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Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 01:47 AM (01:47)
Its just after 6.30 now here.
Got no money to go north.
Car is out at present.
Doubt if there us enough money for a funeral.
Just lost.

Joel Merrill
25th November 2007, 01:51 AM (01:51)
I'm sorry to hear that Ian. I'm praying for you right now.

Joel

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 01:59 AM (01:59)
What do i do now, where is God when I need Him?

Roland Hearn
25th November 2007, 02:16 AM (02:16)
Ian,
I can't imagine how difficult this must be, I am so sorry to hear this news. I'll be praying for you. Your question reflects your pain and no trivial answer will suffice. God hears your pain.

Anita F. Henck
25th November 2007, 02:19 AM (02:19)
Ian--
I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

In answer to your question -- God is always where we need Him. Sometimes we find Him by seeking Him. Other times, when we are calm and wait on Him, we sense His presence. I am praying you will seek a place of quiet rest and wait for Him. He is near.

I am reminded of a prayer my Dad often used in worship services -- "Seek ye the Lord while He may be found; call upon Him while He is near. Let the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon." It's found in Isaiah 55:6-7

Blessings on you, even in your loss,
==anita==

Joel Merrill
25th November 2007, 02:22 AM (02:22)
What do i do now, where is God when I need Him?

My dear brother Ian

Remember on your depression thread how I was talking about feeling so alone and yet believing God was there even though I couldn't feel him at all. Sometimes we have to go through those times. Sometimes we just have to say, "God I believe you even if I never hear from you again." You will hear from him again. I hate to mention this because it has become cliche but remember the poem, "Foot Prints in the Sand"? It is very true. I don't know what exactly you do now. I don't know the specifics of your situation. There is little I can do from here. But prayer is no small thing. At the moment I think it is best to just let the tears flow. There is nothing unmanly about that. Pour your heart out to God even if you can't feel him. Then I would get on the phone and talk to a funeral home where your Mom lives. Some of the arrangements can be done over the phone. Do you have any relatives who can help with the money? Do you have a friend who can loan you a vehicle to get up there? I'm praying, I really am.

Joel

Edith K. Thurmond
25th November 2007, 02:23 AM (02:23)
What do i do now, where is God when I need Him?

Oh, Ian, sincere sympathies to you about the loss of your mother. I don't have any answers for you but do know that God is always present, even when we can't see or feel his presence.

Would you call that co-worker friend of yours that you spoke of earlier: the one you plan to get together with next week for coffee or tea? And Ian, NOW is the time to reach out to the clergy at your church; it may be very difficult for you to do so but you need real live clergy to be with you during this time. This is one of those major times in your life and people will be there if you but reach out and do it in faith. I am believing that you will have everything you need - spiritually, physically, and emotionally - to go on this journey and "down this road."

Below is a prayer that I sent someone today who is discouraged and now I find it appropriate to post it for you. It is a prayer that we sing every week after Holy Communion and I love the words and the tune. I'm trusting that the last line will become prophetic as to the end of your perceived journey alone and that you will depart London and be able to be in Scotland for this very important time in your life.

God be in my head, And in my understanding;
God be in mine eyes, And in my looking;
God be in my mouth, And in my speaking;
God be in my heart, And in my thinking;
God be at mine end, And at my departing. Amen.

Protection and provision prayers for you,

Mike Wooldridge
25th November 2007, 02:48 AM (02:48)
Ian,
Please check your Private Messages.
I'm praying for you.

Hans Deventer
25th November 2007, 02:53 AM (02:53)
Ian, I'm very sorry to hear this. Sometimes there isn't much more to say than "keep hanging on". Paul fought the good fight and kept the faith. That wasn't something inevitable, apparently. If live has a purpose, and I think it does, it has to be to learn to hang on and trust God when we simply see no clear reason to do so. There is a whole lot I don't understand about God. And the questions keep multiplying. All I can do is look at the cross and somehow understand that the way down, is actually the way up, and that God's love will indeed see us through, if needed, through death.

I'll pray for you, brother.

