Is FaceBook replacing NazNet?

[Dave McClung]

I have not been looking at the statistics, but based on my email traffic from FaceBook, I suspect that some of the conversation that used to take place on NazNet is now taking place on FaceBook.

I can't believe the growth of FaceBook. Each time I open my email account, I have another 4 or 5 requests for confirming "friends."

In reflecting on the FaceBook growth, I can't help but think of the statistic that Dr. Lyle Pointer has quoted in several different meetings -- "The average American knows only 50 people." I wonder if that statistic is still true. I also wonder how many emails I will get a day from FaceBook when all of my friends get signed up?

[Cindi Hammons]

For me, Facebook and NazNet serve two very different purposes. I can get on Facebook and be done in a couple of minutes. Most of my interactions there are pretty shallow...like brief individual conversations at a cocktail party. I can spend much more time here on NazNet. The conversations I have here are deeper and longer lasting, including many people, like deeper conversations in a group setting.

Honestly, I find some of Facebook rather silly. I have had people I barely know send me the craziest "things"! :) One very good side of Facebook is that I have been able to reconnect with several friends from college...which I have enjoyed very much! The other part of Facebook, I find absolutely ridiculous. I call these people "friend collectors." I have one friend (and he really is an old friend of mine) who now has over 3,000 "friends." That is totally not possible. I find it even hard to image someone knowing the names of 3,000 people! And just for the record, this is not some bored unemployed person searching for connections.

I see Facebook as a flash in the pan. There will be some other new toy for all of us to play with coming along soon. I see NazNet as longer lasting.

[Joanne Vergin]

Dr. McClung, you know quite a few people. Your email will be full for quite awhile.

Yes, Facebook is shallow compared to Naznet.

I won't ever have 3000 friends but I will have quite a few I hope because I want to use it mostly to keep in touch with former students.

Some silly things I do and some I don't. :)

[Marsha Gupton]

Facebook and naznet are two different things I believe. I have a facebook page and enjoy it. I like the games that are offered and I also like finding who all that I know has a facebook page. I have reconnected with some people. You will also notice that the majority of facebook is made up of high school and college students. That generation is knowledgeable on the latest technology and want to be in on the latest fads on the internet (facebook and myspace).

Personnally, I have enough stress in my life that it is nice to do some mindless games. Its a form of stress relief for me.

[Billy Cox]

In reflecting on the FaceBook growth, I can't help but think of the statistic that Dr. Lyle Pointer has quoted in several different meetings -- "The average American knows only 50 people." I wonder if that statistic is still true. I also wonder how many emails I will get a day from FaceBook when all of my friends get signed up?


I don't think the stat has really changed. I have over 100 'friends' on Facebook, most of whom I have had some kind of connection with over the years and in various spheres, but I don't any meaningful interaction with most of them. I can easily initiate conversation with them - they accept my friend request or requested that I be their friend, so at least I know they wouldn't mind hearing from me.

I have dabbled in some discussions on Facebook, but I have not found it as conducive to meaningful conversation as NazNet.

[Billy Cox]

Dr. McClung, you know quite a few people. Your email will be full for quite awhile.

Yes, Facebook is shallow compared to Naznet.

I won't ever have 3000 friends but I will have quite a few I hope because I want to use it mostly to keep in touch with former students.

Some silly things I do and some I don't. :)

yes, I have discovered the amazing power of the 'Ignore' button.

[Barbara Moulton]

Hasnt' replaced it for me... cuz I don't have a Facebook page :)

[Marsha Lynn]

I second what Cindi has noted about Facebook. It's not at all a replacement for NazNet.

BTW, I know you've mentioned that statistic about knowing 50 people before. It amazes me to think anyone would know so few people. There are more people than that who are regular attenders of my church and I certainly know all of those people. In fact, I know at least 1,000 people well enough to greet them by name when I see them and to place them into some sort of context. And I'm sure there are many people who have vastly more friends, relatives, and acquaintances than I do. I have lived in the same rural community for all of my adult life. It's not like there's a lot of turnover in my pool of possible acquaintances.

What is the basis for Dr. Pointer's statistic and how is "know" defined for it?

I have not been looking at the statistics, but based on my email traffic from FaceBook, I suspect that some of the conversation that used to take place on NazNet is now taking place on FaceBook.

I can't believe the growth of FaceBook. Each time I open my email account, I have another 4 or 5 requests for confirming "friends."

In reflecting on the FaceBook growth, I can't help but think of the statistic that Dr. Lyle Pointer has quoted in several different meetings -- "The average American knows only 50 people." I wonder if that statistic is still true. I also wonder how many emails I will get a day from FaceBook when all of my friends get signed up?

[Susan Unger]

Hasnt' replaced it for me... cuz I don't have a Facebook page :)

I'm with ya Barbara. I don't have one and don't plan on it either.

[Jim Monck]

I have not been looking at the statistics, but based on my email traffic from FaceBook, I suspect that some of the conversation that used to take place on NazNet is now taking place on FaceBook.

I can't believe the growth of FaceBook. Each time I open my email account, I have another 4 or 5 requests for confirming "friends."

In reflecting on the FaceBook growth, I can't help but think of the statistic that Dr. Lyle Pointer has quoted in several different meetings -- "The average American knows only 50 people." I wonder if that statistic is still true. I also wonder how many emails I will get a day from FaceBook when all of my friends get signed up?


Dave, I read where one of the Vice Presidents at Facebook says their goal is to have everyone in the world on Facebook. You have to admit they don't set low goals.

I don't think it will replace NazNet as the forums and ease of discussion on NazNet has a distinct place. Facebook does make it easy to post pictures.

[Mark Metcalfe]

FaceBook is like the CB craze of the mid-1970s - like everyone having a booth at a convention for other people who have booths to visit.

NazNet is a community center with rooms to have deep and sometimes contentious discussions, or light and playful niteractions.

Replacement? No. Competition? For time, maybe. Meaningful? Yes, for those who are into social parties and such.

Mark
(I got on to see what my kids were doing.)

[Jeremy D. Scott]

Replace Naznet? I don't think so. But I'm sure it's giving other networking sites like Classmates.com and myspace.com a very difficult time (has anyone visited that other Nazarene networking site that surfaced a bit back? I can't even think of the name right now). I definitely don't think that Facebook is a "flash in the pan."

