Anyone going to the Feb 7-9 NNU conference?

[Hans Deventer]

At http://wesley.nnu.edu/ (it's on the top right, you have to wait for it but it will show) there is an add on a conference with Brian McLaren from February 7-9. I've been trying to contact the one who organizes the conference again, but although he replied swiftly in April, I haven't seen a reply from him to my request for more details since almost 3 weeks.

So I have the following questions: what would the cost of the conference be? I'd have to fly in from Europe, so that would already be quite an expense.

Second, anyone familiar with what they do for housing conference guests? And again, at what price?

[Hans Deventer]

Searching the internet I found in a newspaper article (http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/831307/conference_at_nnu_will_focus_on_holiness/index.html) that the cost of this year's conference was $ 65. With the current exchange rate, that's not too expensive :basic05. And, the article gave a name and email address of someone involved with the organisation. So that's another email address I'll be trying.

[Dave McClung]

At http://wesley.nnu.edu/ (it's on the top right, you have to wait for it but it will show) there is an add on a conference with Brian McLaren from February 7-9. I've been trying to contact the one who organizes the conference again, but although he replied swiftly in April, I haven't seen a reply from him to my request for more details since almost 3 weeks.

So I have the following questions: what would the cost of the conference be? I'd have to fly in from Europe, so that would already be quite an expense.

Second, anyone familiar with what they do for housing conference guests? And again, at what price?

Hans

I am surprized that your are not getting a response from NNU. Remember that the school is closed for the Thanksgiving Holiday. Perhaps they will respond on Monday.

If you will be that close, consider coming on over to Gig Harbor to spend a few days. The last time you were here you only stayed one night.

Most travel web sites don't give the flights for Southwest Airlines. It is usually the cheapest way to get from Boise (Nampa) to Seattle (Gig Harbor).

[Hans Deventer]

I am surprized that your are not getting a response from NNU.

So am I. Back in April, when the add first showed, I had contact with Tom Oord about it. He referred me to Jay Akkerman as the one who organized this event. Got a reply from Jay informing me he would be meeting with Brian next week. Emailed back, got another reply. This was April 9.

Since the cheap tickets start to disappear by now, I emailed him again on the 3rd of November. I'm not sure how long NNU is closed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, but I presume not at that time yet?

On the 12th of November I asked Tom if he knew something had happened to Dr. Akkerman. He didn't and email Jay himself.

No reaction to this very day.

My conclusion is that it can't be problems with my email, he still would have gotten Tom's. So what actually is the matter, I don't know.

I found this email address from a lady who organised last year's conference in this newspaper article and I've emailed her yesterday, but I do understand I won't hear anything from her till Monday.

If you will be that close, consider coming on over to Gig Harbor to spend a few days. The last time you were here you only stayed one night.

Dave, I really appreciate the invitation and I would absolutely look forward to visiting you and some of the magnificent sites and parks around your place, but I would be on my own this time and I'd much rather do that with Hannie and in Summer too. You are right though, it was way too short last time.

I still hope Hannie will be well enough one day to do this. Unfortunately, such isn't the case yet.

[Ryan Scott]

I'm going to this conference when it's in Kansas City later in April. $65 sounds about right, although I thought the cost went up after some date in November.

I didn't check out the website, but I assume this is the same series of conferences he's doing in support of his new book.

[Dave McClung]

So am I. Back in April, when the add first showed, I had contact with Tom Oord about it. He referred me to Jay Akkerman as the one who organized this event. Got a reply from Jay informing me he would be meeting with Brian next week. Emailed back, got another reply. This was April 9.

Since the cheap tickets start to disappear by now, I emailed him again on the 3rd of November. I'm not sure how long NNU is closed for the Thanksgiving Holiday, but I presume not at that time yet?

On the 12th of November I asked Tom if he knew something had happened to Dr. Akkerman. He didn't and email Jay himself.

No reaction to this very day.

My conclusion is that it can't be problems with my email, he still would have gotten Tom's. So what actually is the matter, I don't know.

I found this email address from a lady who organised last year's conference in this newspaper article and I've emailed her yesterday, but I do understand I won't hear anything from her till Monday.



Dave, I really appreciate the invitation and I would absolutely look forward to visiting you and some of the magnificent sites and parks around your place, but I would be on my own this time and I'd much rather do that with Hannie and in Summer too. You are right though, it was way too short last time.

I still hope Hannie will be well enough one day to do this. Unfortunately, such isn't the case yet.

Two points:
1. Never assume anything from the absence of a response. I learned that from my days of practicing law. While common sense often leads us to conclude something from the absence of a response, there are enough exceptions that it isn't safe to do so. There are a multitude of reasons you might not have received a response.

2. Presistence pays. Keep trying different avenues. Try sending an email to Rich Hagood, the president of NNU. Ask Rich to check to see if Jay is ok. Tell him that you are concerned about Jay because he has not responded to your emails. Be sure to copy Jay on your email to Rich.

