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Hans Deventer
18th December 2005, 11:52 PM (23:52)
Now first of all, I haven't read a book by Yancey that wasn't worthwhile reading. As allways, he is very honest and not at all smoothing things over. Second, he can write. I started out on Friday reading the book, and finished the 314 pages last night. A book of similar size took me weeks to read a while ago, so hats off to Yancey.

But back to the subject. People can be disappointed with God, and one such a person was the occasion for him to start writing. For starters, he went to a cabin in Colorado, stayed there for two weeks and did little else than reading the Bible from cover to cover. Which I think is what we rarely do. I tend to pick and choose, but only in reading the Bible through, you get some impression of the development of the story and the way God deals with people.
One of the interesting things he found is that we often long for God to be clear in His guidings and His presence, and think faith would be so much easier if that were the case. However, the Bible tells differently. When God was very clearly present with his people in the desert, liberating them and guiding and feeding them on a daily basis, after 40 years, only 2 believers were left: Joshua and Kaleb. And when Our Lord walked this earth for 3 years, teaching and healing, not that many believed either.

Also, we generally long for the "why" answer. We all know, the Bible does not give this answer regarding suffering in general, nor regarding our personal suffering. Job is well known for NOT getting an answer to the multitude of questions he has. But I really liked how Yancey compared Job to the book of Lamentations, and found precious little difference in the complaints, while the "why" of God's punishment was absolutely clear in this specific case!

So perhaps we're not always asking the right questions.......

Anyway, of course this book is not the definitive answer to all of our questions. In the end, he had spent so much time with the guy who's questions and giving up on God had initiated the book, but still, he could not help him find faith again. So what is it that made Job keep his faith despite the horrible ordeal he was in, and made others lose it? Apparently, it is not the disappointment itself but something else that is at stake, that enables one to survive the disappointments, and another to give up on God altogether. The book does not answer this question. But it sure helps you to look at the questions from a Biblical perspective, and helps you to ask the right questions. And along the way, gives you some answers as well.

Wanda Van Winkle
24th December 2005, 10:43 AM (10:43)
Thanks, Hans. I just bought it for $1 online! :basic01

Hans Deventer
24th December 2005, 11:26 AM (11:26)
Thanks, Hans. I just bought it for $1 online! :basic01

Well, for that price, you can hardly become disappointed with Yancey! :basic05

Wanda Van Winkle
24th December 2005, 11:38 AM (11:38)
Well, for that price, you can hardly become disappointed with Yancey! :basic05

True! Just about anyone's words are worth that price.

Brian Blankenship
6th September 2007, 07:42 PM (19:42)
I read this book quite a while back. Its actually Yancey's study of the book of Job. It is very analytical, but a really good study on the book of Job. I studied this to try to get a grasp on my own disappointment with God. I would recommend it for those that want to know more about the problem of evil.

Here's a thought. The book of Job is not about a man's faith in God. Its about God's faith in a man, that no matter what Satan would throw at him, he would remain faithful to God.:)

Anne and Dwayne Hood
6th September 2007, 08:17 PM (20:17)
Brian, Maybe I misunderstood the point Phillip Yancey was trying to get across, because I did not like that book you just recommended. It seemed like to me that he was saying God was not interested or concerned with little things that were happening in our life. I read it several years ago, and knew another lady that did not like it either.

Brian Blankenship
6th September 2007, 10:23 PM (22:23)
Brian, Maybe I misunderstood the point Phillip Yancey was trying to get across, because I did not like that book you just recommended. It seemed like to me that he was saying God was not interested or concerned with little things that were happening in our life. I read it several years ago, and knew another lady that did not like it either.

If you remember, Job really begins to question God and God finally takes him back and says, where were you when the world began? In fact, God asks Job question after question that He knows Job doesn't have an answer for. When the truth is finally revealed to Job, he confesses his sin, and repents, and his relationship with the Lord is restored.

Job really isn't a book about how God cares about the little things in life. Its about the really big things, suffering, the problem of evil, and how the devil tries to do everything he can, that its all one big setup between God and the devil, etc... and we are somehow stuck inbetween. Read chapter one of the book of Job and you find that the devil goes to God and sets things up so that the devil can attack Job, but not kill him. All of this is done without Job's knowledge.

I understand where you are coming from. But I'm not sure you understand what I'm talking about.:fav14

Brian Blankenship
6th October 2007, 12:15 AM (00:15)
Hans, didn't know you had already reviewed this earlier as you knew in a later post.

Your comment about "why" being the wrong question to ask. Ron Dunn in his book, When Heaven is Silent addresses this same issue. He speaks of losing his son to suicide, which ultimately led to his own deep depression. For many years, he struggled with the pain of this. Then through a process of discovery, he found that he had been asking the wrong question.

The question which truly helped him wasn't "why" which often times leaves us with a dilemma, and leaves us often in a pit of dispair. The new question was "what do I do now." This new question became healing for him. Instead of being in a downward spiral this new question brought healing, and it also led to a new ministry born out of his struggle.

"What do I do now" is often what we must ask each time we are dealt a situation that brings us deep pain and frustration, and often time that is where we find the Lord is more than willing to help us.

Ian Gentles
6th October 2007, 10:34 AM (10:34)
Yes Dunns book was a great read.