Packer somewhere at a small college in Wisconsin?

Let me know the answer.

[Scott Hilton]

Scott.

No clue. Educate us.
Kazushi Sakuraba won the fight, it lasted 90 minutes. The winning move was Royce Gracies brother throwing in the towel after the 6th 15 minute round of the fight. Gracie had requested a special no-time limit fight with Sakuraba and it seems to have worked against him. He could barely walk by the end of the fight from the leg kicks he endured during the fight.

blessings
Scott

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Jim,

What baseball player, who played for the Chicago Cubs and ended his career playing for the St. Louis Cardinals, began a 3 generations 'family affair' of professional baseball players? Following him into the sport were his son and his grandson. After playing, he later became a manager for a couple of teams.

???

[Ryan Scott]

Ryan,

Good guess. However, you are not right. The player played in the 50's and 60's. Jim Franklin should know the answer to this question.


Hey, was it Jackie Robinson? I know he played basketball as well as baseball, I guess I didn't know exactly when the NBA officially started.

[Jim Poteet]

Jim,

What baseball player, who played for the Chicago Cubs and ended his career playing for the St. Louis Cardinals, began a 3 generations 'family affair' of professional baseball players? Following him into the sport were his son and his grandson. After playing, he later became a manager for a couple of teams.

???

Edith,

That's a great question. You must be a big major league baseball fan. You may have stumped me. I know that Ray Boone, his son Bob Boone, and his grandson ,Brett Boone have all played major league baseball. I also know that Ray managed in the major leagues. However, I don't think that Ray Boone played for the Chicago Cubs or St. Louis Cardinals.

[Jim Poteet]

Hey, was it Jackie Robinson? I know he played basketball as well as baseball, I guess I didn't know exactly when the NBA officially started.

Ryan,

Good guess, but it was not Jackie Robinson. I'll give a hint. He played in the NBA for the Boston Celtics and won several NBA Championships with them. His baseball team won the World Series in the late 50's.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Edith,

That's a great question. You must be a big major league baseball fan. You may have stumped me. I know that Ray Boone, his son Bob Boone, and his grandson ,Brett Boone have all played major league baseball. I also know that Ray managed in the major leagues. However, I don't think that Ray Boone played for the Chicago Cubs or St. Louis Cardinals.

How about this for a qualifier: This major-league catcher's son played for the Cardinals in their minor league as a catcher also. His grandson, signed by the Minnesota Twins organization, is a pitcher and relief/pitcher. Father and son were born right-handed and batted left; grandson born left-handed and bats right.

There are at least 3 families (maybe 4 by now) who have had 3 generations in the major leagues but none of them met the specifications of my query to you.

My interest in baseball came about by default. As the mother of a son who is an avid baseball player and fan, I had to learn some things just to be relevant and to survive in his world. :) He taught me to actually enjoy the game, especially when played at a major league park. The old Rangers' field was my first and I absoutely loved games at The Ballpark at Arlington. Since then, more games and more fields. Also have several cousins who are avid fans and they even pay $150 a ticket to see playoff games of major league teams.

You will not be stumped any longer with the further clues now given

???

[Jim Franklin]

Stephanie Green Shellenberger is another former student of mine and a good one too. Her sister in law, Susie, editor of Brio, was somewhat younger and baby sat for our older boy when she was in junior hign. The Shellenbergers lived across Oakridge from us.

[Jim Franklin]

Chuck, I don't thing it was a fact that Gerald Ford did not wear a helmet when he played for Michigan. I think that was Lyndon Johnson's way of saying that Ford had been hit in the head to many times as the reason he did not agree with Democrats on a lot of issues.

[Ian Gentles]

I just want to know, now, so i can put money on, just kidding, who wins this years British Open lol

[Ryan Scott]

Good guess, but it was not Jackie Robinson. I'll give a hint. He played in the NBA for the Boston Celtics and won several NBA Championships with them. His baseball team won the World Series in the late 50's.


I don't think I'm going to get this without looking it up.

[Chuck Millhuff]

I just want to know, now, so i can put money on, just kidding, who wins this years British Open lol Father Tiger of course ! AMEN

[Ryan Scott]

What baseball player, who played for the Chicago Cubs and ended his career playing for the St. Louis Cardinals, began a 3 generations 'family affair' of professional baseball players? Following him into the sport were his son and his grandson. After playing, he later became a manager for a couple of teams.