[Hans Deventer]

I got a reply this morning and the registration page is up and running now. See www.nnu.edu/wesley2008. Looks interesting to me!

So I registered and booked my flights, and I am really looking forward to being there. I read Scott Daniels will be there, and I would love to meet any other NazNetters.

I've even been offered a place to stay, for which I am very grateful. That really was like a sign that this was the right thing to do. I've been praying about this and this morning, opening my email, I found both an email with the registration page that I'd been looking for all this time, and an offer for a place to stay. Can't get much clearer than that.

[Martijn van Beveren]

I got a reply this morning and the registration page is up and running now. See www.nnu.edu/wesley2008. Looks interesting to me!

So I registered and booked my flights, and I am really looking forward to being there. I read Scott Daniels will be there, and I would love to meet any other NazNetters.

I've even been offered a place to stay, for which I am very grateful. That really was like a sign that this was the right thing to do. I've been praying about this and this morning, opening my email, I found both an email with the registration page that I'd been looking for all this time, and an offer for a place to stay. Can't get much clearer than that.

Well, I do hope to hear a question from you on the audio recordings in march :)

Martijn

[David Pettigrew]

I sent the link to the conference to my wife with an email heading "Great Christmas present idea for me." My birthday is in February, so between the two, I just might be there!

[Hans Deventer]

I sent the link to the conference to my wife with an email heading "Great Christmas present idea for me." My birthday is in February, so between the two, I just might be there!

David, I'd love to meet you!

[Meghan Schoonover]

I'm going. :) Perhaps we can meet up, Hans! Our pastor and associate pastor are going. We are likely staying with our former pastor, or students we know, or...? We were planning to stay for only the Wesley conference...it had shown up as $65 and a separate fee for the Everything Must Change one, but the link you provided said they are together and couldn't be registered for separately. Odd! What did we register for, then? <scratching head> I just emailed that link to our pastor...hopefully we'll work things out, I really would like to go to both.

See you there!

[Hans Deventer]

I'm going. :) Perhaps we can meet up, Hans!

I'm sure we should be able to! I don't know how many people will be there, last year's DVD didn't show a very big crowd so we should be able to find one another. I'm looking forward to it more and more!

[Meghan Schoonover]

Do you think there will be more people b/c of McLaren being there? I am looking forward to it. Do you have his new book?

[Hans Deventer]

Do you think there will be more people b/c of McLaren being there?

I don't know, Meghan. Some people really like the guy, but others really don't. I'm not sure what the combined effect is and it does make the conference more expensive.

I am looking forward to it. Do you have his new book?

No, not yet. And I've been buying a lot of books lately so I'm going to do some reading in stead of buying :basic05

[Meghan Schoonover]

. And I've been buying a lot of books lately so I'm going to do some reading in stead of buying :basic05

Heh heh, I have a problem with doing that, too.

[Scott Daniels]

I'm looking forward to it. It should be fun.

[Kevin Rector]

I've been looking at the 2008 Wesley Center Conference and thinking that it looked like a very interesting conference that I would like to go to. The main problem is that the cost is pretty much prohibitive by the time you factor in 3 nights in a hotel, food, travel costs, and conference fees. We're talking over 2 weeks salary for me.

So is there anyone who is planning on going that might want to split a hotel room to save cost? I'm not sure I could even go at this point, but I'm trying to see if I could find a way and reducing the housing cost is the first step.

http://www.nnu.edu/wesley2008

[Hans Deventer]

Kevin, I won't be staying in a hotel room, otherwise I'd love to! But my son Edwin has often stayed with people from this website http://www.couchsurfing.com/ and his experiences have been very positive so far. You might want to give it a try, he said there are a some people who offer a free place to sleep in Nampa.

[Kevin Rector]

Kevin, I won't be staying in a hotel room...

Does this mean you'll be going to this conference?

[Hans Deventer]

Does this mean you'll be going to this conference?

Yes. http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=16182 :basic03

[Kevin Rector]

Yes. http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=16182 :basic03

I now remember reading that thread, but somehow it slipped through the cracks. Hmmm... gotta figure out how to get there.

Hans, so how are you going to get from where you're staying to the conference? Are you renting a car or maybe borrowing one? That'll be another issue is if I can get transportation from wherever I'm staying to the conference. Oh the logistical nightmares.

Anyone know any Nazarenes in the area that might wanna loan a couch or spare bed to a Nazarene pastor from Wisconsin? :basic05

I mean really... Hans Deventer, Scott Daniels. The only thing that could make the conference better is if Roland came. I have to find a way to get there.

[Charlene Clevenger]

You could contact some of the churches there. Especially College Church and First Church. Check Nazarene.org for their contact info. If my dad were healthier I'd offer his couch. He used to go to Nazarene churches in Marshfield and Madison, so I'm sure you'd have a lot to talk about. :)

[Hans Deventer]

Hans, so how are you going to get from where you're staying to the conference?