I don't come to Naznet to network or to find out what's going on in people's lives. I go to Facebook for that. I come to Naznet to bounce ideas, to be updated in general ways on the CotN, and to have good conversation, even if I'm more often than not just a fly on the wall.

Facebook has been extremely valuable to me in learning about people and what's going on in their lives. However, I find it a distraction from healthy interaction with other human beings, especially as followers of Christ. While it's one thing to know how someone's doing, it's another to do something about it.

By the way, have you ever read up on the brief history of Facebook? It's a fascinating story if you ask me. (read it here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook)) Facebook hasn't even been open to the general public for two years yet. The growth is phenomenal. The founder (Mark Zuckerberg) just turned 24 years old.

[Jeremy D. Scott]

One other major difference:
Of the 800 people or so that I am "connected" with on Facebook, I've not met only a handful (5 or so). My "friends" on Facebook are people that I know from real life situations and became "friends" with on Facebook.

For the most part, the people I interact with on Naznet, I met on Naznet. There are certainly an obvious few (family, college friends, and a handful of NTS friends) that I know from "real life," but for the most part, my friends on Naznet came via Naznet.

I am the only Naznetter from my local church (though very rarely Charlie DiSante may post), whereas I am "friends" on Facebook with 80% or so of the people who are a part of my church community.

They're definitely two different fish for me.

[Heidi Anderson]

Do you know how hard it is to find "Billy Cox" on Facebook? Man, I've tried for months! :laughing

[Karen Mercer]

Both Naznet and Facebook help me keep in touch with people I wouldn't be able to otherwise. I got on Facebook to keep up with my kids lives. Now their friends want to be my friends, too. I consider that a plus in my life.
I don't talk theology, don't enjoy church politics so Naznet is for me a good way to keep up with what's going on in my church worldwide and in specific places I'm interested in. I do love and believe in the nazarene church and being Nazarene is part of my personal identity.
Some Naznetters are also on Facebook. I just had a fun chat with Tom Cook on Facebook Chat.

[Billy Cox]

FaceBook is like the CB craze of the mid-1970s - like everyone having a booth at a convention for other people who have booths to visit.

NazNet is a community center with rooms to have deep and sometimes contentious discussions, or light and playful niteractions.

Replacement? No. Competition? For time, maybe. Meaningful? Yes, for those who are into social parties and such.

Mark
(I got on to see what my kids were doing.)

The differences are many between Facebook and CB radios, not the least of which is that millions of people have the means to get on Facebook and already have. CB has a major limiting factor, namely that only one person could speak at a time on any given channel. It could only expand so far and still be a value to its users. Facebook has no comparable factor.

The truth is that it's really hard to tell whether something new is a fad or whether it is here to stay.

[Jim Monck]

I second what Cindi has noted about Facebook. It's not at all a replacement for NazNet.

BTW, I know you've mentioned that statistic about knowing 50 people before. It amazes me to think anyone would know so few people. There are more people than that who are regular attenders of my church and I certainly know all of those people. In fact, I know at least 1,000 people well enough to greet them by name when I see them and to place them into some sort of context. And I'm sure there are many people who have vastly more friends, relatives, and acquaintances than I do. I have lived in the same rural community for all of my adult life. It's not like there's a lot of turnover in my pool of possible acquaintances.

What is the basis for Dr. Pointer's statistic and how is "know" defined for it?

Marsha, your post brought a question or two to my mind. How do we define friend? Does knowing someone's name mean you are friends? Is it easier to have more friends in small towns than large towns even though you have less people.

My son-in-law lives in a county of 13,000 people. He had a friend die and 1000 people came to the viewing. You would have to be famous for that to happen if you live in a big city.

Is it possible the internet has led us to think we have a lot more friends than we really do? I read a book, Refrigerator Friends. He asked how many people can come get something out of your refrigerator with out asking?

I just asked you these questions because you are the smartest friend I have.:basic03

[Dave McClung]

What is the basis for Dr. Pointer's statistic and how is "know" defined for it?

I can answer half of your question. He defines "know" as both of you will recognize each other by name if you meet on the street and will not be uncomfortable having a conversation.

[Marsha Gupton]

Hasnt' replaced it for me... cuz I don't have a Facebook page :)

You should get one!! haha

from your southern friend
Marsha

[Katelynn Scott]

I know you've mentioned that statistic about knowing 50 people before. It amazes me to think anyone would know so few people. There are more people than that who are regular attenders of my church and I certainly know all of those people. In fact, I know at least 1,000 people well enough to greet them by name when I see them and to place them into some sort of context.

I've often asked myself this question of "how many people do normal people know?" (not considering myself normal). I don't think I am necessarily like some other people in the world because...
1. being a pastor's kid, we moved several times growing up to various churches. I don't think it's self-centered of me to say that almost everyone in the church knew who I was because of who my parents were. I don't know if the same was true for every kid in the children's dept. or ever other teen in the youth group. Also, my parents communicated with every person in the church at some point and it was always expected that I would be able to carry conversations with these people and treat them in the same way my parents did. Therefore, I think I was forced to make more "friends" than some other people in the church. Make sense? There are still people who remember who I am even if I don't remember them from churches my dad pastored when I was little. Are these friends? I think not. But does that dissuade them from friend requesting me on facebook? Not necessarily. :basic02
2. I've chosen a profession (teaching) which means I come into contact with a lot of people, and different people every year. At the end of this past school year, I allowed my 8th grade students to friend request me on facebook since once the summer started, they would no longer be my students (moving on to high school the following year). I personally knew each and every one of my 120 students, well. So if each one friend requested me, and this happened every time for five years, that's 600 friends! Perhaps not every profession sees this kind of "interaction volume" - will this mean I have more than 1,000 friends in my life? Perhaps.

All of this to say, I tend to think that all of us have at some point had influence and gotten to know more people than we think. This does not necessarily mean life-long friends, or even people you know well, but 1,000 might not be hard to reach in a life time at all.

[Gina Stevenson]

Personnally, I have enough stress in my life that it is nice to do some mindless games. Its a form of stress relief for me.

Yes, a rather mindless game is sometimes what is needed, for sure. However, facebook games are detestably slow on dial-up. So, if anyone else still has dial-up, you might like to try a place that seems to let me play at a reasonable rate of speed: http://us.bugcafe.net.