I know Buddy Bell (KC Royals Manager) had both his father and son playing the game. Also, Jerry Hairston (maybe still of the Orioles) is a third generation player. Would it be either of those families?

[Chuck Millhuff]

If you're a D.Min student ask one of those bright profs.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

I know Buddy Bell (KC Royals Manager) had both his father and son playing the game. Also, Jerry Hairston (maybe still of the Orioles) is a third generation player. Would it be either of those families?

No.

The Bells, Boones and Hairstons were the three families in my previous post which are all 3 gen'ers but none fit the specs for the one in query. Actually the grandfather (first pro) became manager of only one team and was also president of a league. Sorry about that misleading statement in my initial post.

There are also several families with 2 generations of players but the number is diminshed greatly when considering those with 3 generations.

Okay, Ryan, figure it out (along with Jim) since you love anything competitive. Do it be before it drives you crazy. :basic01

???

[Ryan Scott]

I just went to google to look it up and found something interesting on mlb.com (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061219&content_id=1764099&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb).

I don't get the impression that this is the one you're speaking of either, since it involved his step-father and not his biological father.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

I just went to google to look it up and found something interesting on mlb.com (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061219&content_id=1764099&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb).

I don't get the impression that this is the one you're speaking of either, since it involved his step-father and not his biological father.

Big smiles to you!

No, that is not the one. This is biological - all the way down and they all have the same last name.

Werth's first name, though, does have a bit of a clue in it.

???

[Jim Poteet]

I just want to know, now, so i can put money on, just kidding, who wins this years British Open lol

Ian,

My guess is it will be someone from Europe.

[Jim Poteet]

Big smiles to you!

No, that is not the one. This is biological - all the way down and they all have the same last name.

Werth's first name, though, does have a bit of a clue in it.

???

I give. You have us stumped.

[Jim Poteet]

I don't think I'm going to get this without looking it up.

One more hint. He was on the 1957 Milwaukee Braves. He was a pitcher. He was a backup to Bill Russell on the Boston Celtics and an the time was one of the tallest players in the history of major league baseball.

[Jim Poteet]

If you're a D.Min student ask one of those bright profs.

Chuck,

There are at least 2 families who had 3 brothers play major league baseball. Name the families and each of the brothers names.

[Ryan Scott]

I found an article about Jason Grilli of the Tigers, but he's not really a third generation player. I'm beginning to doubt your question here a little bit.

[Ryan Scott]

One more hint. He was on the 1957 Milwaukee Braves. He was a pitcher. He was a backup to Bill Russell on the Boston Celtics and an the time was one of the tallest players in the history of major league baseball.


Gene Conley. I knew him as a basketball player; I never would have guessed he was the one.

[Ryan Scott]

Chuck,

There are at least 2 families who had 3 brothers play major league baseball. Name the families and each of the brothers names.


Felipe, Matty, and Jesus Alou all played in the same outfield in the late 60's or early 70's.

Didn't Dom and Joe DiMaggio have a brother who played for a while?

[Jim Poteet]

Gene Conley. I knew him as a basketball player; I never would have guessed he was the one.

Ryan,

Correct. He was a decent pitcher in the major leagues with the Braves and Phillies. He was about 6-7. He played several years with the Celtics and usually backed up Bill Russell. He didn't get to play a great deal as Russell spent about 40 minutes on the floor each game.

[Jim Poteet]

Felipe, Matty, and Jesus Alou all played in the same outfield in the late 60's or early 70's.

Didn't Dom and Joe DiMaggio have a brother who played for a while?

Ryan,

Good Job. Yes, Domnic and Joe Dimaggio had an older brother Vince who played a short time in the majors. He was never close to having the skills of his two younger brothers.

[Jim Poteet]

The Piladelphia Phillies had a 3rd baseman by the the name of Willie Jones in the 50's. What was Willie Jones nickname?

[Edith K. Thurmond]

I found an article about Jason Grilli of the Tigers, but he's not really a third generation player. I'm beginning to doubt your question here a little bit.

Well, here goes....

Carl Sawatski - who started it all
John Sawatski - followed in his father's steps but didn't go to the majors
Jay Sawatski - grandson whose career is still unfolding

Carl is deceased; John has his own business; Jay is playing baseball.

[Jim Poteet]

Well, here goes....

Carl Sawatski - who started it all
John Sawatski - followed in his father's steps but didn't go to the majors
Jay Sawatski - grandson whose career is still unfolding

Carl is deceased; John has his own business; Jay is playing baseball.

