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Michael B. Ross
13th October 2007, 12:09 PM (12:09)
A couple of my students informed me that Microsoft is offering MS Office 2007 to college students at a tremendous discount. For only $60.00, students can purchase Office Ultimate, which includes Access, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Publisher, Accounting Express, Info, Groove and OneNote!
I think this package normally sells for over $500. One only needs an email address ending in .edu. They also may be spot checking eligibility.
The $60.00 is for a download, and a CD can be purchased for $13.00 more. Both allow 2 installs, presumably one for desktop and one for laptop.
I hope this will help you or someone you know save some money.
I also can confidently say that the momentum is building toward requiring students to have 2007.
Here is the link: http://www.theultimatesteal.com/home.asp
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 12:53 PM (12:53)
A couple of my students informed me that Microsoft is offering MS Office 2007 to college students at a tremendous discount.
Why Microsoft does?
The desire is not to help people with small budget.
The desire is to bind them early. Later students become professors and shall recommend to their students what wonderfull software to use.
How noble!
It is a lie. It is dirty marketing.
My mind,
never trust Microsoft,
never trust Mr. Gates or one of his honourable partners.
What can Microsoft Software do - what OpenOffice could not?
OpenOffice is free - not only one penny to pay for.
http://www.openoffice.org/sitemap.html
What system to use is a question of decency.
Michael B. Ross
13th October 2007, 01:12 PM (13:12)
Carsten, you may be right. It also may be their attempt to make some money off what will be pirated by many students. Of course, I did not say Microsoft was trying to be noble or generous.
But, the fact remains that the University where I teach has installed 07 on the computers of all professors and staff. Very soon it will be required not only at AU, but also in hundreds of universities across the country and around the world. That may not be right, but that is the way it is. In fact, I now require all my students to submit papers as either a .doc or .docx file attached to emails. Someday, I will accept only .docx.
My intent was to save some students or their parents some money. I guess I could have not posted this opportunity and let some pay $500, but I thought it would be better if they could buy the program for much less.
But, be assured, I do not get a kickback from MS or from Digital River who is the downloading agent.
Why Microsoft does?
The desire is not to help people with small budget.
The desire is to bind them early. Later students become professors and shall recommend to their students what wonderfull software to use.
How noble!
It is a lie. It is dirty marketing.
My mind,
never trust Microsoft,
never trust Mr. Gates or one of his honourable partners.
What can Microsoft Software do - what OpenOffice could not?
OpenOffice is free - not only one penny to pay for.
http://www.openoffice.org/sitemap.html
What system to use is a question of decency.
Gina Stevenson
13th October 2007, 01:40 PM (13:40)
Now it makes me feel ill that I was off-line long enough when first back in MI to LOSE my AU Aztec mailbox [an .EDU, as required]. It was I had to use out west for years ... text only. BUT, it worked well. In fact, I kept trying to ask them to let me back in to pick up ALL my old stored mail, and files, that were in AZTEC that I couldn't get to on my own.
Nope! More than six months had passed without a sign-in, and so ............. tried at the library before I got myself fixed up at home, but they had such sites blocked [different entry than normal http:// sites; can't think of it now, tho']. Oh, well ................... ;)
Would love this, tho', updating my old 98 Publisher, because if I do anymore layout for anyone [was helping with a newsletter regularly back in Phoenix], I'm sure they won't be 1998 compatible! :( Again, oh well ..................
Maybe it would be cheaper to sign up for a class somewhere and then get this, than to pay the $500 Mike Ross spoke of ... let's see ... what could I use as a brush-up class, eh? ;)
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 02:09 PM (14:09)
Microsoft made an offer to the german Parliament Bundestag at Berlin.
The Bundestag is for Germany the same like the Congress in Washington D. C. for the United States.
Microsoft got a contract to write programs to make gouvernments work simplier and more transparent for the using persons.
There was no other softwarehouse could make a similar offer.
Since Microsoft was the only one company that did bid, Microsoft got the contract.
What does that mean?
To save money in future? Yes - for sure.
It does also mean, to save workplaces, to get more jobless people.
It does also mean, to make this man eating Moloch Microsoft stronger and stronger.
Blind and stupid german Bundestag!
After this they got my deepest misrespect as confused and mislead.
