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Ian Gentles
August 4th, 2010, 03:13 PM
Always wanted to taste it, but cant get it here in UK, is it really good? Let me know folks!
Mike Schutz
August 4th, 2010, 04:15 PM
When it is done correctly it is delicious. However, most New Englanders cringe for the poor imitations that pass for it.
Think of the national or regional foods that you like and that you know exactly how they should taste. Now imagine if they are made with different or inferior ingredients. That is what happens with many traditional, regional foods. Today I was at a restaurant that was serving "Shepherd's Pie." I'm certain that if you were to taste it, you would not recognize it.
I am originally from Maryland, on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay. My area is known for the seafood that comes from the bay, especially the blue crabs. The most famous delicacy is the crab cakes. However, most Marylanders are greatly offended by what passes as "Maryland crab cakes" in many places.
You could make a reasonable New England clam chowder with ingredients that you can get in England.
Ian Gentles
August 5th, 2010, 05:03 PM
When it is done correctly it is delicious. However, most New Englanders cringe for the poor imitations that pass for it.
Think of the national or regional foods that you like and that you know exactly how they should taste. Now imagine if they are made with different or inferior ingredients. That is what happens with many traditional, regional foods. Today I was at a restaurant that was serving "Shepherd's Pie." I'm certain that if you were to taste it, you would not recognize it.
I am originally from Maryland, on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay. My area is known for the seafood that comes from the bay, especially the blue crabs. The most famous delicacy is the crab cakes. However, most Marylanders are greatly offended by what passes as "Maryland crab cakes" in many places.
You could make a reasonable New England clam chowder with ingredients that you can get in England.
Know what you mean about goods prepared by others. The scottish Haggis can be delicious when a good butcher makes them, but store bough are, well just not haggis.
What does, real
New England chowder taste like, what is its ingrediants?
Mike Schutz
August 5th, 2010, 08:17 PM
The basic ingredients are clams, clam broth, heavy cream, butter, potatoes and onions. Most recipes also include some bacon, garlic, and celery.
Dennis M. Scott
August 5th, 2010, 09:45 PM
Some of the best New England Clam Chowder is made right here in Windham, New Hampshire, in our kitchen. Linda's a great cook. Her oyster stew is great, too.
Ian, stop by sometime, and I'll see if Linda can get some ready.
John Reilly
August 5th, 2010, 09:57 PM
Some of the best New England Clam Chowder is made right here in Windham, New Hampshire, in our kitchen. Linda's a great cook. Her oyster stew is great, too.
Ian, stop by sometime, and I'll see if Linda can get some ready.
Everyone is invited to Dennis' house for chowder. I'll bring the oyster crackers.
Mike Schutz
August 5th, 2010, 10:49 PM
I'll be on campus a week from this coming Monday, Dennis. Have Linda bring some to her office. Looking forward to it. I love New England hospitality. ;-)
Hal Paul
August 6th, 2010, 03:20 PM
Know what you mean about goods prepared by others. The scottish Haggis can be delicious when a good butcher makes them, but store bough are, well just not haggis.
What does, real
New England chowder taste like, what is its ingrediants?
New England chowder is like potato soup with clams.
Roland Hearn
August 7th, 2010, 12:34 AM
The best New England Clam Chowder I've ever had were on the docks in a sour dough bowel in San Fransisco. As I have never been to the east coast I can only speak for the west coast options. Of them SF ones were really good, plus you could eat the bowl when you were done.
Dennis M. Scott
August 7th, 2010, 06:10 AM
Everyone is invited to Dennis' house for chowder. I'll bring the oyster crackers.
I marvel at the social skill quality of some naznetters.
Dennis M. Scott
August 7th, 2010, 06:12 AM
New England chowder is like potato soup with clams.
The best potato soup is like New England clam chowder without the clams.
Ian Gentles
August 7th, 2010, 02:19 PM
My mouth is watering reading this thread :)
Doug Kitchen
August 7th, 2010, 06:30 PM
I marvel at the social skill quality of some naznetters.
and he said it wrong too!!!
It's chowdah.
You can tell when you have great chowdah - each bowl clogs an artery.
For Ian: Don't confuse New England Clam Chowdah with Manhattan clam chowder. Manhattan style usually has tomato, is watery and generally contains some other healthy ingredients. Good Chowdah has white-high carb potato, cream and very large pieces of clam. Mike may be right about the bacon - onion for sure but not enough to brag to your doctor about.
Doug
Katelynn Scott
August 13th, 2010, 04:59 PM
Amen to Mike's statement about eating a food where it's regionally known. I tried some "crab cakes" at a Mimi's Cafe in Kansas (what was I thinking?!?!?!). They tasted like old socks! My food advice: go the distance and eat the food where it's best!