See email.

[Hans Deventer]

I sent the link to the conference to my wife with an email heading "Great Christmas present idea for me." My birthday is in February, so between the two, I just might be there!

David, did you get anything like this for Christmas?

[David Pettigrew]

David, did you get anything like this for Christmas?

I did, Hans! I am going to be making a road trip out of it, driving up through OKC, Denver, and Salt Lake City. It's a part of the country I've never seen before, so I will be taking my time.

Kevin, if we stay at the same hotel, you are welcome to ride back and forth to the conference with me. I plan on making reservations this week.

I look forward to seeing you all there!

[Hal Paul]

I did, Hans! I am going to be making a road trip out of it, driving up through OKC, Denver, and Salt Lake City. It's a part of the country I've never seen before, so I will be taking my time.

A road trip through Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho in February: Yikes!!! and Brrrr!!! Make sure you take a survival kit (http://www.orfordvillepd.net/winter_driving_survival_kit.htm).

[David Pettigrew]

A road trip through Kansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho in February: Yikes!!! and Brrrr!!! Make sure you take a survival kit (http://www.orfordvillepd.net/winter_driving_survival_kit.htm).

Sounds like a good idea, but the number one survival item for me would be the contents of the coffee can before its emptied!

[Hans Deventer]

I look forward to seeing you all there!

Wonderful! I was looking forward to it, but even more now!

[Hal Paul]

Sounds like a good idea, but the number one survival item for me would be the contents of the coffee can before its emptied!

Maybe that's why you use the candle to melt snow. :smilies16

[Thomas Oord]

Kevin,

Still looking for somewhere to stay in Nampa? Let me know: tjoord@nnu.edu

Tom

[Jim Franklin]

Looking forward to meeting all of you but I do not have room to offer a place to stay with my son and family living with us. Dave, that is right after the McCall Winter Festival, maybe you and Linda should just plan on coming to both.

[Thomas Oord]

I hope we can somehow see each other briefly at the NNU conference...

Tom

[Kevin Rector]

Well, it's official, I am going to be there. My church board agreed this morning to pay for the conference fee. So now I have to arrange all the logistics.

[Hans Deventer]

Well, it's official, I am going to be there. My church board agreed this morning to pay for the conference fee. So now I have to arrange all the logistics.

Wonderful!!!! I'm looking forward to it even more now!

[David Pettigrew]

Perhaps some sort of naznet meeting is in order. I believe lunch is on our own on one of the days. I'll have to go back and look at the schedule. I'd look forward to having some sit down time with all of you!

dp

[Hans Deventer]

Perhaps some sort of naznet meeting is in order. I believe lunch is on our own on one of the days. I'll have to go back and look at the schedule. I'd look forward to having some sit down time with all of you!

I certainly think such a meeting is in order! The schedule is as follows:

Thursday 7 February 2008

11a - Registration begins in the NNU Brandt Center lobby
1p - Welcome & opening session with Thomas Jay Oord
2p - Q&A with Thomas Jay Oord & Brian McLaren
2:30p - Break
3p - Afternoon session with Brian McLaren
4p - Q&A with Brian McLaren, Thomas Jay Oord, Alan Nelson & Scott Daniels
4:30p - Break
5p - Workshops
6p - Buffet dinner provided in the Brandt Center lobby
7p - Evening session with Scott Daniels
8p - Q&A with Scott Daniels & Brian McLaren
8:30p - Dessert reception sponsored by NNU Graduate Theological Online Education programs

Friday 8 February 2008

8a - Continental breakfast & devotional in the NNU Brandt Center lobby
9a - Panel discussion
10a - Break
10:20a - NNU chapel address with Brian McLaren
11a - Q&A with Brian McLaren, Thomas Jay Oord, Alan Nelson & Scott Daniels
12n - Lunch on your own
1:30p - Afternoon session with Alan Nelson
2:15p - Q&A with Alan Nelson & Scott Daniels
3p - Break
3:30p - Workshops
4:30p - Break & dinner on your own

[David Pettigrew]

What about the "lunch on your own" time segment from 12:00 to 1:30 on Friday?

[Kevin Rector]

What about the "lunch on your own" time segment from 12:00 to 1:30 on Friday?

Looks good to me.

[Hans Deventer]

Looks good to me.

You're on! Meghan, will you join us? Guys always behave a lot better with a lady around :basic03

[Meghan Schoonover]

Ha ha! Ok, I'll be there. :) Friday on the "own your own" part...would we find a restaurant or something?

[Hans Deventer]

Ha ha! Ok, I'll be there. :) Friday on the "own your own" part...would we find a restaurant or something?

I think so. But hey, I've never been to Nampa and I'm a foreigner anyway. I'll follow the advice of the natives.

