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BobHunt
18th December 2005, 02:37 PM (14:37)
"If we wept as much in the prayer closet as devout Jews have done at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, we would now be enjoying a prevailing, purging revival! If we would return to apostolic practice - waiting upon the Lord for apostolic power -- we would then go forth to apostolic possibilities! This is the hour when we are asked over and over again, "Is everybody happy?" Gods's purpose for us is not happiness, but HOLINESS!
What a fever of church building there is just now, yet without unctionized preachers those altars will never see anxious penitents. The ugly fact is that the altar fires are either out or burning very low. The prayer meeting is dead or dying. By our attitude to prayer we tell God that what was begun in the Spirit we can find in the flesh. What church ever asks its candidating ministers what time they spend in prayer? Ministers who do not spend two hours a day in prayer are not worth a dime a dozen, degrees - or no degrees. Where are our unctionized pulpit crusaders? Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men. Preachers who used to sow seed; now they string intellectual pearls. Preaching affects time; prayer affects eternity. The pulpit can be a shop window to display our talents; the closet speaks death to display." Leonard Ravenhill

Ian Gentles
18th December 2005, 05:16 PM (17:16)
I beleive the fires are almost out in UK

Ian Robertson
18th December 2005, 08:35 PM (20:35)
Bob Hunt,

That was a great old quote from Leonard Ravenhill. As a teen, I was the pianist on a team led by Leonard Ravenhill, Maynard James, and other revivalists at the Killadees Campmeeting in Ireland and elsewhere.

Back in those days, first Hitler then Stalin were the antichrists. Israel had just become a nation. "The end is near." The messages were very legalistic. I remember Leonard preaching, "I'd rather you had TB than a TV." We had great prayer meetings, and can even remember 900 of us spending a night of prayer at Charlotte Chapel in Edinburgh. We prayed against the Baptists, Calvinists, and anyone else who differed with us.

In the process, we lost at least two generations of young people, including young people in Britain. Ian Gentiles stated, "I believe the fires are almost out in the UK."

Why?

I've asked the same question of leaders in Britain. They have no plan.

However, I see something exciting happening among younger pastors like Barrie Thomas in Carlisle, England, who started doing something totally different in a crime-infested lower-income area. Nazarene News said something about him last week. There are some bright spots.

Here's another question! How come the Free Methodist Church has at least three congregations in England that average over 1,500 in attendance? The old holiness preachers would say that they must have lowered the standard! It's time to start building relationships with people who need the Lord, or we will lose the next (post modern) generation.