Then there's also a netives game that came be played offline, once in the browser ... it's like the old Tetris ... called Demolition. ;)

I second what Cindi has noted about Facebook. It's not at all a replacement for NazNet.
Definitely not!

BTW, I know you've mentioned that statistic about knowing 50 people before. It amazes me to think anyone would know so few people.
No kidding, Marsha! We'd have more than 50 people together when having family Christmas parties long ago (& that was just one side)! Once we counted cousins on both sides, and there are something like 35 on one side, and 20-something (forgot now) on the other.

What is the basis for Dr. Pointer's statistic and how is "know" defined for it?
Well, a bit later Dave says that he meant people who would know each other's names if meeting on the street, & could comfortably converse. So, definitely more than 50 for a lot of us ... esp if there are way more than that in just family.

However, Jim Monck mentioned "refrigerator friends." Hadn't heard that one in a looong time, Jim! :laughing Having heard that before in the past, tho', I tried to think of who all's refrigerators I've opened (not too many ;)) over the years ... or who's come to my place, when I had one, and felt OK with doing that. :cool:

By the way, have you ever read up on the brief history of Facebook? It's a fascinating story if you ask me. (read it here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook)) Facebook hasn't even been open to the general public for two years yet. The growth is phenomenal. The founder (Mark Zuckerberg) just turned 24 years old.

Nope, haven't read about it but, thanks to you, we soon will! ;)

[Dave McClung]

I've often asked myself this question of "how many people do normal people know?" (not considering myself normal). I don't think I am necessarily like some other people in the world because...
1. being a pastor's kid, we moved several times growing up to various churches. I don't think it's self-centered of me to say that almost everyone in the church knew who I was because of who my parents were. I don't know if the same was true for every kid in the children's dept. or ever other teen in the youth group. Also, my parents communicated with every person in the church at some point and it was always expected that I would be able to carry conversations with these people and treat them in the same way my parents did. Therefore, I think I was forced to make more "friends" than some other people in the church. Make sense? There are still people who remember who I am even if I don't remember them from churches my dad pastored when I was little. Are these friends? I think not. But does that dissuade them from friend requesting me on facebook? Not necessarily. :basic02
2. I've chosen a profession (teaching) which means I come into contact with a lot of people, and different people every year. At the end of this past school year, I allowed my 8th grade students to friend request me on facebook since once the summer started, they would no longer be my students (moving on to high school the following year). I personally knew each and every one of my 120 students, well. So if each one friend requested me, and this happened every time for five years, that's 600 friends! Perhaps not every profession sees this kind of "interaction volume" - will this mean I have more than 1,000 friends in my life? Perhaps.

All of this to say, I tend to think that all of us have at some point had influence and gotten to know more people than we think. This does not necessarily mean life-long friends, or even people you know well, but 1,000 might not be hard to reach in a life time at all.

I think you are right, and knowing your outgoing nature I suspect that you probably know 1,000 right now.

I once tried to estimate how many people I know. I think I know 5,000 people by name, but that could be a little on the high side.

I would guess that Dr. Talmadge Johnson or Dr. Jim Diehl would know 20,000 or more.

[Hans Deventer]

I'm with ya Barbara. I don't have one and don't plan on it either.

I had one. Closed it down. Got way too many requests to join in whatever tools, programs, good causes or whatever there are.

[Susan Unger]

I've often asked myself this question of "how many people do normal people know?" (not considering myself normal). I don't think I am necessarily like some other people in the world because...
1. being a pastor's kid, we moved several times growing up to various churches. I don't think it's self-centered of me to say that almost everyone in the church knew who I was because of who my parents were. I don't know if the same was true for every kid in the children's dept. or ever other teen in the youth group. Also, my parents communicated with every person in the church at some point and it was always expected that I would be able to carry conversations with these people and treat them in the same way my parents did. Therefore, I think I was forced to make more "friends" than some other people in the church. Make sense? There are still people who remember who I am even if I don't remember them from churches my dad pastored when I was little. Are these friends? I think not. But does that dissuade them from friend requesting me on facebook? Not necessarily. :basic02
2. I've chosen a profession (teaching) which means I come into contact with a lot of people, and different people every year. At the end of this past school year, I allowed my 8th grade students to friend request me on facebook since once the summer started, they would no longer be my students (moving on to high school the following year). I personally knew each and every one of my 120 students, well. So if each one friend requested me, and this happened every time for five years, that's 600 friends! Perhaps not every profession sees this kind of "interaction volume" - will this mean I have more than 1,000 friends in my life? Perhaps.

All of this to say, I tend to think that all of us have at some point had influence and gotten to know more people than we think. This does not necessarily mean life-long friends, or even people you know well, but 1,000 might not be hard to reach in a life time at all.

After 7 years of teaching, I knew 1000 former students.

[Marilyn Lawson]

I can answer half of your question. He defines "know" as both of you will recognize each other by name if you meet on the street and will not be uncomfortable having a conversation.


Naznet and Facebook are so different and yet they are interconnected for many of us.

I have developed some very deep connections with some of the people here on Naznet and have met many personally.
So I can truely say that if I saw them I would know them right away.
Some of the biggest differences I find between the two of the sites is the deepness I can talk and the information I want to share.

On Naznet I can get into discussions deeply about life, church, God/Christ, family, friends, military BUT on Facebook I can share my views of my life outside my church - military, school, work, church, out with friends, community activiites.

I do connect alot of the same discussions to both sites - I am slowly letting people in my community know my feelings about areas that they would never know about me.

On Facebook - I can share information that can be easily seem - my connections to the military, community events, what I believe in is more visable, family pics or event pics that people can see I took, events coming up are more easily shared.

I love Naznet - I would never have learned how to meet so diverse people from so many areas around the world (LITERALLY) if I had not been told about it.

I hope Naznet and Facebook are around for many years - especially for the next 14 yrs for me.
This may be one of the ways for the boys to find me.
Could you imagine my grandsons Facebooking Grandma and posting a message for me.
Mikeal is 5 yrs old now.
A few more years and he will be using the computer like a trooper and hey, you never know. So I dream one day.

So in the long run - there is a place for both sites - will they stay around - I think so. So if you are using both - have fun!!!

Marilyn

[Marsha Lynn]

Both Naznet and Facebook help me keep in touch with people I wouldn't be able to otherwise. I got on Facebook to keep up with my kids lives. Now their friends want to be my friends, too. I consider that a plus in my life.