Good question. You are a winner. Now ask us another question.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Good question. You are a winner. Now ask us another question.

Okay, here goes:

WHAT former major and minor league baseball player, coach and later manager undoubtedly had his life spared by being ejected from a 'famous' game and replaced by one of his player/coaches? The game was already very stress-filled when he inappropriately challenged an ump call. The occasion involved gunfire in the ballpark.

Clues to follow if needed.

???

[Doug Kitchen]

Ryan,

Good guess, but it was not Jackie Robinson. I'll give a hint. He played in the NBA for the Boston Celtics and won several NBA Championships with them. His baseball team won the World Series in the late 50's.

Didn't chuck conners (the rifleman) play for the Celtics? I think I remember pictures of him in a celtic uniform.

Earlier in the thread he was mentioned as having played baseball (and I didn't know that).

In 67 or 68 I got to see bill russell play. ENC & Gordon college used to play once a year at the Boston Garden during half time. In those days, the Celtics didn't sell out.

Doug

[Jim Poteet]

Didn't chuck conners (the rifleman) play for the Celtics? I think I remember pictures of him in a celtic uniform.

Earlier in the thread he was mentioned as having played baseball (and I didn't know that).

In 67 or 68 I got to see bill russell play. ENC & Gordon college used to play once a year at the Boston Garden during half time. In those days, the Celtics didn't sell out.

Doug

Doug,

Chuck Conners did play for the Celtics, but not very much. He played 1 game for the Dodgers and 66 for the Chicago Cubs. He was such a great athlete that he was also drafted by the Chicago Bears of the NFL.

[Jim Poteet]

Chuck,

Here is one for you and your friends.

What member of the Baseball Hall of Fame was also drafted by the the NFL and NBA?

[Jim Poteet]

Okay, here goes:

WHAT former major and minor league baseball player, coach and later manager undoubtedly had his life spared by being ejected from a 'famous' game and replaced by one of his player/coaches? The game was already very stress-filled when he inappropriately challenged an ump call. The occasion involved gunfire in the ballpark.

Clues to follow if needed.

???

Edith,

Your questions are tough. You must give us some hints.

[Monty Stewart]

Chuck,

Here is one for you and your friends.

What member of the Baseball Hall of Fame was also drafted by the the NFL and NBA?
OK, I probably should stay out of a question to another, but it is a public board!:fav18

I just saw Dave Winfield on Best D Sports and I know he was drafted by the NBA, so I am going to guess him.

[Chuck Millhuff]

Chuck,

Here is one for you and your friends.

What member of the Baseball Hall of Fame was also drafted by the the NFL and NBA? Dave Winfield - EASY !

[Monty Stewart]

Dave Winfield - EASY !
I am not going to google, but was Tony Gwynn a multiple sport draftee too?

[Chuck Millhuff]

Which major league baseball park has the deepest left field fence?

[Jim Poteet]

OK, I probably should stay out of a question to another, but it is a public board!:fav18

I just saw Dave Winfield on Best D Sports and I know he was drafted by the NBA, so I am going to guess him.

Right you are.

[Jim Poteet]

Dave Winfield - EASY !

I can't believe it. You answered one right.

See if you can answer this one.

What Kansas University basketball coaches won NCAA National Championships?

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Edith,

Your questions are tough. You must give us some hints.

Smiles to you while remembering you asked Chuck for tougher questions.

HINTS:

* He was manager of the Red Wings when this "gunfire in the ballpark" game was played.
* He had a 50 year career in baseball as player (pitcher), pitching coach, manager, and other positions. Twenty of those years were spent as a player and 30 in coaching and management.
* He was named for his hair color.

???

[Jim Poteet]

Which major league baseball park has the deepest left field fence?

Knowing that you are a Cubs fan, I must say Wrigley Field.

[Jim Poteet]

Smiles to you while remembering you asked Chuck for tougher questions.

HINTS:

* He was manager of the Red Wings when this "gunfire in the ballpark" game was played.
* He had a 50 year career in baseball as player (pitcher), pitching coach, manager, and other positions. Twenty of those years were spent as a player and 30 in coaching and management.
* He was named for his hair color.

???

Edith,

I narrowed the answer to one of two players. Both were named for their hair color. Red Schoendinst and Cot Deal. However, Red was never a pitcher and I know that Cot is from Oklahoma City and was a pitcher and outfielder. So I am going with Cot Deal. Am I right. Give the details of the "gunfire in the Park" game, please.