Anne and Dwayne Hood
25th November 2007, 03:09 AM (03:09)
Ian, please know that we on Naznet love you very much, and care. And, Jesus cares.
Edith and I have experienced this, and have learned that He cares, and will be there with us, to help lift our heavy burden. Even, when He may seem to be far away, He is there.
He is there, Hallelujah!
He is there, Amen!
He is there, you can touch HIm.
Let's just Praise His name again.

Lord, plese pick Ian up and carry him, during this time of heartache and pain. Let him feel your presence near him, as He calls your name again. Be near him, Lord I pray.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 06:47 AM (06:47)
Sorry folks

Would seem i need lots of money.
Health, mine isnt good at all.

Brad Mercer
25th November 2007, 07:15 AM (07:15)
Blast! I had a longer response and lost it.

I love you Ian, and I'm so sorry for your loss. I really, really am.

Love,
Brad

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 07:18 AM (07:18)
Just left a message on churches prayer line briefly explaining everything. All i can do right now.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 07:56 AM (07:56)
We got an undertaker. It being a sudden death there will be delays with police, as normal, involved, and an autopsy. So things are moving slowly. We dont know if there is room in family grave, if not will have mum creamated and ashes put on grave. My mum really died of a brocken heart, haveing not returned to own home, and because i wasnt near. I expect in end autopsy will show a simple heart failure, she died in her sleep.

Wanda Van Winkle
25th November 2007, 08:00 AM (08:00)
Ian, I am so so sorry for your loss. I'm glad you got to see her recently when she was alive. I hope everything works out.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 09:32 AM (09:32)
A none christian friend in Law Enforcment heard, and just phoned me from Australia, so kind of him.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 09:44 AM (09:44)
Can you pray for my cousin Robert who is doing everything for me up north. Robert is a wonderfull man,, like us all brought up in the church. He dosent attend now, but his heart is one of gold. He has taken it badly, as we all are, was so unexpected.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 10:07 AM (10:07)
Sorry again, just need to keep talking. Its been very weird this year. We got both our moms into homes, then shortly after they both have died.

Judy Hamilton
25th November 2007, 11:05 AM (11:05)
I am praying for you Ian

Judy

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 11:46 AM (11:46)
Thank you Judy, need those prayers, got to admit i am taking it bad.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 12:03 PM (12:03)
Mom stopped paying into her insurance, after a lifetime, four years ago, we didnt know this, now they say we dont get a penny? Son and his wife are desperate to go to funerlal, but we have no means of getting accomodation for them, Boy its all going downhill fast

Amanda Contento
25th November 2007, 02:28 PM (14:28)
Oh Ian our prayers are with you here.

lots of (((hugs))) too

Bruce Carriker
25th November 2007, 02:52 PM (14:52)
Praying for you and your family, Ian. Sometimes that's the only...and the best...thing we can do.

Judy Hamilton
25th November 2007, 03:21 PM (15:21)
Thank you Judy, need those prayers, got to admit i am taking it bad.
it is Ok ... grieve Ian..stoic and private
this is how i perceive Brits and Scots ..to grieve privately,
most of your naznet family would cry Ian..with out apology

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 03:41 PM (15:41)
Oh i crying for all the love i forget to tell her, too late now.

Judy Hamilton
25th November 2007, 03:57 PM (15:57)
Oh i crying for all the love i forget to tell her, too late now.


Be gentle with yourself Ian..

Mike Wooldridge
25th November 2007, 04:03 PM (16:03)
Ian, sometimes it's what you do as much as what you say. I'm sure your Mom knew how much you did to take care of her when she had to move to the nursing home. I'm crying with you, brother.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 04:11 PM (16:11)
Tell folks you love em, over and over again, wish i had!

Jim Franklin
25th November 2007, 04:17 PM (16:17)
Father God and Brother Jesus, I present my dear brother, Ian and his family and his desire to be at his Mum's service and burial. From our distant places we can only pray for Your power, guidance and comfort to be there for us when we can not be. Give him and the family the Peace, "that passes all understanding." Guard him from fretting so that he can be the strength for His family that they need him to be and a glory to You. Amen.