Same here, except my primary motivation for signing up was to get a feel for what our young internet users were doing at the library. Keeping up with my daughters and their friends is an added benefit.

Aren't young adult friends a wonderful blessing? I am greatly blessed when my kids' friends consider me to also be a friend.

[Marsha Lynn]

Marsha, your post brought a question or two to my mind. How do we define friend? Does knowing someone's name mean you are friends? Is it easier to have more friends in small towns than large towns even though you have less people.

Good question, Jim. I'm still trying to get a handle on what it means to "know" someone. Dave's definition (per Lyle Pointer) includes being comfortable having a conversation with the person, but I have comfortable conversations with complete strangers on a regular basis, so I'm not sure about that part.

I think it is indeed easier to know more people in a small town because our paths cross more often. In Odon, we generally make eye contact with and greet every person we meet on the sidewalk. After all, there's a good chance, I might know the person. Or he or she might know me. Or we might get to know each other soon. I certainly don't know everyone in town, but there aren't many gatherings in which I don't know at least a few people.

Is it possible the internet has led us to think we have a lot more friends than we really do? I read a book, Refrigerator Friends. He asked how many people can come get something out of your refrigerator with out asking?

I just asked you these questions because you are the smartest friend I have.:basic03

That's because you've never seen the inside of my refrigerator! :laughing

Actually, by your refrigerator definition, I'm not sure I have ANY friends. Perhaps I should go into mourning. 1,000 or more acquaintances and no friends. :gen06 I thought I had 10 NazNet friends, but I'm not sure I want any of them discovering what is growing in the back of my poor, neglected refrigerator while I'm reading NazNet. :p

[Katelynn Scott]

Could you imagine my grandsons Facebooking Grandma and posting a message for me.

My grandpa has a facebook and he'll be 73 on July 1st! He just thinks it's so fun to follow the lives of his grandkids and the other teens and young adults he's been involved with. I think it's really neat to have him as my friend. :basic01

[Marsha Lynn]

I can answer half of your question. He defines "know" as both of you will recognize each other by name if you meet on the street and will not be uncomfortable having a conversation.


Well, like I mentioned elsewhere, I certainly don't have to know someone to be comfortable having a conversation with them.

I was thinking of this thread last evening in Wal-Mart (25 miles from home). As my husband and I walked into the store, we met a couple coming out. They were part of my church when we moved here 29 years ago. He is a Nazarene PK, a business owner in Odon, and "almost related," it seems, to half the people I know in the area. She is the actual connection (related) to many of those people. We stopped and chatted with them for a few minutes. But do I really know them?

While walking through the store, someone greeted me by name. I studied her face a moment before responding. It has probably been 10 years since I last saw her, then, as now, in the uniform of a Wal-Mart employee. Twenty years ago she babysat for us several times. I can tell you about her background. The people she calls Mom and Dad are part of my church and she was also until she moved on as a young single mother. Do I know her?

In line at the checkout, we were behind a couple from Odon and chatted with them. His family attended my church 20 years ago when he was a child. Her brother is married to the foster sister of the woman who had just greeted me in the aisle. My daughter went on a mission trip chaperoned by her father maybe six years ago. We had chatted with them earlier while leaving the theater and had a longer conversation a few weeks ago at a fundraiser at their church, but only see them maybe once or twice a year. She is now my Facebook friend. When he mentioned his brother, I came up with a name (and mental image) and asked more about the brother's current whereabouts. Do I know them?

On the way out of the store, someone else from Odon greeted us. I don't know his first name because I can't differentiate between him and his twin brother unless I see them both. He's in his late 20s. Both brothers were part of my church when they were around jr. high age but dropped out as older teens. Do I know them?

It's interesting that all of the encounters in Wal-Mart last evening traced back to church connections and yet none of them attend today. Do I still know those people? Are they my friends? (I'm not expecting to find any of them rummaging through my refrigerator any time soon.)

:rolleyes:

[Mike Schutz]

I can best answer the question by considering how Naznet and Facebook each relate to my "real" life:

Naznet is where I come to join in a conversation. This is why I spend most of my time in the theology and current events discussions. Currently I live in a community where I am not able to have many theological and political conversations, while such conversations were an important part of my daily life for over 20 years where I used to live and serve. I miss those conversations. I appreciate that most folks on Naznet are polite and civil (compared, for example, with the comments posted below almost any Youtube video or on other theology or current events discussion boards). It is a relatively "closed" group, in that most everyone is a believer in Christ and has an affinity for Christian holiness. Yet there is enough diversity of opinion to make it interesting.
With a few exceptions, most of the folks I have met on Naznet I have not known elsewhere. I can control the interaction, so it is quite possible that my Naznet "persona" is not a complete presentation of who I really am. (Recently I spent two weeks in an intensive class with another Naznetter, and I am sure he has a far different perspective of me now than he did when all he knew of me were my Naznet posts.)

Facebook serves as a way to keep in touch with the "real life" friends I have made over the years. Most all of my Facebook friends are folks who have shared in my life - mostly through our shared experience at ENC or in the CotN. I really care about them and enjoy knowing about their lives, their children, and want to stay in touch. Facebook provides an opportunity to do that.

I do not see Naznet and Facebook as competition. If it weren't for Facebook, I might lose touch with hundreds of people I care about. If it weren't for Naznet, I would drive crazy those I live and work with order to meet my need to discuss things they don't find interesting.

Thank God for both of them.

[Billy Cox]

I can answer half of your question. He defines "know" as both of you will recognize each other by name if you meet on the street and will not be uncomfortable having a conversation.


The point of identifying how many people someone could 'know' was to defuse the main objection that people in churches of 100-150 give when someone (usually a pastor) suggests that the church grow to 200 and above. In other words, if a church is larger than 75, you already don't know everybody.

The statistic is not about counting how many names you know and how many of them you could shoot the breeze with. It's really about how many people's lives you can truly be involved in.

Knowing someone in this sense is not having to ask how the family is doing, because you already know.

[Carsten Schermuly]

Naznet is not replaced by facebook.
There are too strong differences
and
it is a question, wich individual way the Lord Jesus Christ does lead us.

Both have different purposes and contents - and can exist like neigbours without interest conflicts.

In the beginning I was registered on facebook just to get backlinks for my business webpages. For the first year I have not visited facebook for communication unto the day, a NazNetter sent me a friend request on facebook.