[Thomas Oord]

Y'all,

The Saturday lunch option looks like the best one, but I've got other lunch plans. I'll have to miss the Naznet get together.

Glad Kevin's coming too...

Tom

[David Pettigrew]

Y'all,

The Saturday lunch option looks like the best one, but I've got other lunch plans. I'll have to miss the Naznet get together.

Glad Kevin's coming too...

Tom

I believe we're meeting on Friday, not Saturday, Tom. Does that change anything for you? Any good restaurant recommendations that are close by?

[Thomas Oord]

David,

I'd better not commit to Friday lunch. I'm supposed to deliver the opening conference address at 1pm, and I've committed to helping get things set up. I'm open for a breakfast, but that's probably not ideal for the rest of you.

There is a much-frequented Mexican food spot called "Chapala's" a few miles from campus. I recommend it. There are a host of fast-food spots in the area too. Good Chinese food is two miles toward downtown Nampa.

I hope that helps...

Tom

[Hans Deventer]

I'd better not commit to Friday lunch. I'm supposed to deliver the opening conference address at 1pm, and I've committed to helping get things set up.

Actually, you're scheduled to do that on Thursday. :basic03

Are you sure you aren't one day off in some sense?

[Thomas Oord]

Wow, I really AM confused. Thanks for helping me, Hans.

I'll check with Jay to be sure that he doesn't already have something planned for me, but I think I can go to lunch on Friday!

Tom

[Kevin Rector]

I am just so incredibly excited about this. I love conferences, meeting people in the flesh that I've known online, traveling to places I've never been, and talking about God.

This is just all very exciting for me.

[Kevin Rector]

Kevin,

Still looking for somewhere to stay in Nampa? Let me know: tjoord@nnu.edu

Tom

Somehow I missed this post, I've emailed you.

[Jim Franklin]

I hope I can get in on a NazNet Friday lunch get-together but I have to leave right afterwards as our church is having a mens retreat to which I hope to take my younger son. I could be checking out a possible location if we can get a count of how many would attend. We might even be able to set something up with the university's dining service on campus. For that we would have to agree on a menu. I will be willing to assist in anyway I can.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Actually, you're scheduled to do that on Thursday. :basic03

Are you sure you aren't one day off in some sense?

He he he...

Hans, you have found yourself a real absent-minded professor!

(or maybe a super-busy one)

Smiles,

[Jim Franklin]

Edith, please don't knock absent-minded professors because I seem to recall that I was one of those once and I may still be absent-minded even if I are not a professor no more.

[Kevin Rector]

Now, it's really official, I've registered for the event and bought an airplane ticket.

Unfortunately I'll have to leave early Saturday as my flight out of Boise is at 2:00 because I have to be home to preach the next morning.

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Edith, please don't knock absent-minded professors because I seem to recall that I was one of those once and I may still be absent-minded even if I are not a professor no more.

Perhaps this is the reason why?
"........even if I are not a professor no more."

Ducking and running while tossing a Noah Webster's 1828,

:basic01

[Meghan Schoonover]

Jim, that would be great to be able to meet up with you, too, even though you can't come to the conference. :) Like Kevin, I'm excited for the conference, and to meet my online friends.

[Meghan Schoonover]

Oh, and we'll have to take a picture! :D

[Charlene Clevenger]

David,

I'd better not commit to Friday lunch. I'm supposed to deliver the opening conference address at 1pm, and I've committed to helping get things set up. I'm open for a breakfast, but that's probably not ideal for the rest of you.

There is a much-frequented Mexican food spot called "Chapala's" a few miles from campus. I recommend it. There are a host of fast-food spots in the area too. Good Chinese food is two miles toward downtown Nampa.

I hope that helps...

Tom

I was going to suggest Chapala's, if you like Mexican food. It's terrific. I always want to go there while in Nampa. There's also Squeezer's next door, but I wouldn't recommend it. :)

[Thomas Oord]

I agree with Charlene. Chapala's is a good place to go for lunch...

Tom

[Kevin Rector]

I say we go to Chapala's unless there are any serious Mexican food haters that want to come.

[Jim Franklin]

So about how many do we have planning on attending the NazNet luncheon? Is there anyone who does not care for Mexican cuisine? Can someone figure a count? So far I have Hans, Kevin, Scott, Meghan, David and myself, anyone else? Report in please and I'll start the ball rolling unless Dr. Tom would prefer to do so since he is right in Nampa, but to call to Nampa for me is not long distance. Just willing to help.

[Jim Franklin]

Edith, just teasing with you, young lady. When you were teaching did you ever forget something and feel a bit absent-minded?

[David Pettigrew]

I vote "yes" for Mexican. Twice, if need be.

dp

[Thomas Oord]

Jim,

Feel free to take the Chapala ball and run with it! I've got several other responsibilities, and I'd appreciate you taking charge.