Greg Farra
25th November 2007, 04:43 PM (16:43)
My condolences, Ian. I know this is a very difficult time. :basic04

Even in the midst of your pain, though, God is there. Our Lord is a man of sorrows, aquainted with grief.

Gina Stevenson
25th November 2007, 04:45 PM (16:45)
Oh, Ian. 'Pray that you and Christine can find some way to make it up north; also, that your vehicle isn't overly-$$ when it comes to repairing it.

{{{ hugs }}} to the both of you.

Barb Bouldrey
25th November 2007, 04:48 PM (16:48)
I am so sorry that you both lost your mothers so close together.

There is no way to explain the dept of grief, even when you have experienced it. It is such a deep hurt.

Just today I thought about my mom and our last day together. I always think about the things I wish I could have done and would have said that day if I had known it was her last.

And my mom did not have enough to pay for her funeral. The 7 kids have had to pay the balance. So, of course, we did not inherit anything except a few things we each took from her apartment.

But we inherited her gift of laughter and sense of humor.
We inherited a close family love.

It is so sad when our mothers die and we realize that they had almost nothing of this world's goods. Yet my mom would tell you that her most prized treasures were her 7 children, their spouses and her 18 grandchildren....and she never felt poor.

Praying with you in your grief.

Barb

Dave McClung
25th November 2007, 04:48 PM (16:48)
Its just after 6.30 now here.
Got no money to go north.
Car is out at present.
Doubt if there us enough money for a funeral.
Just lost.

Ian

I am so sorry. Linda and I will pray for you and your family.

If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you? Do you have an PayPal account?

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 06:26 PM (18:26)
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Ian

I am so sorry. Linda and I will pray for you and your family.

If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you? Do you have an PayPal account?


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David Showalter
25th November 2007, 06:43 PM (18:43)
Ian, just want you to read this and be reminded that you are loved with the eternal-steadfast love of God, and that you have many folks on this side of the Atlantic that care about you and your family. We are one in the bond of love, when one of us is hurting and weeps, we hurt and weep together.

Glenn Harris
25th November 2007, 06:45 PM (18:45)
Ian

I am so sorry. Linda and I will pray for you and your family.

If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you? Do you have an PayPal account?




I was thinking the same thing Dave. Ian, if there is some way to open up a new Paypal account or to remember your's it would help tremendously. I hesitate to wire money because the high cost is money you could use a lot more than Western Union. I know what it was like to lose my mother but I don't know what it was like to lose your mother so all I can say is that we are praying for you and your family. I also know what it is like to be a long ways away from home and not have the resources to get there for an emergency. Helpless doesn't begin to describe it.

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 06:55 PM (18:55)
Tried pay [pal for life of me it dosent work

Dave McClung
25th November 2007, 07:00 PM (19:00)
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Ian

I am so sorry. Linda and I will pray for you and your family.

If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you? Do you have an PayPal account?


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Ian, you didn't answer my question. If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you?

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 07:15 PM (19:15)
Tried a new paypal acount, ok ne expert, didnt work

Judy Hamilton
25th November 2007, 07:16 PM (19:16)
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Ian, you didn't answer my question. If some of us wanted to help in a financial way, how could we get some money to you?





Dave..I wired money to someone in Cambodia..
a third world country..and the monies reached
them without a problem..and the person in Phnom Phen
did not even have a mailing address nor phone contact

Judy

Ian Gentles
25th November 2007, 07:20 PM (19:20)
Paypal demands old info havent got it

Dana Grant
25th November 2007, 08:27 PM (20:27)
Paypal demands old info havent got it


Maybe you could start a new paypal account in Christine's name or something?

Anne and Dwayne Hood
25th November 2007, 09:20 PM (21:20)
Ian, I send small gifts of money to my neice in London (for her baby) by paypal through her gmail address. Maybe your son could set up a Paypal account for you.
As someone told you, go ahead and cry. I sat in church tonight and cried over my dad that died in 1973. I was thinking of the two black teens in our church that has just lost their dad. There is no shame in crying. Jesus cried when he heard about Lazarus.

Dennis M. Scott
25th November 2007, 09:58 PM (21:58)
I really am sorry for your loss, and the difficulties added. We care about you and pray for you.

