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Ian Gentles
1st January 2006, 01:35 PM (13:35)
There has been much talk amoungs colleges ( Not all ministry folks) about The Queens New Years honours list. Some folks are angry that the people who really served in the bombings are forgotten, while administrators, who experianced nothing, and pop stars, are honoured. There is also anger, not mine, that so many clergy who do nothing, sought glory through event.
My answer to all is, God called me, If he honours me with saying, "Well done true and faithfull servant", I will dance and sing. :) This whole matter has raised in my mind, "Why do we seek earthly praise?" My question therefore is, "Do you, do I?"

Cindi Hammons
1st January 2006, 03:44 PM (15:44)
There has been much talk amoungs colleges ( Not all ministry folks) about The Queens New Years honours list. Some folks are angry that the people who really served in the bombings are forgotten, while administrators, who experianced nothing, and pop stars, are honoured. There is also anger, not mine, that so many clergy who do nothing, sought glory through event.
My answer to all is, God called me, If he honours me with saying, "Well done true and faithfull servant", I will dance and sing. :) This whole matter has raised in my mind, "Why do we seek earthly praise?" My question therefore is, "Do you, do I?"


Good attitude, Ian. You're on my "honours" list! :fav18

Cindi H.

Paul Whitaker
1st January 2006, 04:36 PM (16:36)
Found this:


Honours tribute to 7 July workers
Emergency teams and transport workers who helped victims of the 7 July bomb attacks in London dominate this year's Queen's New Year Honours list.

The 23 men and women were rewarded for their "immense strength of spirit and courage", Downing Street said.

Singer Tom Jones and jazz musician John Dankworth receive knighthoods, while TV host Bruce Forsyth is made a CBE.

England's victorious Ashes squad and other figures from sport, music and fashion have also been honoured.

The cricketers are made OBEs and MBEs, and the team behind the London 2012 Olympic bid receive various honours.

Other famous names on the list include fashion designer Vivienne Westwood, who is made a dame, the chefs Gordon Ramsay and Heston Blumenthal, who are both appointed OBEs, and broadcaster Peter Snow, who is made a CBE.

Actors Robbie Coltrane and Imelda Staunton become OBEs, as does the writer Jeanette Winterson.

Apple iPod designer Jonathan Ive becomes a CBE.

First aid

The response of ordinary people caught up in the 7 July attacks, in which 52 people were killed, as well as the four suicide bombers, sees them head the honours.

I'm really pleased that all the players have been honoured in this way
Michael Vaughan

There are 23 awards in all for those who took part in the rescue operation, including police and NHS bosses, a Tube station worker, a Tube driver and a paramedic.

Russell Square Tube station supervisor David Boyce, who ran into the tunnel to provide first aid to victims of the bombing, is made an MBE.

Paramedic William Kilminster, who helped those trapped in the tunnel between Russell Square and King's Cross, and Pc Deborah Russell-Fenwick, who helped victims of the Tavistock Place bus attack, also become MBEs.

Off-duty Tube driver John Boyle, who entered Aldgate Tube station to rescue victims, is also appointed an MBE.

"I couldn't believe it when I heard. I was just doing my job," he said.

"I would do the same thing tomorrow if I had to. I feel pleased to be honoured, but all the staff were heroes that day."

Other police, transport and NHS managers workers were also honoured.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's Anti-Terrorist Branch who led the investigation into the attacks, is made an OBE.

He said it was a recognition of the "dedication, professionalism and extreme hard work by many colleagues".

Julie Dent, chief executive of South West London Strategic Health Authority, was made a CBE for leading the team that co-ordinated the health service's response.

London Underground managing director Tim O'Toole, 49, was made an honorary CBE for leading the Tube management's response to the attacks.

Salvation Army

Alan Dell, 45, is also appointed an MBE for his role in running the control room at London Buses.

Also made OBEs were Major Muriel McClenahan, of the Salvation Army, for co-ordinating support from faith and voluntary sectors, and Roy Bishop, Deputy Commissioner of London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority.

Following his team's summer Ashes victory over Australia, England cricket captain Michael Vaughan is made an OBE, as are coach Duncan Fletcher and chairman of selectors David Graveney. The rest of the squad are made MBEs.


NEW YEAR HONOURS
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Vaughan said: "I'm really pleased that all the players have been honoured in this way. It's something we can all take great pride in."

Sebastian Coe, who headed the team which secured the 2012 Olympics for London and is already a peer, is made a knight commander, meaning he will now be known as Lord Coe KBE.

Of the others who helped bring the games to the UK, a further two are made knights, two CBEs, three OBEs and six MBEs.

'Quick-stepping'

After being told he was being made a CBE, Strictly Come Dancing presenter Bruce Forsyth said he was "over the moon".

Bruce Forsyth celebrates his CBE with wife Wilnelia
See Bruce's reaction

He said: "I will be Strictly Come quick-stepping with delight with my wife tonight, and if she won't dance with me then I'll dance with my Alsatian dog."

Among members of the public honoured is Brian Tipper, 65, who recently retired after 25 years in charge of Big Ben. He is made an MBE.