Tom

[Meghan Schoonover]

Jim, as far as a head count, my pastors might be interested in going...we're all traveling together. I'll ask them tomorrow at the staff mtng...I'm sure that would be ok if they joined us?

[Jim Franklin]

LOL David, I have heard of those who vote twice in Chicago though even if there addresses were cemetaries.

[Jim Franklin]

Meghan, you used the plural "pastors," does that mean two, three or how many?

Dr. Thom, can we include your mom?

[Thomas Oord]

Jim,

I found out a few days ago that my mom won't make the trip this year. But she plans to attend next year.

Tom

[Jim Franklin]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH was certainly looking forward to seeing your mom again. Dr. Thom are you going to be with us?

[Hans Deventer]

So about how many do we have planning on attending the NazNet luncheon? Is there anyone who does not care for Mexican cuisine?

No problem here, Jim.

Can someone figure a count? So far I have Hans, Kevin, Scott, Meghan, David and myself, anyone else? Report in please and I'll start the ball rolling unless Dr. Tom would prefer to do so since he is right in Nampa, but to call to Nampa for me is not long distance. Just willing to help.

Thanks! True to my nationality, with all these people, we might want to "go Dutch" :basic03

[Thomas Oord]

Jim,

I'm planning to eat lunch with the group, but I still haven't heard from my colleague and conference director, Jay Akkerman, if I'll be needed during that time. Count on me unless I post that I have other commitments to Jay.

Tom

[Debi Peck]

I won't be at the conference, but I'm going to try to slip over to Nampa for lunch with y'all. I'm looking forward to meeting some more Naznetters!

[David Pettigrew]

For the budget conscious:

Super 8 Nampa is about 4 miles from NNU.

624 Nampa Blvd
Nampa, ID 83687
(208) 467-2888

Don't know how nice it is, but they have breakfast and high speed internet, and if you are tax exempt the rate is 59.00 per night. Works for me!

dp

[Thomas Oord]

We'll look forward to seeing you, Debi.

By the way, where do you live, Debi?

Tom

[Meghan Schoonover]

Meghan, you used the plural "pastors," does that mean two, three or how many?


Two...I have a staff mtng this afternoon so I will ask them then.

[Bob Manley]

For the budget conscious:

Super 8 Nampa is about 4 miles from NNU.

624 Nampa Blvd
Nampa, ID 83687
(208) 467-2888

Don't know how nice it is, but they have breakfast and high speed internet, and if you are tax exempt the rate is 59.00 per night. Works for me!

dp

Also for the budget conscious: (no cost involved)
My home is available for another couple or three, preferably men; I have no hostess available, but we men could "batch" OK. I live four blocks from NNU's Brandt Center in a comfortable older home, don't do much cooking but kitchen facilities are available as needed. Check Naznet's membership list for personal info if you wish, also email address. Also, I can arrange to meet your plane in Boise, if needed, and get you to Nampa.

Bob Manley

[Meghan Schoonover]

Jim - they both said they probably will do something else. (What, they don't want to hang out with us cool kids??? :) ) So, just me!

[Hans Deventer]

Also for the budget conscious: (no cost involved)
My home is available for another couple or three, preferably men; I have no hostess available, but we men could "batch" OK. I live four blocks from NNU's Brandt Center in a comfortable older home, don't do much cooking but kitchen facilities are available as needed. Check Naznet's membership list for personal info if you wish, also email address. Also, I can arrange to meet your plane in Boise, if needed, and get you to Nampa.

There's one backdrop: you'd have to be able to get along with me, because I'll be staying with Bob too. :laughing

Seriously, thanks again, Bob! I'm really looking forward to meeting you!

[Hans Deventer]

Jim, I've been emailing you but so far, no reply. Can you please respond or, if you received nothing, send me your correct email address?

[Jim Franklin]

We have a reservation at Chapalas for noon on Feb. 8 for about 10-12. Let me know at franklinmj@juno.com if there are any changes.

Hans nothing has arrived here directly or by member private mail. I did send a private note to Bob suggesting that if It would be of help that I could pick you up but have received no return message from him There was one note a few days back about Bob being your host and that he would be picking you up. I just offered the possibility of me picking you up if that would be more convenient for Bob since I live about 6 miles from the Boise Airport and he is about 18 miles from the airport. I am still open to help in anyway I can. I hope Bob can be included in our lunch a Chapalas and Meghan has at least a couple of pastors she will be traveling with that would be welcomed.

Previously, we had a count of 6. Debi is certainly welcomed so with Bob that will be 8 so there is room for Meghan's pastors if they would join us. I am sure Meghan will appreciate the addition of Debi. I do not know whether Hal Kreps is available and could join us or if he is off traveling or in warmer climes. Lurkers let me know if you wish to come out of your dens and join us so I can notify Chapalas of the additions.

[Hans Deventer]

We have a reservation at Chapalas for noon on Feb. 8 for about 10-12. Let me know at franklinmj@juno.com if there are any changes.