A - the mass of dirty advertisers on facebook, "congratulations, you have won a sailing journey for two persons across the caribbian sea" - "meet new people, there are three people in Berlin, want to step in contact to you" - lies and adultery.

B - facebook is not controlled by moderators, I am free to say what ever I want. This I like much. In this point Naznet is a painful place. This has to do with mind building (pro US - inner politics, ideal were "absolutely no politics, only church related themes") and is the reason why alot of Naznetters did give up - do no more visit Naznet.

C - On Naznet I have found two best friends, on facebook I found a good friend too, but not a best friend - the confidence is not the same because this friend belongs to another church, I am not familiar with.



On Naznet I have found two best friends, it seems me, for lifetime (Great Britain & USA).
Best friends.
Very best friends.


Outside of Naznet and facebook I have communication to good friends and to best friends too, I have found via internet - where friendship does happen I do not see as important.
Still the friendships I found via Naznet are the top friendships.


--- later added

Naznet OR facebook?
Yesterday I wrote in an eMail to my very best friend from Great Britain, I have found via Naznet,

"In case, the Lord Jesus Christ is really my First Love,

all other things lost their weight."



Again,
I think, it is an individual question, wich way the Lord does lead us - what does happen on what place, Naznet or facebook or anywhere.

[Mike Schutz]

Wondering if anyone else uses certain guidelines or rules for their Facebook friendships.

For example, I make it a practice not to approach females (other than family members) and ask to be friends. This can be tricky as sometimes I may confuse a request for friendship with a friendship suggestion by a third party, which, if I said yes, would then look like a friendship request from me. I practice this since most of the people I know on Facebook are former students of mine, and I don't want to be misunderstood.

Also, I understand that folks have good reason to ignore or deny friendship requests. For example, my 23 year-old nephew ignored my friendship request. Later he told me, "Uncle Mike, I don't want to have to worry about 'What would Uncle Mike think of what my friend wrote on my wall.'" This is the same reason why my daughter has restricted my ability to see her wall.

[Dave McClung]

Wondering if anyone else uses certain guidelines or rules for their Facebook friendships.

For example, I make it a practice not to approach females (other than family members) and ask to be friends. This can be tricky as sometimes I may confuse a request for friendship with a friendship suggestion by a third party, which, if I said yes, would then look like a friendship request from me. I practice this since most of the people I know on Facebook are former students of mine, and I don't want to be misunderstood.

Also, I understand that folks have good reason to ignore or deny friendship requests. For example, my 23 year-old nephew ignored my friendship request. Later he told me, "Uncle Mike, I don't want to have to worry about 'What would Uncle Mike think of what my friend wrote on my wall.'" This is the same reason why my daughter has restricted my ability to see her wall.

You put more thought into it that I do. I do have a rule -- I do have to know who they are before I either ask or accept a friendship request.

[Marsha Lynn]

The point of identifying how many people someone could 'know' was to defuse the main objection that people in churches of 100-150 give when someone (usually a pastor) suggests that the church grow to 200 and above. In other words, if a church is larger than 75, you already don't know everybody.

The statistic is not about counting how many names you know and how many of them you could shoot the breeze with. It's really about how many people's lives you can truly be involved in.

Knowing someone in this sense is not having to ask how the family is doing, because you already know.

Thanks, Billy. That sets the statistic into a context. In other words, "knowing" someone means you interact with them frequently enough to keep up with their lives. By that definition, the 50 number sounds about right. There are probably around that number that I talk to at least once a week on average. Most of those are part of my church family.

Marsha

[Jacki Lamphire]

I am new to Naznet. I have to tell you that it is not a new person friendly page.
I wish there were more simple instructions on how to find things and also to upload things and be a bit more user friendly. To some new people it seems rather confusing and jambled. I would come here more often and do more stuff if I knew how to "get around". I can't even figure out how to just post something without using the "reply" to someomes comment. I love it here and I like the people. Never been to "facebook" what ever it is. Maybe it would be good if there were some beginners instructions?
Or classes. Something to help us learn. Thanks Jacki

[Carsten Schermuly]

I am new to Naznet. I have to tell you that it is not a new person friendly page.
Dear Jacki,

you are hearty welcome!

It is not my place (I am just a guest, not responsible), just this hint, (my mother teached me, never ever to contradict to a Lady), NazNet is user friendly.

Go to main page and read the headlines and you do find everything you want to get.
What the forum means, vBulletin is one of the best forums - and structured like a forum should be. The editors are "standard" (simple) and "upper standard" (full multimedia related) - nothing is missed.
Once you are familiar with, you will like it.

There is a short cut menu script inside the main pages, just click by right mouse key on a free place (not on text, graphic or link) and JavaScript will present it.

--- correcture
not a click by right mouse key - correct is: double click by left mouse key - sorry for desinformation!
--- / correcture

I wish there were more simple instructions on how to find things and also to upload things and be a bit more user friendly.There is a subforum to talk about (help is already given) - and you can ask to any time.

Forum: Questions on using this forum's software
http://www.naznet.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=25

[Carsten Schermuly]

For example, Search - How to find "upload a picture" (or "how to add a picture to a message").

Search result for search term "upload"
http://www.naznet.com/community/search.php?searchid=704091

read headlines, click headline "How do I insert pictures in a message?"
http://www.naznet.com/community/showthread.php?t=5868&highlight=upload
(just as an example - there are more contents to find for this theme "add a picture or a movie or a sound etc" via upload or as link)

Once you do know how to use a forum (any forum), you do not have difficulties to read or write on Naznet.
Naznet is all - also a computer school - no matter what question ever, Naznet is user friendly! I bet my hat, Mylady! You will like Naznet.

[Carsten Schermuly]

I can't even figure out how to just post something without using the "reply" to someomes comment.Sorry, too late realized - there is an unanswered question.

Roll up to top of page, click in the menu box on the title link of this subforum
Forum: NazNet Community Discussion
http://www.naznet.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=9

Click the blue button "New Thread" at left to open the editor for a new theme.
Please note the order of subforums,
not to place your desire on a place, nobody does look for, e. g. a prayer theme in the prayers forum.

To get an overview over the subforums, scroll to top of a page to get the menu box and click "General Discussion Forums".