Billy Cox
26th November 2007, 12:15 AM (00:15)
Ian, Usually your PayPal account username is your email address. Try signing on with that and if you can't remember the password, the PayPal website should have some means of sending you the password.

Gina Stevenson
26th November 2007, 12:32 AM (00:32)
Ian, Usually your PayPal account username is your email address. Try signing on with that and if you can't remember the password, the PayPal website should have some means of sending you the password.

Don't worry re that "some means," either, Ian. Usually they've asked you to answer some clue-type question and, if you can answer it again, they'll know it's you so that they can go ahead & send that password. ;)

Lee Branum
26th November 2007, 12:34 AM (00:34)
I'm sure sorry to hear of the passing of your mother, Ian. We'll remember to lift you and your need of His Presence to the Throne of Grace. We truly care about you, and we trust that you'll recognize your fellow NazNetters' love for you. God Bless You and be close to you at this time.

LeeB

Hans Deventer
26th November 2007, 03:38 AM (03:38)
Ian, transferring money within the EU is free. I have a Paypal account and I could transfer money to you if need be.
All I would need from you are your bank account details.

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 07:04 AM (07:04)
I dont know answer folks, could i e mail bank details?

Hans Deventer
26th November 2007, 07:08 AM (07:08)
I dont know answer folks, could i e mail bank details?

Yes. You would need name of your Bank, address, account number, and most importantly, the IBAN and Swift/BIC codes.

(The SWIFT code is the number that identifies banks for the purpose of overseas transfers it stands for “Society for World-wide Interbank Financial Telecommunications”. The BIC is the same and stands for Bank Identification Code).

Randy Wise
26th November 2007, 08:17 AM (08:17)
Ian, I am so sorry to read this about your Mom. You have my prayers.

Randy

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 09:31 AM (09:31)
Yes. You would need name of your Bank, address, account number, and most importantly, the IBAN and Swift/BIC codes.

(The SWIFT code is the number that identifies banks for the purpose of overseas transfers it stands for “Society for World-wide Interbank Financial Telecommunications”. The BIC is the same and stands for Bank Identification Code).


Will seek this info and send it to those who have asked.

Billie Goodson
26th November 2007, 09:50 AM (09:50)
Ian,

My prayers are with you brother. I trust that God will find a way to send a comforter to you, and that the Comforter will calm your heart. The passing of a parent is one of the hardest things we must face in this world. It is also one of the things that as we look back on, we learn just how much they taught us, and continue teaching us long after they are gone.

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 10:25 AM (10:25)
Sent bank info to those who asked. Maybe Hans Paypal is best? Then he could foreward anything.

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 10:59 AM (10:59)
Left message with church yesterday, no come back, way it goes :(

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 11:03 AM (11:03)
Miracle that would help is money being released from Mom in laws house sale, as of NOW!

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 11:14 AM (11:14)
Anyone wishing to contact me use following jwgentles@aol.com

Marilyn Lawson
26th November 2007, 01:56 PM (13:56)
Ian

Hugs to you. I am so sorry about your mom passing away.
Kevin says Hi and is sorry about your mom.

Wish I could do more.

Love ya!!

Marl

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 02:00 PM (14:00)
TY all

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 04:49 PM (16:49)
Post Mortin, or whatever its called, wont be till tommorow

Robin Hatcher
26th November 2007, 05:10 PM (17:10)
Ian,

I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your mother. My prayers are with you.

Ann Smith
26th November 2007, 05:34 PM (17:34)
Ian,
Having lost both of my parents, I have come to believe one is never ready to give up their parents. Daddy death was fairly sudden, but Mother's was over many years. It was painful both ways. I pray that you will find the strength you need during this extremely difficult time.. Ann

Ian Gentles
26th November 2007, 05:37 PM (17:37)
No autopsy as yet

Rance Gould
26th November 2007, 08:47 PM (20:47)
Ian, I"m very sorry to hear of your mother's death. Please know that I will be praying for you and your family regularly. god knows your heartache.

Marg Shurtliff
26th November 2007, 10:53 PM (22:53)
Praying for you , Ian , and that things will work out for you to get to Scotland .