New Beacon Bible Commentaries

[Kevin Rector]

I just ordered Romans (http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/bhol/itempage.jsp?itemId=U-520). Has anyone seen these or bought them?

After shipping it was cheaper to get it from Amazon than from NPH, so I ordered mine from Amazon.

[Susan Unger]

I just ordered Romans (http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/bhol/itempage.jsp?itemId=U-520). Has anyone seen these or bought them?

After shipping it was cheaper to get it from Amazon than from NPH, so I ordered mine from Amazon.

I got mine at DA. Haven't really looked at it yet though. The man from NPH said that eventually all the commentaries will be out on CD. But he didn't have a guess of when that would occur as it was another company who was making the CDs.

[Ryan Scott]

I will probably get them, but I may wait until they are all out. I might have enough money by then.

[Susan Unger]

I will probably get them, but I may wait until they are all out. I might have enough money by then.

I decided to do it bit by bit...Hopefully, won't be as painful :p

[Kevin Rector]

I went ahead and got mine because there is no way that I could have afforded to buy the complete set all at one time. Plus I really didn't want to wait because I'll be preaching from Romans a bunch this summer and thought it's be good to have one more reference and our DA isn't until August.

[John Kennedy]

Took me a bit to realize that DA meant District Assembly and not District Attorney. Wondered for awhile if the lawyers were attempting to move into theology - then I realized that John Calvin did that about 500 years +/- ago.

[Susan Unger]

Took me a bit to realize that DA meant District Assembly and not District Attorney. Wondered for awhile if the lawyers were attempting to move into theology - then I realized that John Calvin did that about 500 years +/- ago.

I am like that with GA. I had a friend once who kept talking about going to GA. I wondered for the longest time what her fascination was with GEORGIA. Eventually, I came to remember she was refering to General Assembly ~ and as a Nazarene missionary, going to general assembly would hold some fascination for her.

[Hans Deventer]

Took me a bit to realize that DA meant District Assembly and not District Attorney. Wondered for awhile if the lawyers were attempting to move into theology - then I realized that John Calvin did that about 500 years +/- ago.

And he wasn't the first one either, Tertullian preceded him by 1300 years. In both cases, I'm not too happy with lawyers becoming theologians.

[Mike Schutz]

However, I'm quite happy with lawyers as practical theologians... and owners of Naznet!:bannana

(Yes! Another excuse to bring out the dancing banana!)

[Mike Schutz]

I didn't jump on it at DA because I have more commentaries of Romans (and Luke) than any other book. So, I purchased it for one of my associates, as she is developing her library. And I'll just check it out of her library and decide if it will be useful or not. It takes me three or four uses of a commentary to decide if I will really use it.

I do prefer to buy individual commentaries rather than complete sets. However, this habit was developed when I lived within walking distance of a fine theological library. Since moving I am often frustrated by what is lacking in my personal library.

[Hans Deventer]

However, I'm quite happy with lawyers as practical theologians... and owners of Naznet!:bannana

Sure. As long as they keep their hands away from theories about the atonement, no problem!

[Billy Cox]

I just ordered Romans (http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/bhol/itempage.jsp?itemId=U-520). Has anyone seen these or bought them?

After shipping it was cheaper to get it from Amazon than from NPH, so I ordered mine from Amazon.

Is the 'new' beacon bible commentary still primarily a devotional commentary? I'm not knocking devotional commentaries, just curious.

[Jon Twitchell]

Is the 'new' beacon bible commentary still primarily a devotional commentary? I'm not knocking devotional commentaries, just curious.


The NPH rep at our district assembly indicated that these were differen than the old Beacon Bible Commentaries, which were "more of a layman's commentary."

I was going to pick up a set... but got distracted by something else and never made it back to the book table.

[Chuck Wilkes]

And he wasn't the first one either, Tertullian preceded him by 1300 years. In both cases, I'm not too happy with lawyers becoming theologians.

Hans:
For those of us who are both ordained Nazarene elders and licensed attorneys (okay, I may be almost the only one), let me just say that the legal training is excellent preparation for thinking about theology. I recognize that it does lead to the temptation to sue someone who holds an opposite theological opinion...but all in all I think suing someone is preferable to, say, the Inquisition. :basic01

Chuck

[Kevin Rector]

Is the 'new' beacon bible commentary still primarily a devotional commentary? I'm not knocking devotional commentaries, just curious.

I don't know. That's one of the reasons that I started this thread. I tend to not buy commentaries sight unseen, but I thought it's be worth the risk, since this one is by Greathouse and Lyons.

