Site about Nazarene College

[Jeffery Fitzwell]

I'd like to say hello to all my fellow Nazarene's out there. I'm new to the faith out there and have been seeing mixed reviews about the church out there. Not sure if you all have seen what's out there. Very disturbing stuff. I'm wanting to send my kid to a nazarene university but there was a site I stumbled upon.


This site talks about how the colleges are overpriced and take your money, is this true? I look forward to guidance from my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. God Bless.

Jeff

[Cindi Hammons]

Hi Jeff, welcome to NazNet. I think the heading says it all, "A satirical look at some fairly literal institutions." I'm an MVNU grad (88 and 08). Nazarene schools are indeed expensive, but so are all the other private universities out there.

Again, welcome to NazNet.

[Brad Mercer]

Yes, Nazarene universities are significantly more expensive than state universities, but no more so than other private universitiess, and they're worth it.

My wife and I met at SNU. My daughter and the guy she expects to marry also met at SNU. Caring professors and staff helped my oldest son make some good choices when his spiritual life stood at a crossroads. And finally, you get a smaller class size and instructors who are more likely to have earned doctorates in the subject than the instructors at a big state school.

Brad

[Billy Cox]

Yes, Nazarene universities are significantly more expensive than state universities, but they'rem worth it.

My wife and I met at SNU. My daughter and the guy she expects to marry also met at SNU. Caring professors and staff helped my oldest son make so

It does go without saying that if the ratio of perceived value does not fit with the cost, then the college does not thrive financially.

As I understand it, at least a couple of the Nazarene colleges have been nursed back from the brink of closing their doors for this very reason.

[Ian Gentles]

State colleges get substitised, ya take your pick. Me, if i had the money, would go for the best!

http://iangentles.livejournal.com

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Hi Jeffery, I'm curious as to what search you did that found this blog? There's a great deal of information about Nazarene schools on the web, so how did you stumble upon this blog?



I'd like to say hello to all my fellow Nazarene's out there. I'm new to the faith out there and have been seeing mixed reviews about the church out there. Not sure if you all have seen what's out there. Very disturbing stuff. I'm wanting to send my kid to a nazarene university but there was a site I stumbled upon.


This site talks about how the colleges are overpriced and take your money, is this true? I look forward to guidance from my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. God Bless.

Jeff

[Jeffery Fitzwell]

Scott-

It was on a pastor friends blog and that's how I stumbled on it. He had a link to there. I'm on the net quite often so it's amazing at the information you can find.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Interesting -- I wonder why your pastor friend wanted to blog about a website that slams Nazarene colleges?

You'll have to excuse me but we've had a problem with a couple of trolls who got their jollies by yanking chains here on NazNet.

In fact, one of them was from the same town you are from. I'm sure you understand our sensitivity concerning people who come to NazNet and right off want people to visit a website that is critical of the Church of the Nazarene.


Scott-

It was on a pastor friends blog and that's how I stumbled on it. He had a link to there. I'm on the net quite often so it's amazing at the information you can find.

[Dave McClung]

I'd like to say hello to all my fellow Nazarene's out there. I'm new to the faith out there and have been seeing mixed reviews about the church out there. Not sure if you all have seen what's out there. Very disturbing stuff. I'm wanting to send my kid to a nazarene university but there was a site I stumbled upon.


This site talks about how the colleges are overpriced and take your money, is this true? I look forward to guidance from my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. God Bless.

Jeff

Jeff

Why would you waste your time reading a blog where the author is anonymous?

[Ryan Scott]

Yes, Nazarene universities are significantly more expensive than state universities, but no more so than other private universitiess, and they're worth it.


Of course you still have to be able to afford it, even if you're going to borrow money to go. I do wish some of the schools would be a little more honest with people and whether or not it's smart for them to take on that financial burden.

Some people really can't afford a private school, no matter how much they get from the government or how much the enrollment counselor thinks God wants them there.

I suppose there's a little bit of truth in every satire.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Our family owes a lot to Nazarene schools. I met my wife at Olivet, and then a generation later our son married the young lady he had dated at SNU. Finding a good Christian spouse is, in the words of the Visa commercial, "priceless."

[Anne and Dwayne Hood]

Jeff, private schools are more expensive than state schools. Also, you may sometimes meet students that do not live up to holiness. But, you have to realize that they came from different backgrounds, and may get their feet down spiritualy at a church school. Once, Dr. Moore, a former Nazarene College president, rode with us from Jackson, Mississippi, to the Memphis airport. He, basically, said that some parents send their kids to Trevecca, expecting them to change the kids in four years, when they have let them do as they pleased for 18 years.
But, our schools are places that provide a godly atmospere, as best they can, to our children.

