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Judy Hamilton
25th November 2007, 01:03 AM (01:03)
How many American soldiers will lose their lives because of this
anti-war movie?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58802

That is the first question anyone who sees the recently released
anti-American film should ask. I hope
it will fail to find an audience in the United States. I have no doubt it
will be a hit with those who seek to destroy America.

While the pattern of Hollywood's anti-American commitment is the same as
it was in Vietnam, one of the major differences between Vietnam and Iraq is
the timing of the Hollywood movies. At least Hollywood generally waited until
the troops were out of Vietnam before their movies were released vilifying
American soldiers. Today, the studios are competing to get the movies out NOW
while our troops are still in the line of fire.

In my view and in the view of my fellow veterans, Redacted will cause untold
numbers of American casualties. The movie goes to extreme efforts to cast
the American troops in the worst possible light. In the film, a group of
psychopathic, demented American soldiers rape and kill an innocent Iraqi girl and
her family. If that sounds familiar, twenty years ago De Palma Casualties
of War featured another group of psychopathic, demented American soldiers
who rape and kill an innocent Vietnamese girl. Redacted implies that American
troops commit war crimes, are out of control and have total disregard for the
Iraqi people especially women and children. This is the same harsh rhetoric
that echoed through the halls of Congress and the streets of San Francisco and
New York during the Vietnam War. Our Congress, Hollywood and academics
became convinced that we, the American troops serving in Vietnam, were war criminals


Remembering all the movies in which the leading role was a Vietnam Veteran
either committing or permanently damaged by the war crimes he had witnessed, I
have to ask this question about Redacted: Are Writer/Producer Brian DePalma
and Financier Mark Cuban useful dupes for the Islamic terrorists in the same
way that Jane Fonda was for the Communists during Vietnam or
do these guys really believe that American troops are war criminals?

Today there are war crime claims against American troops similar to those
three decades ago against Vietnam Veterans. The most vocal critic today has
been Jesse MacBeth, a former Army ranger who claimed his fellow troops hung and
burned hundreds of Iraqi civilians. He talked about his many medals including
his Purple Heart and he quickly became the poster child of the anti-war,
anti-American, and anti-military organizations.

The problem was MacBeth never served in combat or even left the U.S. In
fact, he was a boot camp "wash out," tossed out of the Army after only 44 days.
When he was indicted for filing false disability claims with the Veterans
Administration, MacBeth was tried, convicted and sent to Federal prison.

When Rush Limbaugh condemned him as a phony soldier, it was Rush Limbaugh
who encountered the wrath of many in congress attacking him but not MacBeth.
MacBeths own admission that he lied, mattered little to those who stampeded
to this phonys defense accusing Limbaugh of falsely attacking a U.S.
soldier. To his credit, Limbaugh didn't blink.

American troops are not perfect but they are the best and most humane that
the world has to offer. How can we stop these unfounded and vicious attacks
on our troops?

Those who accused us, the Vietnam veterans, of war crimes thirty years ago
must be exposed for their false accusations. For the past three years the
Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation ("VVLF") has worked diligently to prove that
the troops were maligned. We believe that our last call to duty is to stop the
lies about the Vietnam soldiers in order to stop the same treatment of the
American troops today.

We believe we must send the message to Congress and especially to those
individuals in our government who are doing again today what was done to us
during and after the Vietnam War.

Col Bud Day, Americas highest decorated veteran, is the Chairman of the
VVLF Board and the majority of the board members are former POWs held in the
Hanoi Hilton. For them, this is personal. Every Vietnam Veteran has been
forced to fight the stain of war crimes allegations since the war ended more than
thirty years ago. POWs were threatened with their lives to "confess" to
being war criminals, only to return to an American public that was soon to be
brainwashed by Hollywood


I am personally familiar with several of these alleged war crimes having
cared for casualities with the First Infantry Division in 1968.

They are in no manner war criminals, and neither am I. And neither are the hundreds of thousands of other
Vietnam veterans falsely accused by Hollywood, the media, and Congress. The lies
are forever recorded in the Congressional Record. VVLF plans to submit for
inclusion to the Congressional Record the true facts repudiating the lies that
have persisted in the Congressional Record for almost forty years.

