What do these verses mean ??

[Mike Sullivan]

(1 Corinthians 6:19-20 NIV) [19] Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; [20] you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body. then in (1 Corinthians 3:16-17 NIV) [16] Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? [17] If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God&'s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.. In Cor 6 verse 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? and verse 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? Still in 1 Cor. 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.

[Ryan Scott]

I imagine these are awfully contextualized to the situation of the time. I'm taking a class on 1st Corinthians in about two weeks, so perhaps I can weigh in better as I read in preparation.

[Mike Sullivan]

I imagine these are awfully contextualized to the situation of the time. I'm taking a class on 1st Corinthians in about two weeks, so perhaps I can weigh in better as I read in preparation.
I am not sure it is that deep , I will check back , thanks

[Dale Cozby]

I imagine these are awfully contextualized to the situation of the time.

Is this double speak for "these scriptures can be dismissed and ignored if we don't like what they say?':p

[Ryan Scott]

No, but I realize an analogy like "temple" most likely meant something different for the Corinthians than it does in my first impressions of reading it. Also, I'm guessing my concept of judgment is quite divergent from that of the 1st Century, as well as the concept of angels and the term "goeth to law."

I was just saying, I probably need a little more understanding of the context before I make real conclusions on it.

[Hans Deventer]

Is this double speak for "these scriptures can be dismissed and ignored if we don't like what they say?':p

No, it means you need to think while trying to understand what it means. That may be a stretch for some, of course. :rolleyes:

[Anne and Dwayne Hood]

Mike please explain what you think these verses mean. Our church buildings are not our temples. Our hearts are God's temple. In churches, there are many stones, and if we could see them, we might be able to see faces of those who came ahead of us, and laid the groundwork, for the building that now exists for us , who are the temples of God, to come to this building to worship together--sort of possibly in the presence of God, and other stones, that helped construct this building built by human hands. Now, do I sound totally, out of line and, maybe, did no know exactly, how to construct my sentence? We are living stones, but those that have gone ahead, are also, living stones.
The church here in Athens, Tn. was first constructed, then while we were here, another building was constructed, and now they have another beautiful building, that is nearer to town, and in a better location. But, as we worship there, together with God and His people, the COTN in Athens, Tn. beginning with the first structure, is made up of living stones, that have gone ahead, and living stones, that are still here, and each one, is the temple of God.
Does this make any sense at all to you?

[Mike Sullivan]

More thoughts on these verses (1 Corinthians 6:19-20 NIV) [19] Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; [20] you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body. then in (1 Corinthians 3:16-17 NIV) [16] Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? [17] If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God&'s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.. ," ( me again , and my guitar thoughts. I Will ask another question , does this refer to us a Christians or to the Church . A buildIng , of sticks and stones and fine glass?or maybe both ? I am going to use Capps I am tried of small letters I can hardley read .IF IT IS TRUE "GOD DWELLETH WITH US , AND IS IN US "? HOW SHOULD WE THINK OF OURSELVES , AND HOW SHOULD WE THINK OF EACH OTHER ? HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT THE CHURCH , ? Can we say that God will punish, and does punish all that dishonour His spiritual temples whether it be a building or our body ? If He is always present with us , God it seems is saying ," Be Holy, for I am Holy. " If this is so ,then should our temple-like sanctity influence our daily lifes and our conversations ? It is not a Honky Tonk song but it ain't bad.

[Randy Wise]

My Thoughts on the temple:

I was thinking that a way one would defile their body was through sexual immorality. Paul was warning against such defiling acts with the prefix of what we received and the price paid for that gift also noting that our bodies no longer just belong to us, but also to God who also occupies that body by His Holy Spirit. Therefore it is our duty to Honor God by keeping ourselves from sexual sin.