[Jim Franklin]

What Phillies player was shot by a love-lorn woman in Chicago?

[Jim Franklin]

Jones' nickname was "Puddin head."

[Jim Poteet]

What Phillies player was shot by a love-lorn woman in Chicago?

Jim,

Eddie Waitkus of the Piladelphia Phillies, the 1950 "Whiz Kids." He was the 1st baseman.

Maybe you missed the question I asked earlier. What was Phillie 3rd baseman Willie Jones nickname?

[Jim Poteet]

Jones' nickname was "Puddin head."

Jim,

Right on. Interestingly, no one seems to know the origin of the nickname "Puddin head."

[Jim Poteet]

The Brooklyn Dodgers had an outfielder named George Shuba. What was his nickname.

[Jim Franklin]

I remember being told that Freddie Pawtek of the KC Royals became a Nazarene and Don Cockroft, kicker for the old Cleveland Browns enrolled at Nazarene Bible College after he retired. I remember meeting him in Bethany First Church.

[Jim Franklin]

The White Sox had a winning streak of 21 games, what year was it?

[Jim Franklin]

Whose nickname was "Old Aches and Pains?" He played for the White Sox. Even though that might as well be my nickname at present.

[Jim Poteet]

I remember being told that Freddie Pawtek of the KC Royals became a Nazarene and Don Cockroft, kicker for the old Cleveland Browns enrolled at Nazarene Bible College after he retired. I remember meeting him in Bethany First Church.

Jim,

Patek is the correct spelling of Freddie's name. I used to do Fellowship of Christian Athletes camps with Cockroft. I wonder what he is doing today. I'm still interested in knowing Fred Minton's baseball name.

[Jim Franklin]

Easy one. Which team had a popular saying, "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain." Thought this would fit into a Nazarene forum.

[Wesley Smith]

Red Shoendist?

[Jim Franklin]

Who was it and what team did he play for who was called "Preacher."

[Wesley Smith]

Milwaukee Brewers? Warren Spahn

[Jim Franklin]

There was another Jones with the nickname "Deacon." Who did he play for?

[Jim Poteet]

Whose nickname was "Old Aches and Pains?" He played for the White Sox. Even though that might as well be my nickname at present.

Jim,

It was Luke Appling of the White Sox. I believe he was a shortstop.

[Jim Poteet]

Easy one. Which team had a popular saying, "Spahn and Sain and pray for rain." Thought this would fit into a Nazarene forum.

The Boston Braves

[Jim Franklin]

Actually, Wes, it was the Boston Braves before they moved to Milwaukee.

[Jim Poteet]

Who was it and what team did he play for who was called "Preacher."

Edwin "Preacher" Roe, Brooklyn Dodgers

[Jim Poteet]

There was another Jones with the nickname "Deacon." Who did he play for?

"Deacon" Jones played Defensive line for the Los Angeles Rams Fearsome Foursome.

[Jim Franklin]

Who was the batboy for the Detroit Tigers when Harvey Kuene(sp) and Al Kaline were the star players?

[Jim Poteet]

Who was the batboy for the Detroit Tigers when Harvey Kuene and Al Kaline were the star players?

Now you are really digging for trivia. Was it Steve Garvey? He was from Michigan.

[Jim Poteet]

The White Sox had a winning streak of 21 games, what year was it?

Jim,

I don't know, but I am going to guess that it was in the 1880's or 1890's. This would have been during the "dead ball" era.

[Jim Franklin]

My good friend whom the administrator and I hired to coach at SVIS, Coach Zelinski. I believe I emailed to you about him during 2003-2004 school year. He had gone on to play basketball and became a BB coach at Bristol College in Bristol, Tennesee and then Northern Pioneer Community College at Holbrook, AZ before a stroke took him down. His teams were nationally ranked at both schools. We hired him as his first step back into the coaching ranks and he did a good job for us at SVIS.

[Jim Franklin]

The White Sox winning streak was during the time I lived in Gary, Indiana 1948-50 and I believe it was 1949 but in researching White Sox history I can not find it.