Microsoft does speed up "the glass made mankind". As we do know, it is an important part of the end.
Microsoft has delivered hundreds of facts to be an institution of lies and crime. To steal patents and copyrights was their sickness in the past and is their sickness in future. Microsoft ruined the life of hundreds, of thousands of self employeed software authors.
In the beginning the circle of lying people naturally was small - since little Billy Gates was an 18aged student, working on old IBM - engines in his daddies garage, developed a two frame DOS shell (that was not his own idea - but he was the one, that could sell it).
Whatever is needed - look never for a solution that Microsoft does offer!
NEVER!
It means to make common business with criminals.
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 02:39 PM (14:39)
Men are helpless. On one side we hate automation as lost of workplaces, on the other side we have no choice as to do the same - or we have no chance on markets. We are sitting in the same boat - seen in all relations, nature, industries, politics, education, health etc etc etc
Our help comes from Golgotha. We can await future in peace.
But
what do the others, do not know, help does come from Golgotha?
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 02:48 PM (14:48)
Would love this, tho', updating my old 98 Publisher, because if I do anymore layout for anyone [was helping with a newsletter regularly back in Phoenix], I'm sure they won't be 1998 compatible! :( Again, oh well ..................
Maybe it would be cheaper to sign up for a class somewhere and then get this, than to pay the $500 Mike Ross spoke of ... let's see ... what could I use as a brush-up class, eh? ;)The elder MS Publisher Versions have been not compatible to any other program. There was an "one and only" - way to convert Publishers *.pub files by a program, made by Adobe. Once Upon A Time I tried to convert *.pub files, but have given up. The new Publisher should be compatible to all other MS - Programs. That means, I guess, you can not update without to buy the new version for a higher price as you could buy before updates for the elder Publisher.
Since I do not use Microsoft - Programs (except I have no other solution like Windows 2000, I use at present) I am not sure, I am correct. This is what I have read about some weeks ago.
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 03:01 PM (15:01)
There have been more different Versions of Publisher.
See WikiPedia english
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Publisher
After that, it seems me, your Publisher version will be no more supported (you can no more get an update for it).
Carsten Schermuly
13th October 2007, 03:14 PM (15:14)
Maybe it would be cheaper to sign up for a class somewhere and then get this, than to pay the $500 Mike Ross spoke of ... let's see ... what could I use as a brush-up class, eh? ;)You only do need an eMailaddress ending by "edu". Once you do know a friend on any highschool, ask this friend to be allowed to use her / his eMailaddress. Try the order. Maybe there is a control bound on the end users license agreement EULA, will identify you not as a true highschool member - than the try was senseless.
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I know, you do have the right sight.
Once the one is a cheater (MS) does not mean to be allowed also to cheat - äh - to cheat back.
Rules for children of the Lord are written in the bible, not in Microsofts EULA.
Hal Paul
14th October 2007, 02:46 PM (14:46)
Why Microsoft does?
The desire is not to help people with small budget.
The desire is to bind them early. Later students become professors and shall recommend to their students what wonderfull software to use.
How noble!
It is a lie. It is dirty marketing.
My mind,
never trust Microsoft,
never trust Mr. Gates or one of his honourable partners.
What can Microsoft Software do - what OpenOffice could not?
OpenOffice is free - not only one penny to pay for.
http://www.openoffice.org/sitemap.html
What system to use is a question of decency.
My son refuses to use any Microsoft software if he can find something else that works, even if it is discounted and I offer to buy it for him. He has been using OpenOffice for a couple years. It has an option to save documents as .doc in MS office versions 6.0/95/97/2000/XP. It also has an option that you can select during installation that allows you to make OpenOffice the default software for opening all MS Office documents. So far he has had no problems with compatibility when he has been required to turn in a soft copy of a paper he has written.
Ron Davis
15th October 2007, 10:44 AM (10:44)
The Microsoft licensing that accompanies the discount is only good for as long as you are a student. When you graduate the license expires. It is still a good deal for students though.
Ron Davis
15th October 2007, 10:46 AM (10:46)
My son refuses to use any Microsoft software if he can find something else that works, even if it is discounted and I offer to buy it for him. He has been using OpenOffice for a couple years. It has an option to save documents as .doc in MS office versions 6.0/95/97/2000/XP. It also has an option that you can select during installation that allows you to make OpenOffice the default software for opening all MS Office documents. So far he has had no problems with compatibility when he has been required to turn in a soft copy of a paper he has written.