Jim, I now understand the problem. I have been using the email address you have entered on NazNet: sunvalleyjim@yahoo.com. It seems you don't use that anymore. I've changed it into franklinmj@juno.com. Otherwise people that would want to email you from NazNet, won't ever reach you.

[Jim Franklin]

Hans, I still use both and have no idea why it did not come through.

[Hans Deventer]

Hans, I still use both and have no idea why it did not come through.

This is getting weirder by the minute. I don't know what's happening why my emails don't get through. I'll retry again, sending from every account I have, to both of yours. Please do tell me which one got through.

[Meghan Schoonover]

Maybe Jim could check his yahoo spam filter? I have to check it every once in awhile b/c I do get real messages there.

[Thomas Oord]

I've got bad news: Jay Akkerman responded to my question about Friday lunch. It turns out, he's committed me to having lunch with McLaren. So, reluctantly, I have to bow out of the Friday lunch event. Bummer!

Tom

[Meghan Schoonover]

Ha! Well, invite Brian along to our gathering! ;)

[Kevin Rector]

Ha! Well, invite Brian along to our gathering! ;)

Yeah, if Nazarene's were allowed to bet I'd bet that he'd come.

[Hans Deventer]

I've got bad news: Jay Akkerman responded to my question about Friday lunch. It turns out, he's committed me to having lunch with McLaren. So, reluctantly, I have to bow out of the Friday lunch event. Bummer!

Tom

Then we're back to the breakfast :basic01 When would that be? I'm an early riser, so any time from 6 am on is fine with me.

[Thomas Oord]

I like the idea of inviting Brian to lunch with us. But the lunch meeting Jay has planned involves some other faculty as well. So I'd better not ask.

I'm open to meet for breakfast, but I don't want the group to feel obligated to change just for me. Breakfast may not work for others. I'll go with what the group decides...

Tom

[Meghan Schoonover]

I *prefer* lunch, but I'd really like to meet Tom, too.

[David Pettigrew]

Breakfast is fine with me! 6:00 may be a little early for those driving in, however.

[Hans Deventer]

For all clarity, let's keep the lunch appointment on Friday. I'm looking forward to that. But if, in addition to that, there would be an option to meet Tom over breakfast (and I'm sure 6 am is a little early for him too! :basic03), that would be great.

[Kevin Rector]

I definitely want to keep the lunch. I'm not driving myself to the conference, so I'm not sure I could make breakfast.

[Hans Deventer]

I definitely want to keep the lunch. I'm not driving myself to the conference, so I'm not sure I could make breakfast.

I'll be walking. Checking Google Maps, it seems I'm something like half a mile from the Brandt Center.

[Thomas Oord]

I think it's wise to keep the lunch plans. But I'm open to breakfast on Friday or Saturday morning. We could meet on campus in the cafeteria or the little campus coffee shop. Or we could meet somewhere in town...

Tom

[Hans Deventer]

I'm open to breakfast on Friday or Saturday morning. We could meet on campus in the cafeteria or the little campus coffee shop. Or we could meet somewhere in town...

Tom, as I look at the program, I see for Friday:

8-9am - Continental breakfast & devotional in the NNU Brandt Center lobby

and for Saturday:

7:29-8:19 am - Conversations over Coffee…first come first serve sign-up on-site:

My guess (but not more than that) would be that Saturday would be best suited for a breakfast somewhere else. You know the place, so I'll follow whatever you suggest (hey, this is no theology discussion so I'm very easy going :laughing)

[Thomas Oord]

Y'all,

For those who can attend the breakfast too, let's meet at the NNU cafeteria (affectionately called "the dex" by students). And let's go with Hans's suggestion of meeting on Saturday, I think that 7am should work. This won't be too early. And meeting in the dex is convenient and will guarantee lots of table room for whomever wants to join us.

Sound good to you all?

Tom

PS> Again, I'm sorry I can't attend the lunch on Friday!

[Hans Deventer]

PS> Again, I'm sorry I can't attend the lunch on Friday!

We'll get Jay Akkerman and even his Dutch last name won't save him! :laughing

[Meghan Schoonover]

Hans - LOL!

I'm probably game for breakfast on Sat. Man. 7am. <yawn>

[Bob Manley]

Y'all,

For those who can attend the breakfast too, let's meet at the NNU cafeteria (affectionately called "the dex" by students). And let's go with Hans's suggestion of meeting on Saturday, I think that 7am should work. This won't be too early. And meeting in the dex is convenient and will guarantee lots of table room for whomever wants to join us.

Sound good to you all?

Tom

PS> Again, I'm sorry I can't attend the lunch on Friday!

Count me in for the Friday lunch and the Saturday breakfast. Also, anyone yet needing housing, I have room; see earlier post regarding this. Just let me know.

