the horrible children of sin

[Carsten Schermuly]

As you might know, since about one year I know about my AD(H)S or ADD. I am member of two forums as meeting points of onliner selfhelping groups. One of this forums offers many more place for other groups, related groups like border line or Alzheimer.

I met a 35 aged kind man, a bit shy, very sensible, playing as hobby harpsichord and we talked about music, especially spiritually music by composers like Schütz, Bach or Handel.
He told me during the last days his life story.
He is a victim of the Tourette syndrome, he gets cramps, shouts out very louidly alot of dirty words - uncontrolled - against his will.
There is more - phantasies - dirty and sick - oh my goodness!

When he was little boy, his father misused him. He can not (will not) remind to details, there is a large and tighten nebula over some preschool years.
Do we wonder about the phenomene homosexuality (of both genders)? He is totally desorientated. His needing is love like love is a basic needing of everybody. He had some girls connections, but they are all broken because his tic, at least he found a friend. Now his yearning for love is covered.

What a story! It makes me very bad.
He is so intelligent, kind and polite and uses an absolutely correct language.

There is no other way as the way with Jesus Christ!
I have listened to such stories more - but this was the most detailled and most impressive for me.
It seems me now as a must
for people to stay healthy to follow Jesus Christ as an absolutely needing. It is not the better choice, done by free will - it is the only one choice, there is no other choice.

This story teaches also how much handicupped are isolated.
Opening church doors, family doors for handicupped - in the holy name of Jesus Christ?

[Carsten Schermuly]

What do you think is his favorite literature? Henry Miller.
He told me why - without my question, I count the answer up on my fingers.
Reading the books, he leads off his unsatisfied yearning for a happy sexuality.
How he ever should come out of that circle of horror?


Correcture - the word literature

[Audrey Hanson]

Recovery from sexual abuse is possible. I'm living/walking proof. I was molested by a family friend from earliest childhood (around age 2, I think) until he died when I was almost 8. It happened several times a week for all those years. I did have physical symptoms, most noteably being unable to urinate and requiring hospitalization for catheterization periodically. No one ever asked me about it, though. And no doctors ever picked up on it. I also had nightmares, night terrors, and many fears.

My mom discovered all this when I was 15 by reading my diary. By that time, I was shy, anorexic, and so afraid of boys that I wouldn't even go to a high school dance. Her reaction was to label me "evil" and "deranged" and to tell my teachers, family members, and others that I was cooking up horrible stories about a loving, caring, family man who had loved me and cared for me during much of my childhood.

It was hard. I almost didn't live through it.

But, God reached down and, somehow, put my feet on solid ground. He gave me loving people to substitute as family. He gave me a loving husband. He healed me through pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding, showing me what my body was really for, in a healthy way. And He healed my soul and held me in His arms whenever I couldn't stand alone. For my part, I just turned away every memory, thought, and fantasy that I knew were wrong, giving them go God whenever they hit. It sounds simplistic, but in reality, it was kind of hard. But, I ended up with compassion for my mom, for the man who molested me, and for my father who didn't protect me from his friend.

Now, I can be grateful that it did happen because I have been able to help so many other people, also victims of this, over the years. I can't imagine what my life would be without this experience. It has made me who I am today, in so many ways.

God truly can bring good out of the ashes.

Just my quick thoughts. I'll pray for your friend and please share my story with him. God bless.

[Hans Deventer]

Thank you for your testimony, Audrey. I can't even pretend to understand, but I see a miracle of grace in you. Thank you for showing Christ.

[Sharon Isley]

I too have lived through it, and recovery is not an easy process, but it is possible through Christ. I've learned though that healing doesn't mean that all the struggles are gone. There are some things I may always have to deal with, much like Paul did. But through God's grace I am doing well. A good Christian therapist would be helpful for this man. I hope he can find one. God can heal without help, of course. But a therapist does help you face issues that seem to be far too painful to deal with by yourself.

Sin is a horrible thing, because it destroys people - both the guilty and the innocent. Its sad to see what it can do, but through Christ we can be more than conquerors.

[Carsten Schermuly]

Thank you!
What a great answer!

I liked to say so many things. It is a very heart moving theme.

But
all what is needed to say, you have said already.



He healed my soul and held me in His arms whenever I couldn't stand alone.



You told me, to tell your blessed experiences. For sure, I do. It meets exactly what I think. Once I met at Berlin a man, confessed, Jesus Christ made him free from homosexuality. It is a very wealthy and rare goldpiece - such a testimony. Most of them do not like to talk about, ashamed by their past. Thinking, they could be misunderstood - or still identified as homosexual - against their testimony.
And
there is another one, a Lady, burdened by another problem - and a result is also a broken health, on mind and body. This phrase I quoted, were the right medicine for her.
By the way - this phrase could be words from a song.
It is the essence of the essence (essence in potence) of the bible.

Thank you so much!



It was hard. I almost didn't live through it.



You know that. I know that. I have seen as a child also in nights the spirits of darkness in my children room, awaked after hard dreams in deepest anciesties (just because another reason, I think, it was spiritism) - night by night.
He shall know that. He did not say, he almost did not alive, but as we might know, his experiences could not be far away from others experiences in similar difficulties.