Open Office is a good alternative to MS Office however most of the corporate world is still tied to Microsoft.
Charlene Clevenger
15th October 2007, 10:50 AM (10:50)
Thanks, Michael. I'll see if my son could use it.
Carsten Schermuly
15th October 2007, 11:06 AM (11:06)
The Microsoft licensing that accompanies the discount is only good for as long as you are a student. When you graduate the license expires. It is still a good deal for students though.Once you could have an Audi for free, why you want to pay for a BMW 50 thousand?
A license will not been touched. The offer is done to make you think friendly about Microsoft. The well educated upper classes are the software market target group from tommorrow. Alot of them will work in leading positions and will decide what systems to buy - in education, in trade, in sciences - everywhere.
Do you not see the bad trick in this offer?
Best were for Microsoft once we do sell our own kids to Microsoft by a parents contract "only Microsoft for lifetime and nothing else".
Carsten Schermuly
15th October 2007, 11:09 AM (11:09)
The term Microsoft is identic with the term crime.
The best low price offer can not change that.
I wonder why christians can not differ or will not differ.
They should have a correct sight for Good and Bad.
Hans Deventer
15th October 2007, 11:15 AM (11:15)
The term Microsoft is identical with the term crime.
I think Microsoft is a great example of where too much power in the hands of one company leads to. In my view, we should not have one company that both creates the operating system and the software that runs on it. The company should be divided and the application software part should get as much (or probably better, as little) information on the OS as 3rd parties get.
I'm glad the European Commission does something. I fear it isn't enough by far.
Hal Paul
15th October 2007, 11:15 AM (11:15)
Open Office is a good alternative to MS Office however most of the corporate world is still tied to Microsoft.
Yes the most of the corporate world is tied to Microsoft, but if the kid is trying to save money, and the liscence agreement expires when the kid leaves school, why not use sharware if it is compatable with whatever the prof is stuck with? Also, OpenOffice functions are similar enough to MS Office that it isn't a difficult transition between the two.
Gina Stevenson
15th October 2007, 11:27 AM (11:27)
Yes the most of the corporate world is tied to Microsoft, but if the kid is trying to save money, and the liscence agreement expires when the kid leaves school, why not use sharware if it is compatable with whatever the prof is stuck with? Also, OpenOffice functions are similar enough to MS Office that it isn't a difficult transition between the two.
Did at one time give Open Office an honest try [meaning over & over & over again, until I just had to go back to Office Word] ... it probably is fine for smaller documents. The thing I was having a problem with was this 450+ page book manuscript I was editing. Didn't seem to be made for huge projects. But I can imagine, since it would seem to be OK between having to deal with the entire manuscript, that it would be more than adequate for most college papers, etc.
Michael B. Ross
15th October 2007, 11:27 AM (11:27)
Carsten, I get the feeling you are not a fan of Microsoft, or is it just my imagination. :) Seriously, I share some of your concerns.
I do think, however, that you cross the line when you "wonder why Christians cannot differ or will not differ" and may not have a "correct sight for Good and Bad." Your statement indicates to me that you are not objectively reading some of the posts in this thread.
For many, using MS Office is not an option. I wish every business, school and organization used some form of freeware, but I don't know of any who do. I know only 1-2 individuals who do not use MS Office. It is, to use an old cliche, a necessary evil.
I personally would appreciate your not de-christianizing me for using MS.
The term Microsoft is identic with the term crime.
The best low price offer can not change that.
I wonder why christians can not differ or will not differ.
They should have a correct sight for Good and Bad.
Michael B. Ross
15th October 2007, 11:32 AM (11:32)
Hal, you have a good point, and I think you are right to a point. There are some assignments for which OpenOffice might be fine. There are many others, however, that require MS Office.
Yes the most of the corporate world is tied to Microsoft, but if the kid is trying to save money, and the liscence agreement expires when the kid leaves school, why not use sharware if it is compatable with whatever the prof is stuck with? Also, OpenOffice functions are similar enough to MS Office that it isn't a difficult transition between the two.
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