Bob Manley

[Hal Paul]

For those of you who are traveling to Nampa, Mike's discussion about active pilots (http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?p=166064#post166064) reminded me to suggest that while you are there, try to get to the Nampa airport and visit the Mission Aviation Fellowship Headquarters. (http://www.maf.org/home) They have a small museum and gift shop, and you might get them to give you a tour of their hangar facilities.

The museum has the slightly reconstructed remains of Nate Saint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Saint)'s Piper PA-14 that was recovered from the Curaray River in Equador.

My dad flies his glider (http://soaridaho.com/Schreder/index.html) out of the Nampa Airport. Here are a couple pictures I took of the plane when he took me to visit the MAF headquarers a couple years ago.

[Jim Franklin]

I'm posting this to confirm those who will be attending the NazNetter luncheon at Chapala's in Nampa at noon this coming Friday, Feb. 8 in conjunction with the conference at NNU because I wish to call Chapala's on Tuesday to confirm our reservation. To the best of my understanding, the following have confirmed that they plan to be present, Hans, Kevin, David, Scott, Meghan, Debi, Ron Hunter, Bob Manley, myself and I have invited but not received confirmation from Hal Kreps which would make 10. If there are any others planning on joining us please let me know at franklinmj@juno.com before 2 PM Mountain Standard Time.

[David Pettigrew]

I'll be there!

This has been a bummer of a week. I had planned on making a big road trip out of this event, and spend some much needed alone time on the open road. I was going to leave today or tomorrow, and then take my time coming home when the conference was over. It was to be a week's vacation.

Well, some changes with our staffing here at DCN have resulted in me really, really needing to be at church next Sunday. Had to change all of my arrangements at the last minute.

Anyway, I am still VERY excited about the conference, and can't wait to meet everyone!

[Kevin Rector]

Well, some changes with our staffing here at DCN have resulted in me really, really needing to be at church next Sunday. Had to change all of my arrangements at the last minute.

Anyway, I am still VERY excited about the conference, and can't wait to meet everyone!

I too have to be home for Sunday morning. Are you now flying out Saturday? I actually have to leave at the lunch break on Saturday to get to the airport. I wish I didn't have to miss the last part on Saturday, but at least I'll get most of the conference. I'm almost giddy with expectation.

[David Pettigrew]

I actually have to miss the entire Saturday portion of the conference :(

[Kevin Rector]

I actually have to miss the entire Saturday portion of the conference :(

Bummer, but at least you'll get the other days.

[Thomas Oord]

I mentioned earlier that I can't make the Friday lunch. But I'm still planning to meet at the campus cafeteria at 7am on Saturday morning. The conference session begins at 7:29. I'm looking forward to chatting with you all who can make the breakfast on campus Saturday...

Tom

[David Pettigrew]

That I will be at the morning session on Saturday! I spoke with Delta and if I miss my flight on purpose on Saturday morning, I can pay a $50 fee and get on the 3:10 flight for the afternoon.

The problem is when I had to change travel plans at the last minute, I booked through priceline.com (never done it before) not realizing they just arbitrarily assigned you a departing time. Got a great deal, but then I was stuck.

So, we'll see what happens, but I'm feeling much better about it now!

[Hans Deventer]

I mentioned earlier that I can't make the Friday lunch. But I'm still planning to meet at the campus cafeteria at 7am on Saturday morning. The conference session begins at 7:29. I'm looking forward to chatting with you all who can make the breakfast on campus Saturday...


I'll be there! I'm actually on my way in less than 12 hours........ Gonna be a looooooooong day tomorrow. A regular day has 24 hours, but mine will have 32!

[David Pettigrew]

I'll be there! I'm actually on my way in less than 12 hours........ Gonna be a looooooooong day tomorrow. A regular day has 24 hours, but mine will have 32!

I call those "Sundays.":basic01 Have a safe trip, Hans!

[Jim Franklin]

I have just called Chapalas and confirmed that there would be between 9 and 12 of us for lunch on Friday, Feb. 8. Looking forward to seeing you all there.

[Kevin Rector]

Well, I'm here. I'm in Nampa and on the campus of NNU. Just doing some "work" on the public computer at the library.

[Jim Franklin]

Welcome, Kevin. Pastor Bob called me this morning saying that you would be coming with us to meet Hans. See you in a few hours.

[Meghan Schoonover]

Hi Kevin. I'm not there.

[Debi Peck]

It looks like I might not make it to lunch after all. :basic04 Norm has been in a military exercise all week, working nights (16-20 hours!). He has a doctor's appointment in Boise Friday, and there is no way I'm going to let him drive after being on that schedule all week and working all night the night before. If you've ever driven between Mountain Home and Boise before, you know it's one of those stretches of highway that is not known for its interesting scenery! (Although the last couple of weeks we have had HUGE herds of elk right along the highway!) Anyway, I'm so sad I don't get to come. I've been looking forward to meeting you all!!