He gave me a loving husband. He healed me through pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding, showing me what my body was really for, in a healthy way.



An important detail.
Against my feeling I go the way of normality, trusting in the Lords help.
At least I see - I am able to live a life of normality.
Bartimäus followed Jesus to wash his eyes. He often before did wash his face and eyes - without to be healed. But after the Lords word this simple act healed.

Thank you. I love you.

[Carsten Schermuly]

I too have lived through it, and recovery is not an easy process, but it is possible through Christ.



Thank you!
This is the point - "it is possible through Christ".
It is our place to trust in or not to trust in.



I've learned though that healing doesn't mean that all the struggles are gone. There are some things I may always have to deal with, much like Paul did. But through God's grace I am doing well.



I have watched, on this globe nobody is really healthy. It is impossible. Everybody has his own personally health problem. To be able to walk upright and not to be weak and have to lay in bed must not mean to be healthy. So we never can pause to pray for another.
I love you.



A good Christian therapist would be helpful for this man. I hope he can find one. God can heal without help, of course. But a therapist does help you face issues that seem to be far too painful to deal with by yourself.



Right - no doubts. But - it needs A to look for a christian therapist. It needs B to follow the words of it once it is found a christian therapist.



Sin is a horrible thing, because it destroys people - both the guilty and the innocent. Its sad to see what it can do, but through Christ we can be more than conquerors.



Hope and Love we should never give up.

Thank you!


Correcture

I forgot - he has seen several times a psychiatric hospital because his Tourette Syndrome. They lifted up after some years (no idea, it could be five years or more) of talking therapies the reason - the abuse.
Now
we know physicians. They are alreasy satisfied, once a symptom is gone. They gave him medicaments against his Tourette Syndrome - and they helped. At present he must shout out dirty words and will get cramps very rearely - as he told, about one times a month.

The Symptome is gone - nearby fully.
Therapy got a victory?

No.

The reason still exists. It is only covered by chemical help - it is not taken away, it is just taken off its power, it is hidden.

To take it off no human can do.
The Lord can take it off, the Lord can heal - but a therapist (christian therapist or worldly therapist does not matter) can not.

[Carsten Schermuly]

Sharon told



Sin is a horrible thing, because it destroys people - both the guilty and the innocent.



Let me split it.
Sin destroys the guilty.
Sin destroys the innocent.

Sin destroys the innocent.
About this I could become crazy. I have seen too much hardnesses.

[Carsten Schermuly]

Sin destroys the guilty.

After Hosea it is our place also to love them.

[Sharon Isley]

I do agree that healing has to come from God, not a therapist. And there are far too many doctors out there who want to treat symptoms only, and the cause still remains, only causing more problems.

A therapist for me was not someone who cured me. He was a guide. He taught me coping skills that I needed, when the flashbacks or panic got too bad. He helped me see how I could apply God's truth to my personal situation. It was personal, practical help as I let God heal.

By a therapist, I don't mean a physician. I went to a psychologist. It made a huge difference, and I'm so thankful I did it. I had multiple abusers, over the first 12 years of my life, including both sexes. Damage like that, at such an early age, is very hard to overcome without help from someone well trained. Of course God can heal without such help. But I think that this is why God put us in communities - to help each other grow and heal.

I agree totally, about the effects of sin on the innocent. Its heartbreaking.

[Carsten Schermuly]

Thank you for your kind answer.



And there are far too many doctors out there who want to treat symptoms only, and the cause still remains, only causing more problems.



This the way of the world - it is not the way out, it is just a bad way in another direction, it makes the diameter of the circle of horror only a bit wider. A tragedy.



A therapist for me was not someone who cured me. He was a guide.



This must be understroken.
The difference between a worldly therapist and the christian therapist is, the christian therapist is blessed to know the only one solution.



By a therapist, I don't mean a physician. I went to a psychologist. It made a huge difference, and I'm so thankful I did it.



As a layman and not involved, I can not and I will not take influence on any decision. It is an individual question. I only can and I will and I do point to Jesus Christ.



I had multiple abusers, over the first 12 years of my life, including both sexes. Damage like that, at such an early age, is very hard to overcome without help from someone well trained.



Right.
I do never say "do this or do that" in psycho matters. It is not my profession.

Only one thing, "pray" - "Go down on your knees, turn your mind and heart to the Lord. He is waiting for you. He loves you.".

In some cases it is better to be quiet in general - and to talk only to the Lord. I remember to people, must grow up in a parents home, too strictly in faith questions - they were mind sick by religious phenomenes. In face of such a problem I am extreme helpless.
It needs sensibility not to close a door.




Of course God can heal without such help. But I think that this is why God put us in communities - to help each other grow and heal.



- and -
see NazNet. I am very thanksfull for this blessed meeting point.



I agree totally, about the effects of sin on the innocent. Its heartbreaking.



At least there will come the day of totally rehabilitation, the day of Glory.
In the meantime we do sing what Audrey has said, it is so a wonderful phrase,



He healed my soul and held me in His arms whenever I couldn't stand alone.

[Carsten Schermuly]

I do not like to leave a wrong impression.
I am not one penny more worth than the violators.
I live only because I found grace - following the Law by God, given through Mose, I had to be killed more than one, two, three dozend times.