[Jim Franklin]

A next door neighbor of mine in Fargo, ND 1945-48 was three years younger than I during our elementary school years and he really loved sports. His older brother bought him a full set of catcher's gear before there was such a thing as Little League in Fargo. When an article came out in Reader's Digest about Bob Feller he requested that I read it to him at least three times. One day he declared that he hoped that some day he would play baseball well enough to play in the World Series or football well enough to play in the Rose Bowl. After our family left Fargo for Indiana I did not hear of him until I saw him pictured as the starting left halfback for the Golden Gophers of the University of Minnesota to play in the Rose Bowl in both 1961 and 62. Who were the Golden Gophers opponents?

His name was David Mulholland.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Edith,

I narrowed the answer to one of two players. Both were named for their hair color. Red Schoendinst and Cot Deal. However, Red was never a pitcher and I know that Cot is from Oklahoma City and was a pitcher and outfielder. So I am going with Cot Deal. Am I right. Give the details of the "gunfire in the Park" game, please.

Correct! I knew the hair color naming would give it away. Red was once a teammate of Cot's. The 50 year career span probably helped too.

It was July, 1959 and Fidel had been in power about 6 months and the people in Cuba were making transitions of all sorts; instability and unrest still were the watchwords in the island at that time - along with unbridled celebration by many honoring this new government. The Red Wings were playing in Havana opposite the Sugar Kings and the game was in the 11th inning when Cot challenged the 3rd base ump and then, gave him a visual that resulted in his being ejected from the game. Cot replace himself with Frank Verdi in the 3rd base coaching box who was still wearing his protective batting liner inside his cap. As the 12th inning commenced, gunfire erupted inside the stadium and a Sugar Kings player was hit in the shoulder. Frank Verdi was also hit and the bullet, which passed through his cap, deflected off the batting liner, through his earlobe and then off his shoulder - barely injuring him.

The game was immediately suspended and the Red Wings, led by Cot, left for home the next day. Had Cot remained in the game, without a batting liner, a different fate would have resulted. Cot realized this more and more as time went on. Cot resigned a very short while after this and accepted a job as pitching coach with the Cinncinnati Reds. Getting ejected from that game in Havana was decidedly a very good thing for him that night!

[Jim Poteet]

A next door neighbor of mine in Fargo, ND 1945-48 was three years younger than I during our elementary school years and he really loved sports. His older brother bought him a full set of catcher's gearbefore there was such a thing as Little League in Fargo. When an article came out in Reader's Digest about Bob Feller he requested that I read it to him at least three times. One day he declared that he hoped that some day he would play baseball well enough to play in the World Series or football well enough to play in the Rose Bowl. After our family left Fargo for Indiana I did not hear of him until I saw him pictured as the starting left halfback for the Golden Gophers of the University of Minnesota to play in the Rose Bowl in both 1961 and 62. Who were the Golden Gophers opponents?

The 1961 Rose Bowl was Minnesota versus the University of Washington and their one-eyed quarterback Bob Schroledt. The 1962 Rose Bowl was UCLA versus Minnesota. I wass in college at Pasadena College during that time and always worked building Rose Parade floats and selling merchandise at the Rose Parade.

Now for my question. In the 1961 Rose Bowl, what practical joke was played on the University of Washington student section during the nationally televised half-time show?

[Jim Poteet]

The White Sox winning streak was during the time I lived in Gary, Indiana 1948-50 and I believe it was 1949 but in researching White Sox history I can not find it.

I think you might find they had a long winning streak that streched over the end of one season and into the following season.

[Gina Stevenson]

Hey! I remember this guy when he was playing with the Suns ... while I was living out there. What did Danny Ainge do after he played with the Suns?

The only person I can think of who might have been on winning teams in both baseball and basketball is Danny Ainge. I didn't think he won in baseball though (wasn't he on the Blue Jays?).

I know both Dave Winfield and Tony Gwynn were drafted into both leagues, but I didn't think either one played basketball.

[Ryan Scott]

What did Danny Ainge do after he played with the Suns?

Danny Ainge did some TV commentating for a while and then coaches the Suns for two season with great success. He left to spend more time with his family and has recently returned as General Manager of the Celtics to continue the ruination of a once great franchise.

[Ryan Scott]

Now for my question. In the 1961 Rose Bowl, what practical joke was played on the University of Washington student section during the nationally televised half-time show?

Was that the first incarnation of giving the student section placards to hold up which spelled out the name of the opposing school? I know this has happened a number of times recently, most notably between Harvard and Yale.

[Chuck Millhuff]

I can't believe it. You answered one right.

See if you can answer this one.

What Kansas University basketball coaches won NCAA National Championships?Can't think this morning but I know. There were 4 I believe.