[Jim Franklin]

So sad that you won't be able to make it Debi but we understand that a loving wife takes care of her man. It would be very early and quite a ways to come for breakfast in the Dex on Saturday morning but that would be an alternative. I have decided not to go on the men's retreat that I mentioned earlier and probably will try to make it to the breakfast.

[David Pettigrew]

I'm in Nampa! Last night, I attended Ash Wednesday services at Epworth Chapel (http://www.epworthchapelonthegreen.org/) and enjoyed a great cup of coffee afterwards at Moxie Java (love trying new coffee places, and I was not disappointed) with Dr. Brook Thelander, parish rector. He also teaches online classes for the NNU graduate degree program.

Looking forward to seeing everyone today! On the plane up here, I sat next to a fella that was on his way to Montana for some drunken revelry and skiing with his poker buddies. I told him I was meeting some friends as well. He told me not to party too hard. So, let's not get into too much trouble, y'all.:q)

[Meghan Schoonover]

Ha ha!

Well, I'm sitting here waiting for my pastor to show up. Apparently there's "extreme weather conditions" so we might have to turn back, but we're going to give it a shot. I said, "Hey, I'm from Canada, throw some chains in the back and let's go!"

Oh, and David, maybe add to your siggy a first thing: "What God did for us." That's what matters when we die! Neat you went to an Ash Wed service, looks like a great parish "Wesleyan-Anglican"...I went with my friend to her church last night. It was a bilingual service...my first! I thought the priest did a good job switching back and forth and still helping us feel like we understood everything. Helps to have side-by-side readings...last night's OT reading from Joel really spoke to me, "Render your hearts, not your clothes." So many times we look at the OT as legalistic rules, but God's concern has always been with our hearts...

Hope to see you all soon!

[Jim Franklin]

David, a few years ago I attended a Maunday Thursday service at Epworth on the Green. Many of the folks who attend there are long time friends from NNU and Boise First. My wife had one of the Thelander boys in her kindergarten class a few years back. See you tomorrow, have to do maps today.

[Hal Paul]

If you've ever driven between Mountain Home and Boise before, you know it's one of those stretches of highway that is not known for its interesting scenery!

I actually enjoy that strech of road, but it could get old if you had to drive it often.

[Debi Peck]

I actually enjoy that strech of road, but it could get old if you had to drive it often.

I do enjoy that stretch of road, too--except when I'm tired. This week, Wednesday through Saturday, I have to do that drive to Boise and back home twice a day. Oh the joys of being the taxi driver for my teenagers!

[Hal Paul]

This week, Wednesday through Saturday, I have to do that drive to Boise and back home twice a day.
That would qualify as 'often.'

[Debi Peck]

If it's not too late, I can make it to the lunch after all! Norm got home from work at about 1:30 this morning, so he actually got more sleep that he thought he would. He's going to come with me! If it is too late, and there's not room at the table, that is OK, too. Norm and I can always sit elsewhere.

[Jim Franklin]

So glad you were both able to join us. I felt we enjoyed our fellowship and meals quite well.

[Ryan Scott]

OK, I know I've been offline for a week now, but seeing all these pictures leaves me with one question: how did Hans end up on the stage in one of those comfortable chairs?

[Hal Paul]

OK, I know I've been offline for a week now, but seeing all these pictures leaves me with one question: how did Hans end up on the stage in one of those comfortable chairs?

Probably because he's the most photogenic Dutchman at the conference.

[Kevin Rector]

OK, I know I've been offline for a week now, but seeing all these pictures leaves me with one question: how did Hans end up on the stage in one of those comfortable chairs?

Jay Akkerman asked him to do it. Hans did very well.

[Anne and Dwayne Hood]

First time I have heard that scripture Meghan. I saw a picture of you, that is much prettier than the one you usually have for an avatar. Some may have to render their clothes, also, because it is so hard to stop buying them, when shopping is so much fun.
Have fun, and take lots of pictures. Find out if Karen Jones is on campus, or out of the country--as she is often, and tell her Anne Hood said, "Hello."

[Jim Franklin]

;I did not make it to Nampa for breakfast today because we had a sick little grandson through the night. Also my older son had broken his toe and was quite hobbled up and I wanted to be available if he needed me to help at his shop today. It was great to meet all of you yesterday for lunch. I hope we can do it again. Have safe travels on your return, Jim.

[Hans Deventer]

Jay Akkerman asked him to do it. Hans did very well.

Thanks Kevin. Even my English wasn't too bad. Thankfully, it was the second day. I really had a hard time speeding it up to conversation speed. On NazNet, I have lots more time to think and correct.

[Kevin Rector]

Thanks Kevin. Even my English wasn't too bad. Thankfully, it was the second day. I really had a hard time speeding it up to conversation speed. On NazNet, I have lots more time to think and correct.

I found your English to be incredibly good from the moment you got off the plane. Much better than my Dutch. Although my Dutch is getting better, I remembered "kwantumkorting".