[Donna Adams]

You also get proffessors and staff that really care about you. They pray with you, talk with you..you get what you pray for.

[Barb Bouldrey]

When our son went to a Nazarene college, I told him he had 4 choices:
1. Get involved in the spiritual life and get a good education
2. Ignore the spiritual life and get an good education
3. Walk the middle road
4. Goof off educationally and spiritually

We have pastored 6 Nazarene churches and in each church we have had people go to Nazarene schools. Some parents gripe constantly about "that school" and always have something to fuss about. Other parents love the school and what is it doing for their child.

I had a roommate who went through ONU rebellious and today at 60 has never yet become a Christian. I loved ONU and soaked in all the spiritually good things I could.

ONU made some mistakes with our education. But we made it through. We did not get bitter or critical because of some human errors made by counselors who did not really know what they were doing.

A lot has to do with a person's perspective and attitude. There are no perfect Christian schools because there are no perfect people.

We owed a lot in school bills. We pastored small churches and it was hard to pay it back, but it was worth it.

Getting involved in the spiritual things at Olivet was my training ground and time to get grounded firm and deep in what I believed and in my relationship with God. It made all the difference in the Christian adult I have been these almost 40 years. But it was because I CHOSE the spiritual life of a Nazarene college.

Just depends on whom you talk to as to what a college is like.

Barb

[Steven Martinez]

PLNU is actually cheaper than the other Christian schools of similar accademic merrit in Southern Califonia. APU, Biola and Westmont are thousands more expensive than PLNU. Plus with the Nazarene scholarships and district matching grant, I recieved over $10,000 dollars just for being a Nazarene.

[Greg Farra]

My daughter just got accepted at MVNU, along with a couple of other local private schools. MVNU is a bit less expensive than those, but we have not seen what we're going to be offered in way of scholarships and aid, other than the Nazarene dicount. I told her to let them know I am a Local Minister and taking the COS. I figured it can't hurt.

[Bob Evans]

My son is a senior at Michigan State. It's a fine public land grant school where he is getting a good education. He reporeted to me that in one of his classes one of the professors always ends the year with a trip out for pizza. Where tradition holds that the goal is to see how drunk you can get the professor.

My son is not living for the Lord. He boughts some drinks in the process. He later told me and his monther about it. We have had to learn to keep a strait face when we hear these things and in this case we did as well. His final comment in the story was I guess that would not have happened at a Nazarene school?

When he choose Michigan state I told him that he was assuming the debt so it was ghis choice. But in light of that story and a million others as well as a recent trip to enc if I had it to do again I would assume all the debt and probably die trying to pay it.

[Donna Adams]

Bob: those things are not supposed to happen at Christian schools, but they do. My cousin got into drugs while at a Naz school...not every student there is a Christian, and there are activities that happen that should not. My daughter is the only one of my three children that attened college, she is now paying off her loans and school debts, it's a hardship, but we would not trade that experience for her for anything. It changed her life forever.

[Bob Evans]

The entire atnowphere is wrong. I realize that troubles happen at Nazarene schools. But the biggest value for me were Godly men of learning and the life long friends that I made.

None of those things is happening at state.

that for me is what makes the christian college worth the price.

[Billy Cox]

The entire atnowphere is wrong. I realize that troubles happen at Nazarene schools. But the biggest value for me were Godly men of learning and the life long friends that I made.

None of those things is happening at state.


I suspect that any one of the multitude of campus ministries operating on state school campuses would tell a different story.

[Mike Schutz]

This was clear to me as I worked with student development professionals from secular universities. In a discussion of underage drinking on campus, the VP for Student Development of a major university stated, "We know freshmen are going to binge drink, and this will result in a loss of students. We just wait until those students flunk out, and we invest our time and energy in the rest. We just hope there will not be many car accidents and date rapes along the way." (No, I am not kidding, and no this in not hyperbole.) When I responded with, "That is just not acceptable," the reply was, "Well, those of you who work at small colleges have advantages we don't have at __________. Oh, you're from Eastern Nazarene: that's not the real world."

Those who work in campus ministry on secular college campuses know the situation. Whether it is William Willimon at Duke saying, "Duke kills Christians; I'm here to save a few," or InterVarsity in their fund-raising campaigns who point to the large number of Christian young people who walk away from the Lord while at secular colleges, the difference is real.