[Gina Stevenson]

NEVERMIND! Found them right at the top of the page (top RH side). Not sure how I missed them a couple of times before, other than maybe beginning my looking a ways down the page?? ;)

*****************

... you see, tho' it's been a few days since I've been there, I've gotten a few emails that were the same as the one(s) that sent me there that particular day. They mentioned that a couple of people had recommended that I make so-and-so (whomever that might be that I don't know of yet) a "friend." But, looking on my "home" page, and the "friends" link, too, I've not found any "friend suggestions" thereon.

Not sure which space/box/wherever to look for them, but I've not found them ... was going to just ignore it, until I got a few more emails of the same sort, I guess b/c I didn't add them the first time they were suggested.

How about feeling rather ignorant, when I usually get along OK w/computers? :rolleyes: :o :eek:

Oh, well ... might as well laugh about it, too, while I'm at it. :laughing

[Kevin Rector]

Naznet and Facebook serve two fundamentally different purposes for me. Facebook is essentially a "rolodex" of people I know or have known in the past, it has been a good way for me to reconnect to some people that I hadn't seen in a loooong time.

Naznet is myself and my current friends sitting around and having conversation - it is far more meaningful for me.

[Roy Richardson]

Naznet and Facebook serve two fundamentally different purposes for me. Facebook is essentially a "rolodex" of people I know or have known in the past, it has been a good way for me to reconnect to some people that I hadn't seen in a loooong time.

Naznet is myself and my current friends sitting around and having conversation - it is far more meaningful for me.

Agreed. Facebook is where you get into online pillow fights and list your current music favs. Naznet is where you can get answers to questions and have your views challenged by people who love you.

:cool:

[Jeremy D. Scott]

Naznet and Facebook serve two fundamentally different purposes for me. Facebook is essentially a "rolodex" of people I know or have known in the past, it has been a good way for me to reconnect to some people that I hadn't seen in a loooong time.

What's a rolodex?

:basic05

[William Hunter]

I wonder if the average American, or anyone from some other country, really "knows" 50 other people. I think that close personal friendship,the kind where we know each other's strengths and faults and still do not walk away, may be closer to maybe a dozen, if that. After more than 34 yrs as a pastor I find that close relationships are painful as too many people use insights gained to wound you later by their use of the insight. I have one really close friend that I trust beyond anything I can describe, my wife.




I have not been looking at the statistics, but based on my email traffic from FaceBook, I suspect that some of the conversation that used to take place on NazNet is now taking place on FaceBook.

I can't believe the growth of FaceBook. Each time I open my email account, I have another 4 or 5 requests for confirming "friends."

In reflecting on the FaceBook growth, I can't help but think of the statistic that Dr. Lyle Pointer has quoted in several different meetings -- "The average American knows only 50 people." I wonder if that statistic is still true. I also wonder how many emails I will get a day from FaceBook when all of my friends get signed up?

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

In hopes of connecting with fellow members of my graduating class in New Washington High School I decided to sign up for Facebook. Once I signed up I could do a better search, but alas, none of the other 60 members of that class have signed up. Anyway, the result is that I now have a Facebook account. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=650833716

[Grandma Carolyn]

I had one. Closed it down. Got way too many requests to join in whatever tools, programs, good causes or whatever there are.

Hans I have never really started one. I think that I may have signed up at one time, but that is as far as it went. I, too, am so busy that I don't have time to have a Facebook. I have thought that I would like to find some of my high school friends that way, but, have never got around to it.

NazNet is my place for social interaction on the internet. And, you know that I haven't been socializing much in the past couple of years. It is actually due to my husband retiring and me trying to meet his needs. We have also traveled a lot since he has retired. But, Naznet is my place on the net to make cyber friends.


gc

[Barb Bouldrey]

Since I am still on a dial up server, Facebook and MySpace take way too much time, going from page to page checking everyone's comments and walls. I am much more comfortable with NazNet and email.

I probably won't go searching everyone's Facebook page, but when I get an email notification of someone writing on my wall or leaving me a message I will go look for it and respond.

A slow computer does not make Facebook fun.

Barb

[Grandma Carolyn]

I just opened up my Facebook account and added Dave McClung as a friend. If he doesn't accept me I will sure be disappointed.

If any Naznet friends see this post and you have a Facebook please let me be your friend! :)
gc

[Marsha Gupton]

GC, add me on facebook. Search my name, marsha gupton. There are too many Carolyn Franklin's. haha

[Grandma Carolyn]

GC, add me on facebook. Search my name, marsha gupton. There are too many Carolyn Franklin's. haha

Thanks, Marsha!! This is fun!! Does Linda Mc have a Facebook?

I'm supposed to be making Doug a coconut cream pie for his birthaday!!

I got sidetracked here on Facebook. I can't believe the fun I've been missing!! :)
gc

[Grandma Carolyn]

GC, add me on facebook. Search my name, marsha gupton. There are too many Carolyn Franklin's. haha

Marsha how do I write on your wall? I'll try later, gotta go make Doug's pie and dinner.
gc

[Dave McClung]

Does Linda Mc have a Facebook?

:)
gc

Linda says she is "too busy" but I catch her looking at my Facebook from time to time.

[Grandma Carolyn]

Linda says she is "too busy" but I catch her looking at my Facebook from time to time.


Hey Linda, I know what you mean about being busy. Me, too. I'm supposed to be making Doug a coconut cream pie for his birthday today. I already have the crust made and I got sidetracked here on the internet.

I haven't tried Facebook until Dave's post. Thought I better check it out. I don't know how much I will be able to contribute to it.

Love you bunches.

Now, my friend, Dave, please pass this message to my friend, Linda! :)

There is more than one way to get a message to my friends! :)

gc

[Paula Karr]

I don't do much on Facebook -- primarily use it to play Scrabble with Joanne. I rarely look at my own wall, and never check out other folks.

If any of you have asked to be my friend and I haven't responded, that's why. Most of my internet friends are on NazNet, and this is where I hang out.

Paula

[Grandma Carolyn]

I don't do much on Facebook -- primarily use it to play Scrabble with Joanne. I rarely look at my own wall, and never check out other folks.

If any of you have asked to be my friend and I haven't responded, that's why. Most of my internet friends are on NazNet, and this is where I hang out.

Paula

Oh my, I found all my NazNet friends over on Facebook!! Honestly, I think that most of my interaction will be here on NazNet. But, Facebook can be a fun addition to the friends of NazNet and our online activity in a Christian, wholesome environment.