Randy

[Mike Sullivan]

Mike please explain what you think thiese verses mean. Our church buildings are not our temples. Our hearts are God's temple. In churches, there re many stones, and if we could see them, we might be able to see faces of thoses who came ahead of us, and laid the groundwork, for the building that now exists for us t, who are the temples of God to come to this building to worship together--sort of possibly in the presence of God, and other stones, that helped construct this building built by human hands. Now, do I sound totally, out of linea nd maybe did no know exactly, how to construct my sentence. We are living stones, but those that have gone ahead, are also, living stones.
The church here in Athens, Tn. was first constructed, then while we were here, another building was constructed, and now they have another beautiful building, that is nearer to town and in a better location. But, as we worship there, together with God and His people, the COTN in Athens, Tn. beginning with the first structure, is made up of living tones, that have gone ahead, and living stones, that are still here and each one, is the temple of God.
Does this make any sense at all to you? Do we not set aside a building for the purpose of worshiping Him ? And as long as we have it set aside should we not repect it as His Home not a mere building ? Anne I agree with you , our bodies are his dewlling place . Not the building , I don't know about you but I will not walk up on a pulpit . I know what a stage is , I will leap on a stage , with a guitar in my hand .I am just asking questions , < if we destroy this body , before it's natural time what is that Anne ? That is where I was going with this , is there a reason to end life before it's natural time ? sickness , loss of money , loss of a wife or husband , we are there now Anne 1 Cor 3:16-17 . 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. In my 20's and 30' and mid way into my 40's I drank a lot , I drank more than most and not as much as a few . Smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day , so not so much as what Rynn is thinking , I was just reading the verses , and started to wonder , did it mean that my younger life I had destroyed the body , (Temple ) , I am forgiven , I don't worry about that . I leave that worry part to others who are not sure about me .But the booze and the smoke have shorten my natural life . Three of my friends drank themselves to death , 2 more got killed while drunk in a car wreck .Another friend found out his lover , not his wife a girl he was keeping up very well was a going to get married . he could not live with that on his mind , went home kissed his wife walked out on the deck and shot himself . Over a girl . This was in 1992 and Rynn the question had nothing to do with and I qoute you " I imagine these are awfully contextualized to the situation of the time." I guess what I am asking , is this . Is drinking oneself to death and accident or is it as my friend who found out that his lover was untrue. Each died before their natural time .Are they one and the same or different .I did not plan to hurt this body but I did , I have mini strokes now . What we do to this body will we be responisible for that ? That is the simple question I guess

[Anne and Dwayne Hood]

Sins against our bodies in the past, can be forgiven but sometimes, we may still have to reap, from what was sowed. Dwayne recently officiated at the funeral of a dear man, whom had quit smoking thirty years before he had lung cancer. He was harming the temple of God. From what you were saying Mike, you are forgiven, but still suffering the consequences of harming the temple of God. But, isn't it better to reap now, than to reap in eternity?
I have much pain and suffering, but have not been out in what is thought of as deep. but, I fully believe, that i know why God allows my painful suffering, and I accept it, as sharing in the Fellowship of His suffering--for which, I don't feel worthy--but feel blessed to be able to do that with Him. It is beyond my understaning, that insignifcant "I" would be counted worthy, when I am so unworthy, to share in this with HIm. But, if we do, He has promised us that we will reign with Him.
My main theme in life, is to be His hand extended to others, but how could that ever be, if I had never experienced things that some of them have suffered?
So, yes, you have been forgiven, but you can also, be His hand extended to others, because you have "been there done that."

[Crystal Lutton]

Can we say that God will punish, and does punish all that dishonour His spiritual temples whether it be a building or our body ?

1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. "

That said, I do believe Paul was admonishing the Corinthians that the things they do to their bodies are being done to God (in similar fashion to what we do to the least of these being what we do to Jesus himself). So often when I hear the greatest command people say, "Love God and love your neighbor." I'm often quick to remind that it ends, "as yourself."

I believe Paul is talking about holy self-love. We are a holy nation--a royal priesthood according to Peter. And our actions in our lives would do best to remember and respect that. When we defile ourselves, we defile the Temple of the Holy Spirit--the dwelling place of God. Considering those who even touched the Ark dropped dead from that contact of their sinful selves to the holy and set apart I think we would do well to show ourselves a lot more respect than most of us do. Being the Temple of the Holy Spirit is not about arrogance over showing off who resides within us, but is, I believe, about remembering who we house within ourselves when we are before an audience or alone. Our choices both reveal and reflect how we feel and what we think about God, our neighbor, and ourselves.