I have a question

[BobHunt]

I was listening to Moody today, and they have a program called "Walk In The Word" and I am sure I heard him right when he said that he believes that imbred sin, the thing that sanctification cleanses us from, is only transferred to children by the father. I dont think I have heard this before, have you? Am I missing something?

[Marsha Lynn]

Did he give scripture to back this up? Since we can't study inbred sin scientifically, I would say that all we know about it we know from scripture and anything beyond that is speculation.

I suppose the speculation in this case traces back to belief that Jesus was born without inbred sin. Since he had a human mother then it must have been the absence of a human father that made the difference. Logic then tells us that inbred sin is always passed down from the father.

It's simply a logical conclusion without any substantial basis in scripture. The Bible doesn't outline the doctrine of original sin in nearly so definitive terms as preachers of the gospel like to present it. At least not that I've been able to find. Maybe someone else can enlighten us.

Marsha

I was listening to Moody today, and they have a program called "Walk In The Word" and I am sure I heard him right when he said that he believes that imbred sin, the thing that sanctification cleanses us from, is only transferred to children by the father. I dont think I have heard this before, have you? Am I missing something?

[Mark Metcalfe]

I was listening to Moody today, and they have a program called "Walk In The Word" and I am sure I heard him right when he said that he believes that imbred sin, the thing that sanctification cleanses us from, is only transferred to children by the father. I dont think I have heard this before, have you? Am I missing something?

I have heard this before. The Bible says that the sins of the father are passed
down to the third and fourth generation. I think that it is proof-texting, or
simply a interpretation. The idea is supported by the Virgin birth - Mary
had "no sin" to pass on, and the father was the Holy Spirit, therefore
Jesus had no original inbred sin.

I think it is a non-issue, personally, because it is like saying that a woman
can only become pregnant by a man. Well duh! The idea that inbred
sin is passed down through man is enough without splitting the hair
of man and woman. Women are just as full of inbred sin as men are.

How does it get passed down? From sperm to egg? Any female child
will get it from their father, and therefore be as much contaminated
by inbred sin as the male counterpart. SOmeone can check the texts
to see if "sins of the fathers" could also be rendered "sins of the parents"
but even this would not be sufficient to convince me of the relevance
of a male-only contributor to inbred sin in offspring.

Mark

[Pete Vecchi]

I was listening to Moody today, and they have a program called "Walk In The Word" and I am sure I heard him right when he said that he believes that imbred sin, the thing that sanctification cleanses us from, is only transferred to children by the father. I dont think I have heard this before, have you? Am I missing something?

Ok, here's a theory that could be used. I'm not saying I do or don't buy into it, because I simply haven't given it that much thought...

Adam and Eve were created, not born. They sinned, and then they had children. Generations and generations of people were born, all of whom had inbred sin.

Suddenly, one was born without inbred sin. His name was Jesus. His father was not of the sinful geneology of humans, but he was conceived in the Virgin Mary by the Holy Spirit.

It could be argued that Jesus was sinless because His Father was sinless.

[Billy Cox]

I think I recall this idea being advanced by Augustine.

Augustine (former sexual adventurer) would have liked Freud, who was also fixated on everything to do with sex. The difference would be that Freud thought sex was good while Augustine thought sex was evil.

[Wilson L. Deaton]

If the Moody speaker is correct that would mean that if a man is sanctified holy and cleansed of inbred sin that his offspring would be without inbred sin. The whole issue confuses spiritual truths and issues with physical ones.

(In earlier days it was thought that everything was passed on by the father. It was in response to the belief that women also contributed genetically that the Roman Catholic Doctrine of Immaculate Conception was developed. That is the belief that a divine miracle occurred at Mary's conception so that se would be born without inbred sin to pass on.)

Wilson