I like the discussions we have here much better. I found a learning curve at Face book. and, I think there can be no comparison to our interactions here.

gc

[Joanne Vergin]

If you want discussion, Naznet is the place.

[Joanne Vergin]

And Paula will play Scrabble with anyone, not just me.

[Grandma Carolyn]

And Paula will play Scrabble with anyone, not just me.

I looooovvveeeee NazNet!! Naznet has been a vehicle for me to make lots of friends beyond my own little circle here where I live and where I've been in my life.

I was dragging around here this morning feeling kinda blue and not motivated or energized. Then when I turned on my computer and found lots of friends on the Facebook who confirmed we were friends and then to think about NazNet where I can come and share my heart.....Wow, I think how much God really loves me and how much he has really blessed me and I'm ready to do house work!!!

Can anyone psychoanalize me?

Yea, for my wonderful friends on NazNet. You ARE important to me and such a blessing to be able to call you friends! Thank you Dave and Linda for NazNet and how it has brought us together. You have made a great contribution to our lives with your lives and who you are and what you do.
gc

[Mike Schutz]

I looooovvveeeee NazNet!! Naznet has been a vehicle for me to make lots of friends beyond my own little circle here where I live and where I've been in my life.

I was dragging around here this morning feeling kinda blue and not motivated or energized. Then when I turned on my computer and found lots of friends on the Facebook who confirmed we were friends and then to think about NazNet where I can come and share my heart.....Wow, I think how much God really loves me and how much he has really blessed me and I'm ready to do house work!!!

Can anyone psychoanalize me?

Yea, for my wonderful friends on NazNet. You ARE important to me and such a blessing to be able to call you friends! Thank you Dave and Linda for NazNet and how it has brought us together. You have made a great contribution to our lives with your lives and who you are and what you do.
gc

Based on my experience in both Freudian and Jungian psychoanalysis - I hereby diagnose you as "human!"

[Grandma Carolyn]

Based on my experience in both Freudian and Jungian psychoanalysis - I hereby diagnose you as "human!"

kool! I take it!! )

gc

[Larry Wilson]

As others have observed, NAZNET and Facebook are two very different contexts. One of those differences is that NazNet is centered around one common relationship. Facebook helps me to keep in touch with people in many different cirlces. I'm sure there is a lot that I haven't explored in terms of Facebook Groups, Causes, Fans, Applications, etc. but it has been fun to make and maintain connections that just wouldn't happen otherwise.

As we prepare for an overseas assignment, it will be an even more important tool to keep in touch with family and friends - posting photos, maybe videos, etc. It can be a very casual environment or more involved, a broad net (3,000 "freinds?") or very closed with a few people one wants to share with. I think my mom will have only a few close family members as friends, while my nephews may hava a lot more.

It also takes me a lot less time to check my facebook page than it does to fire up NazNet and navigate the boards.

[Jeff Scott]

Replace Naznet? I don't think so. But I'm sure it's giving other networking sites like Classmates.com and myspace.com a very difficult time (has anyone visited that other Nazarene networking site that surfaced a bit back? I can't even think of the name right now).

You mean this site? http://www.nazboard.com/

Talk about a flash in the pan. I guess it wasn't the "Ultimate" site for Nazarenes. Kind of funny...I hadn't even heard of the site until I stumbled upon a link to it on MySpace...this morning...about 4 hours before reading this post. Weird.

While I don't think Naznet is going to be replaced by FB, I wouldn't call it a flash in the pan. I think people of my generation and younger will continue to utilize it into the future. I also wouldn't say that Naznet is "deeper" than FB. It's just different. It has the potential for deep conversations in the "notes" application, but it's much different than Naznet. Gacebook is set up for social interaction with the ability for topic discussions, and the Naznet is more about threaded discussions, with some(?) potential for social interaction.

I have found some friends I haven't seen since I was 14 on Facebook.

[Jeremy D. Scott]

...and the Naznet is more about threaded discussions, with some(?) potential for social interaction.

All I know is that from now on, I hereby declare that I shall forever and evermore refer to Naznet as "the Naznet."

[Jon Twitchell]

...Gacebook is set up for social interaction with the ability for topic discussions, ...

I know... Jeremy picked on you for saying "the NazNet," and I'm highlighting that you said "Gacebook."

But I have an interesting reason to highlight it...

From time to time, I will pick up domain names that I think I might do something with... and immediately thought of "gracebook.com" (which would be a wicked cool domain name!)

However, the domain is already bought... but simply "parked." The subtitle of the domain (at least for me) is: "For ads on Church of the Nazarene and Amazing Grace."

Can someone else visit "gracebook.com" and let me know if they see the same subtitle?

[Joanne Vergin]

That's what I see.

[Judy Hamilton]

In truth I have not time to do justice to e-mails, Naznet, a VietNam Nurse site and another Vetsite The NY Times Opinion Page, Ok News, Fox News and Facebook
so Facebook does not garner much of my time, effort and attention.
As I am new in the VA Heath Care system..I read most of the posts of other veterans on health issues. I also do not have a TV in my apartment (I am on a travel contract) so I keep up with Okla news and world news on the Internet ie the Opinion page of NY Times issue and Fox news

Judy

[Grandma Carolyn]

I wondered why you didn't admit to being my friend! :) Will you be going to SNU Homecoming this year? I wonder where the party will be?
gc

[Edwin Deventer]

I got on Facebook to connect with other Nazarenes.. and I got on Naznet to connect with other Nazarenes.. so it's not that different to me, really! :laughing

But seriously, I guess I agree with what most people have said so far. Facebook is a nice way to keep in touch with people, and Naznet seems like a good place for some more serious conversation, and hopefully also for 'meeting' some new people.
So yes, I think the two can co-exist peacefully.

[Susan Unger]

I know... Jeremy picked on you for saying "the NazNet," and I'm highlighting that you said "Gacebook."

But I have an interesting reason to highlight it...

From time to time, I will pick up domain names that I think I might do something with... and immediately thought of "gracebook.com" (which would be a wicked cool domain name!)

However, the domain is already bought... but simply "parked." The subtitle of the domain (at least for me) is: "For ads on Church of the Nazarene and Amazing Grace."

Can someone else visit "gracebook.com" and let me know if they see the same subtitle?