As a final indignity, DePalma closes the movie with a montage of picture of
dead Iraqis. Before the montage begins, the screen goes black and then the
title "Collateral Damage" comes up with the claim "Actual photographs from the
Iraq War" printed beneath it, and then the slide show begins. One problem
though ...among the emotionally draining pictures of real dead bodies, I began
to notice that the actors from the film resemble those seen dead. Did they
really pose their actors in mortal positions to pull at the audience's
heartstrings?

In the beginning, the film is touted as fictionalized. Exactly how
are we suppose to know what is fiction and what is not? Few would realize
the cost in Americans lives and blood Redacted and similar films might exact
when they are shown in foreign theaters

Wilson L. Deaton
27th November 2007, 01:06 AM (01:06)
Judy,

Given your recent experience with the poetry reading and your statements about how you would not have gone if you had known what it was like, I am finding it hard to understand why you would have subjected yourself to this film. Did you not know what it was about?

Wilson

Judy Hamilton
27th November 2007, 08:45 PM (20:45)
Judy,

Given your recent experience with the poetry reading and your statements about how you would not have gone if you had known what it was like, I am finding it hard to understand why you would have subjected yourself to this film. Did you not know what it was about?

Wilson
I was placed in a bind..and would have needed to take a
taxi home. a similar situation happened 35-36 years ago with the
movie Exorcist..

Wilson L. Deaton
27th November 2007, 11:04 PM (23:04)
I was placed in a bind..and would have needed to take a
taxi home. a similar situation happened 35-36 years ago with the
movie Exorcist..

35 years ago? Let's see, locked in a racquetball court, lost on a hike, motorcycling in Cambodia... Apparently this sort of thing isn't new with you! :eek: I suppose it goes with the territory of living life as an adventure rather than in an easy chair.

Wilson

Gina Stevenson
27th November 2007, 11:13 PM (23:13)
Hey! That's exactly how I happened upon the one Star Wars movie I saw: "Empire Strikes Back," I believe it was. Car was in shop, rode one Wednesday with someone else, and they were going to stop at the movie on the way back home, so I tho't, "Oh, why not ......." ;)

Judy Hamilton
27th November 2007, 11:17 PM (23:17)
35 years ago? Let's see, locked in a racquetball court, lost on a hike, motorcycling in Cambodia... Apparently this sort of thing isn't new with you! :eek:

Wilson

Remember that movie the Exorcist?? Linda Blair was the possessed teen.
It was the rage in the mid 70's. My sister Sharon was living with John and I and I knew full well I did not want see this movie, and did not want Sharon to see it. She would not respond well to NO..so I posed to go to the movie and then come home and tell her why she was not to view it.
So my plan was to go with two other couples in the early evening, at the mall. I planned to politely slip away, tell the others I would rather browse the mall while they went to this horror movie. Our preferred time was sold out, so we three couples were destined to go to the LATE show..(no browsing the mall as the stores were all closed) I sat between my husband and Larry Block (he would someday be our pediatrician) must have nearly pulled the skin off their arms,, slithered down in my seat , so to NOT view the screen, however could not block the sound out

that was the Exorcist..now this movie...let me just say..that I will not ever go out with that person again..
dating is not for sissy's:eek:

Gina Stevenson
27th November 2007, 11:21 PM (23:21)
Agreed. That is one movie I've never seen, and never want to, either, along with Psycho, and a few other weird things we've heard of over the years.

[returned to add that Psycho only came to mind because of this one weird gift-suggestion flyer seen in the last day or two ... one was a "Psycho shower curtain" imprinted w-the sort of thing occurring in Psycho.]

Bob Evans
27th November 2007, 11:33 PM (23:33)
The interesting thing about all the anti war movies in the last couple of years is that there not doing alll that wellin the ratings.

Wilson L. Deaton
27th November 2007, 11:54 PM (23:54)
You know how someone falls and it isn't funny that they fell, but the manner in which they fell is? Yeah, that's about the same as this story. I'm sorry you had to go through this but I confess to being amused! :M)

Wilson