[Ryan Scott]

Judging from the people they have writing them, I assume they may be pretty good.

[Billy Cox]

Judging from the people they have writing them, I assume they may be pretty good.

Didn't Greathouse write the original Beacon commentary on Romans? Is this like the long-awaited sequel?

[Hal Paul]

And he wasn't the first one either, Tertullian preceded him by 1300 years. In both cases, I'm not too happy with lawyers becoming theologians.
Well then H. Ray Dunning is in good company. In the class I took from him, he didn't miss an opportunity to bemoan the many lawyers who had moved into theology.

[Jeffrey Sykes]

According to the forward the commentary isn't a rewrite or a sequel. The authors together wrote the whole thing from scratch. Since I know one of the authors, one fun fact is that even at two volumes they had to cut stuff to make it fit. I'm also under the impression that most of the rest of the series will be one volume.

I am also under the impression that while the commentary isn't as technical as something like a Word Biblical Commentary, the intention is that the commentaries would not be directed specifically at laypersons. Not to say that a layperson couldn't use it, but my impression is that this series is not designed for that audience in particular.

--JS

[Ryan Scott]

Since I know one of the authors


Well that's about as modest as you could be there.


The Beacon commentaries came up in a discussion I had with a professor after class. He mentioned that one of the problems in the first series was that the editor was a Christian Educator and not a scholar, who subsequently did some major editing, including changing the opinion of the author on some issues. Not the best way to run a commentary series. Perhaps that's why it took them so long to get to another set.

[Kevin Rector]

I got it in the mail a couple of days ago. I have the Word Biblical Commentary on Romans and the NBBC is a good compliment to that.

A note, it is written by Greathouse and edited by Lyons. Lyons is the general editor for the entire New Testament. I suppose now I can throw away the old Beacons, it's not like I ever use them anyway.

[Charles W Christian]

I kinda' like the "Bacon Bible Commentaries," which thoroughly diagnosed all of Jesus' table fellowship, including His famous last breakfast on the beach with the disciples. There was, of course, no bacon (since they were Jewish), but the commentary wonders if there COULD have been....:basic05:eek::cool:

CWC

[Bob Evans]

I kinda' like the "Bacon Bible Commentaries," which thoroughly diagnosed all of Jesus' table fellowship, including His famous last breakfast on the beach with the disciples. There was, of course, no bacon (since they were Jewish), but the commentary wonders if there COULD have been....:basic05:eek::cool:

CWC

I always thought Adam was into ribs myself. I learned that in my bacon commentary.:basic05

[Charles W Christian]

I always thought Adam was into ribs myself. I learned that in my bacon commentary.:basic05

It also contains a section about whether or not Jesus used real wine or unfermented grape juice....quite useful for Nazarenes, I'd say....:basic05


CWC

[Marsha Lynn]

Lyons is the general editor for the entire New Testament.

Really!! That's amazing information. I didn't know he had been around that long. Does everybody use the Nazarene-edited edition of the New Testament? Is there any value in searching for an unedited version or is it too difficult to read?

:laughing

[Roy Richardson]

I got it in the mail a couple of days ago. I have the Word Biblical Commentary on Romans and the NBBC is a good compliment to that.

A note, it is written by Greathouse and edited by Lyons. Lyons is the general editor for the entire New Testament. I suppose now I can throw away the old Beacons, it's not like I ever use them anyway.

Don't throw them away. I'll buy it off of you.

[Bruce Carriker]

I suppose now I can throw away the old Beacons, it's not like I ever use them anyway.

A friend of mine kept his old BBC at home. I asked him if he did that because he used them for his personal study and he replied, "No. My my office at the church is too small to have books I don't use on my bookshelves."

:):basic03

[BobHunt]

please tell me how these differ from the original ones? or is it just a reprint?

[Jon Twitchell]

It is not a reprint.

I don't believe it is even a "revision" or "update."

My understanding is that it is a completely new commentary series, written from the ground up.

[Kevin Rector]

Jon beat me to it. It is not a revision, update, or reprint. It is a completely new series and will be completed around 2015 (give or take). There are currently three volumes available. Romans 1-8, Romans 9-16, and Jeremiah 1-28. I think they are planning on releasing 1 to 4 new volumes per year.

[BobHunt]

and Kevin, are there new people writing these? Do you know any of them?

[Ryan Scott]

A couple of the Bible professors from NTS are doing volumes. I know some professors from other Nazarene schools are as well. It should be a very good series.