Four Britons who spent the past year helping victims of the South Asian tsunami also become MBEs for their continued work in the region.

Businessman Derek Douglas, who built up the Maggie's Centre cancer charity following the death of his wife, is made a CBE.

And David Hart, the former general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, said he was "amazed and thrilled" to have been knighted for his services to education.

Ian Gentles
2nd January 2006, 08:07 AM (08:07)
Yep, Salvation Army supply food wagons, but they didnt do much else. Also cops who did tremedous things are left out so pop stars can have gongs. I am not in favour of this system, where on the whole ordinary people are forgotten.

Barbara Moulton
2nd January 2006, 09:51 AM (09:51)
Yep, Salvation Army supply food wagons, but they didnt do much else.

In fairness to The Salvation Army (having spent 35 years of my life in that organization) they normally will do what they are asked to do. In some places, efforts are well co-ordinated so the Army does less then they would in other places.

According to their news release of July 8 they did a fair bit, and were ready to do more if needed.

"Provide support and counselling in the aftermath of the terrorist bombing on the transport network in London, England.....

Twenty-four hours after the bombings a Salvation Army emergency vehicle was still at Russell Square with staff and volunteers offering support, counselling and refreshments. Additional teams are on standby across London. ....

As the investigation and clear-up operation gets underway Salvation Army personnel are offering practical and emotional support to those involved. Some Salvation Army officers (ministers) have accompanied paramedics underground as they recover bodies while others have been on hand to talk to people as they take breaks.....

The Salvation Army is part of the emergency response plan in London. Teams were on hand at King's Cross and Russell Square yesterday, helping the emergency services, supporting survivors and offering assistance to stranded commuters on Oxford Street until late in the night.....

The Salvation Army's Faith House Social Services Centre, opposite London's King's Cross station, assisted the emergency services there, offering counselling and refreshments. After the first explosion centre manager Captain Estelle Blake was asked by rail company GNER to help serve tea and coffee at Faith House. She was also asked by the police to help the local Burger King restaurant provide hot food and cold drinks to emergency service workers and civilian workers within the cordoned-off emergency area.....

Later, Faith House was used as a quiet area where travellers in a state of shock could sit down and talk through their experiences and call relatives and loved ones. Those helped included some pregnant women and travellers who had abandoned their belongings on the platforms at King's Cross. The Salvation Army centre also provided support to volunteers who helped to rescue survivors.....

As people struggled to make their way home on Thursday evening The Salvation Army supplied clothing and food parcels to the public in central London. This included food donated by the café chain Prêt a Manger for distribution in King's Cross. Salvation Army ministers also bolstered hospital chaplaincy teams across London to provide support and counselling to victims and their families....."

Barbara Moulton
2nd January 2006, 09:53 AM (09:53)
Yep, Salvation Army supply food wagons, but they didnt do much else.

In fairness to The Salvation Army (having spent 35 years of my life in that organization) they normally will do what they are asked to do. In some places, efforts are well co-ordinated so the Army does less then they would in other places.

According to their news release of July 8 they did a fair bit, and were ready to do more if needed.

"Provide support and counselling in the aftermath of the terrorist bombing on the transport network in London, England.....

Twenty-four hours after the bombings a Salvation Army emergency vehicle was still at Russell Square with staff and volunteers offering support, counselling and refreshments. Additional teams are on standby across London. ....

As the investigation and clear-up operation gets underway Salvation Army personnel are offering practical and emotional support to those involved. Some Salvation Army officers (ministers) have accompanied paramedics underground as they recover bodies while others have been on hand to talk to people as they take breaks.....

The Salvation Army is part of the emergency response plan in London. Teams were on hand at King's Cross and Russell Square yesterday, helping the emergency services, supporting survivors and offering assistance to stranded commuters on Oxford Street until late in the night.....

The Salvation Army's Faith House Social Services Centre, opposite London's King's Cross station, assisted the emergency services there, offering counselling and refreshments. After the first explosion centre manager Captain Estelle Blake was asked by rail company GNER to help serve tea and coffee at Faith House. She was also asked by the police to help the local Burger King restaurant provide hot food and cold drinks to emergency service workers and civilian workers within the cordoned-off emergency area.....

Later, Faith House was used as a quiet area where travellers in a state of shock could sit down and talk through their experiences and call relatives and loved ones. Those helped included some pregnant women and travellers who had abandoned their belongings on the platforms at King's Cross. The Salvation Army centre also provided support to volunteers who helped to rescue survivors.....

As people struggled to make their way home on Thursday evening The Salvation Army supplied clothing and food parcels to the public in central London. This included food donated by the café chain Prêt a Manger for distribution in King's Cross. Salvation Army ministers also bolstered hospital chaplaincy teams across London to provide support and counselling to victims and their families....."

I will acknowledge however, that The Salvation Army is in a difficult situation in that it has to "let its right hand know what its left hand is doing" in order to continue to get the donations to do it. So they usually do put out news releases. This could look like they are "seeking glory".