Wayne Paul
August 13th, 2010, 05:46 PM
I've eaten some very good New England style Clam Chowder in the Puget Sound. Back in the late 1970s the Sandpiper restaurant in Silverdale, WA served chowder made using local calms. It was excellent. (Yes, it had white potatoes, cream, large hunks of clams, butter, bacon, onions, etc.)
Hal Paul
August 14th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I've eaten some very good New England style Clam Chowder in the Puget Sound. Back in the late 1970s the Sandpiper restaurant in Silverdale, WA served chowder made using local calms. It was excellent. (Yes, it had white potatoes, cream, large hunks of clams, butter, bacon, onions, etc.)
The Sandpiper's chowder pretty much set the standard for me. "Chowdah" in New England, measures up.
Susan Unger
August 14th, 2010, 11:11 AM
There are other kinds of Clam Chowder as well such as Rhode Island Clam Chowder. Wikipedia has an interesting article about it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clam_chowder
Hal Paul
August 14th, 2010, 11:53 AM
There are other kinds of Clam Chowder as well such as Rhode Island Clam Chowder. Wikipedia has an interesting article about it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clam_chowder
But, none of the other "chowders" measures up to NEC, so why bother?
Kazimiera Fraley
August 14th, 2010, 12:19 PM
I marvel at the social skill quality of some naznetters.
Does this mean if I drove the 45 mins North that there would or would not be clam chowder for dinner? ;)
John Reilly
August 14th, 2010, 08:04 PM
At the NAZNET retreat we could have competition between Schutz clam chowda and Scott clam choudah. I will bring the oyster crackers.
Kazimiera Fraley
August 14th, 2010, 08:16 PM
At the NAZNET retreat we could have competition between Schutz clam chowda and Scott clam choudah. I will bring the oyster crackers.
can I be a judge? (anything for free clam chowder - anyway you spell it ;) )
Dennis M. Scott
August 14th, 2010, 08:57 PM
I really, really like New England Clam Chowder. I really, really, really like lobster bisque. We could do clam chowder at the Naznet retreat, but I'm not sure the lobster bisque the way I like it would be legal at Windsor Hills Retreat and Conference Center. Maybe one of our excursions could be to Maine, and to Warren's Lobster Restaurant.
Maybe we could go to John Reilly's house for a clam bake, with lobster, steamers and corn on the cob.
Dennis M. Scott
August 14th, 2010, 09:01 PM
At the NAZNET retreat we could have competition between Schutz clam chowda and Scott clam choudah. I will bring the oyster crackers.
Linda said Mike could make the clam chowder, and she would do oyster stew, if John would buy the lobsters.
David Troxler
August 15th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Well, one thing's for sure, if there's going to be a clam chowdah competition at the NazNet retreat, I'm not about to sit around and only be a spectator. I'll join Kaza as a judge. :smilies0161:
Lobsters fresh off the dock, corn on the cob, some steamers along with the chowdah and since we're on this kick, some homemade blueberry pies from freshly picked berries. Let's do this right. :smilies1694:
Kazimiera Fraley
August 15th, 2010, 09:35 PM
I think the blue berries will all be gone by then. Although, the ones that came off the bushes (and into my tummy) outside of the chapel during Family camp were quite yummy, as were the raspberries sprinkled throughout the camp. I vote next year we have this retreat during berry season, so we can have fresh berry pies. Yum!
Mike Schutz
August 17th, 2010, 11:14 AM
Hey - I don't make clam chowder, as my attempts have left me less than satisfied. I simply go to Legal Seafood. (But I like Legal's seafood chowder better than clam chowder.) And the best seafood chowder I have ever had is at the No Name Restaurant on the Fish Pier on the Boston waterfront.
I would be more than happy if Dennis convinced Linda to be the official purveyor of New England clam chowder for the conference. After all, she is a real New Englander!
Dennis M. Scott
August 17th, 2010, 01:31 PM
You guys are being unmerciful. The longer this thread gets, the more trouble I'm in with Linda. Even naznet lurkers at ENC are talking to her about it.
David Troxler
August 17th, 2010, 01:36 PM
You guys are being unmerciful. The longer this thread gets, the more trouble I'm in with Linda. Even naznet lurkers at ENC are talking to her about it.
:smilies1127: Then I suggest you take us all out to Legal Seafoods or No Name. Both are excellent choices. Bring Dave Pettigrew along from the "Tamale" thread so he can sample lobsters from someplace other than Red Lobster. http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?1584-Tamale-tonight
When we going?
Dennis M. Scott
August 17th, 2010, 03:02 PM
Dave, you're not the only one with friends in Boston's north end. I can blackmail, too. In fact, my cousin Guido has a place just down the street from No Name. It's plenty deep.
David Troxler
August 17th, 2010, 03:13 PM
Dave, you're not the only one with friends in Boston's north end. I can blackmail, too. In fact, my cousin Guido has a place just down the street from No Name. It's plenty deep.
I'll bet it is. Maybe that's where long lost Jimmy H. has been spending his time--either that or Whitey B.
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