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Jim Franklin
16th June 2008, 07:15 PM (19:15)
Back at the beginning of the year before McCain had gathered the necessary delegate votes for the nomination, I suggested that Sarah Palin with her record of intelligent corruption busting profile would be a smart pick for VP. I have recently found out that there is quite a movement in her favor. Yes, she is from a relative small population state, but maybe that is what is needed to shake up DC. She would attract a lot of Hillary backers and many who really believe DC needs a good house-cleaning.

Ken Pell
16th June 2008, 08:04 PM (20:04)
http://palinforvp.blogspot.com/

Ryan Scott
16th June 2008, 08:14 PM (20:14)
No real national profile. Lots of potential skeletons (even if they prove to be untrue, it doesn't matter in an election). Too conservative.

Not that she would be a bad choice, just that she's not going to be the choice this time around.

I saw an interesting article today that said one of the better potential match-up might be McCain picking (sort of) Democrat Joe Lieberman and Obama picking (mostly) Republican Chuck Hagel. I would like to see how that campaign comes out.

Ryan Scott
16th June 2008, 08:30 PM (20:30)
Just for the record, those are the same reasons I would give for why a popular Kansas Democratic Governor, Kathleen Sabelius will not be on the Obama ticket.

Glenn Harris
16th June 2008, 11:50 PM (23:50)
No real national profile.

I guess I don't feel so bad in that when I first read Jim's post I was thinking of the guy from Monty Python and that didn't you have to be born in the US to be VP. :q)

Ken Pell
17th June 2008, 06:56 AM (06:56)
No real national profile. Lots of potential skeletons (even if they prove to be untrue, it doesn't matter in an election). Too conservative.

Not that she would be a bad choice, just that she's not going to be the choice this time around.

I saw an interesting article today that said one of the better potential match-up might be McCain picking (sort of) Democrat Joe Lieberman and Obama picking (mostly) Republican Chuck Hagel. I would like to see how that campaign comes out.

That will never happen. It would alienate both bases.

Ryan Scott
17th June 2008, 10:50 AM (10:50)
That will never happen. It would alienate both bases.


I'm not so sure it would matter if they both did it. Hagel is anti-war, but with strong military credentials. After this election, I don't think feminist abortion rights groups can be considered the Democratic base anymore.

You are right though; it would be better for Obama than McCain, and I don't think one happens without the other. It was just an interesting (and hopeful) thought - that we'd have two bipartisan tickets to choose from.

Glenn Harris
17th June 2008, 02:07 PM (14:07)
I'm not so sure it would matter if they both did it. Hagel is anti-war, but with strong military credentials. After this election, I don't think feminist abortion rights groups can be considered the Democratic base anymore.

You are right though; it would be better for Obama than McCain, and I don't think one happens without the other. It was just an interesting (and hopeful) thought - that we'd have two bipartisan tickets to choose from.

There is more than one issue in this election. If you are looking at it through the eyes of a one issue election then the argument could be made for Obama and Hagel and for McCain and Lieberman but while it may be the primary issue (and even that's debatable, depending on what demographic you talk to) it's not the only issue. Will the young vote for Obama be able to counter the exodus of the trade unions and the blue collar workers for selecting Hagel. Chuck may be a darling of the anti-war set but there is no love lost between him and the trade people. Same for McCain and the conservatives. That actually would be the lesser of two evils because McCain isn't that far from losing his base anyway and Lieberman has already shown that you can totally alienate your base and win your election.

Glenn

Cindi Hammons
17th June 2008, 02:25 PM (14:25)
I guess I don't feel so bad in that when I first read Jim's post I was thinking of the guy from Monty Python and that didn't you have to be born in the US to be VP. :q)

ME TOOO!!!! That was my very first thought! :laughing

Ken Pell
17th June 2008, 04:21 PM (16:21)
There is more than one issue in this election. If you are looking at it through the eyes of a one issue election then the argument could be made for Obama and Hagel and for McCain and Lieberman but while it may be the primary issue (and even that's debatable, depending on what demographic you talk to) it's not the only issue. Will the young vote for Obama be able to counter the exodus of the trade unions and the blue collar workers for selecting Hagel. Chuck may be a darling of the anti-war set but there is no love lost between him and the trade people. Same for McCain and the conservatives. That actually would be the lesser of two evils because McCain isn't that far from losing his base anyway and Lieberman has already shown that you can totally alienate your base and win your election.

Glenn

Exactly. It will never happen.

Jim Franklin
17th June 2008, 04:44 PM (16:44)
What's a Monty Python? What zoo is it in? I thought I had heard of most of the animal species in my studies in Physical Geography and Biogeography but this is a new one on me.

Glenn Harris
17th June 2008, 10:26 PM (22:26)
What's a Monty Python? What zoo is it in? I thought I had heard of most of the animal species in my studies in Physical Geography and Biogeography but this is a new one on me.

Monty Python: A comedy group who made several movies.

The Zoo it's in: The British Isles

Jim Franklin
5th September 2008, 07:45 PM (19:45)
You may have thought I was trying to be funny when I asked, What's a Monty Python?" but I had no idea to what you were referring. I guess I am just not into some of the current forms of entertainment.

Barbara Moulton
5th September 2008, 08:11 PM (20:11)
I guess I am just not into some of the current forms of entertainment.

Not too current. The TV show was on in the seventies.

Jim Franklin
5th September 2008, 08:58 PM (20:58)
They were probably on at the same time as Lawrence Welk.

Hans Deventer
6th September 2008, 01:37 AM (01:37)
You may have thought I was trying to be funny when I asked, What's a Monty Python?" but I had no idea to what you were referring. I guess I am just not into some of the current forms of entertainment.

Actually, you might like Michael Palin a lot, Jim. Most of what he does nowadays is travelling and making programs about those travels. From a geographer's point of view, it's quite interesting.
http://www.palinstravels.co.uk/