I saw what you see. And then when I clicked on the church of the nazarene section of gracebook, it didn't take me to nazarene.org as I thought it would. Instead it showed a website for ads. Weird.

[Jon Twitchell]

I saw what you see. And then when I clicked on the church of the nazarene section of gracebook, it didn't take me to nazarene.org as I thought it would. Instead it showed a website for ads. Weird.

That's what "parked" pages do. They earn advertising revenue for their owner until the owner decides to sell or develop the domain.

If "gracebook.com" had been available, I would have registered it... not because I had something special in mind, but just in case I came up with something...

[Susan Unger]

You mean this site? http://www.nazboard.com/

Talk about a flash in the pan. I guess it wasn't the "Ultimate" site for Nazarenes. Kind of funny...I hadn't even heard of the site until I stumbled upon a link to it on MySpace...this morning...about 4 hours before reading this post. Weird.

Thanks for the info...now I have a new place to explore..

[Jeff Scott]

All I know is that from now on, I hereby declare that I shall forever and evermore refer to Naznet as "the Naznet."

That's funny! This happened because I first referred to Facebook and Naznet as "the first website" and "the other". I replaced it with their names but evidently neglected to delete "the". If it wasn't so funny, I'd change it!

Jeff:laughing

[Mike Schutz]

Golly, I wish I had my brother on Naznet to go behind me and correct all my mistakes. I have to wait for family gatherings for that to happen.:rolleyes:

[Mark Metcalfe]

Golly, I wish I had my brother on Naznet to go behind me and correct all my mistakes. I have to wait for family gatherings for that to happen.:rolleyes:

Will Christian brothers, do?

Straighten that tie! ... and that theology... :basic02

[Susan Unger]

Golly, I wish I had my brother on Naznet to go behind me and correct all my mistakes. I have to wait for family gatherings for that to happen.:rolleyes:

Speaking of correcting your mistakes, I notice that your signature has the word "ttends". Do you mean "attends"?

[Dave McClung]

I got on Facebook to connect with other Nazarenes.. and I got on Naznet to connect with other Nazarenes.. so it's not that different to me, really! :laughing

But seriously, I guess I agree with what most people have said so far. Facebook is a nice way to keep in touch with people, and Naznet seems like a good place for some more serious conversation, and hopefully also for 'meeting' some new people.
So yes, I think the two can co-exist peacefully.

Welcome, Edwin. I have never met you, but feel like I know you.

I look forward to your participation on NazNet.

[Judy Hamilton]

I wondered why you didn't admit to being my friend! :) Will you be going to SNU Homecoming this year? I wonder where the party will be?
gc

Hi Carolyn...I will not be at homecoming..and suspect that Pat will still open her home to large gatherings..
She was interested in keeping up the OU Sooner Tailgate parties hosted most every week-end, when I visited with her by phone a couple of weeks ago

I will be at Homecoming 2010..hold me to it!!:basic02

Judy

[Hans Deventer]

Welcome, Edwin. I have never met you, but feel like I know you.

You'll have a good chance of meeting him in Orlando, Dave. He'll be coming with me.

[Grandma Carolyn]

I, too, look forward to meeting you both there. Will Hannie get to come or will her health keep her from it. Here's hoping she gets well enough to come with you.
gc

[Grandma Carolyn]

Hans it is a joy to say I think I have known you long enough via NazNet to watch you get grey hair! Yea for the golden years!
gc

[Hans Deventer]

I, too, look forward to meeting you both there. Will Hannie get to come or will her health keep her from it. Here's hoping she gets well enough to come with you.
gc

Carolyn, the truth is that we need a miracle of healing for her to be able to make it.

[Grandma Carolyn]

Carolyn, the truth is that we need a miracle of healing for her to be able to make it.

Hans, I remember as being so sweet and friendly to me at the last General Assembly in Indiana.

I commit to praying for her to just feel better. We appreciate you Hans. You are such a wonderful friend and moderator for NazNet.
gc

[Barbara Moulton]

When this thread first came up I wasn't on Facebook and didn't know much about it. Since then I have become an active Facebooker. I'm loving it. I'm connecting with family members and old friends on a regular basis.

And it has replaced NazNet for me in this way....as the first place I check in the morning. I like to connect with family and friends, and post thoughts, photos and comments. I like going to "status updates" and seeing what everyone is up to. Some update more often than others and some are very creative. For connectivity among a smaller group it is excellent.

But having said all that, NazNet still serves a purpose for me in my larger internet life. :)

I am glad I have both now.

[Joel Merrill]

I was on facebook for a few months. There are a lot more people on facebook. I could talk to many people from my church and a lot of family members as well as people from here. It was much more light hearted and you weren't likely to get in an argument with anyone. The photo albums were great. Some of the applications were fun but there were too many and some of them didn't work. I always wondered how safe it was to be giving permission for these applications. I worried about spyware being attached to them. I ran scans regularly but never found anything serious. There is some phishing going on and I think I fell for it once. They can be very deceiving.

People still scoff at me and question whether I know what I am talking about but one day I got a piece of flare that said it was from someone here on Naznet. I'm sure it wasn't. The picture on the piece of flair didn't make any sense. I looked at it for a moment trying to figure it out and all of the sudden my antivirus software stopped the program and gave me a warning that it had caught a trojan. It turning out that it caught two trojans. My computer instantly started running real slow. I updated my antivirus and ran another scan. It didn't find anything but my computer was definitely not running right. I downloaded tools and ran scans with other software and finally found another trojan but I'm not sure I have gotten rid of it. Next week I am going to take my computer in and have a professional computer shop work on it.

So I am kind of soured on facebook. I suppose it is safe without all the extra fun stuff but then I get tired of ignoring everybody. It was also a big time waster. I try not to go to risky places with my computer and I try not to make the same mistake twice. Maybe someday facebook will add some security software like most email providers have. For me, facebook isn't worth the risk and all the trouble it has caused.

Joel

[Mike Wooldridge]

I have both a FaceBook and MySpace page but would never go to those sites instead of NazNet. NazNet is "home" on the Web. I could have never gotten the love and support I've gotten here on FaceBook or MySpace.

[Ken Pell]

I check in at Facebook before I check out naznet. I have personal relationships with more people on Facebook.

[Barbara Moulton]

I have both a FaceBook and MySpace page but would never go to those sites instead of NazNet. NazNet is "home" on the Web. I could have never gotten the love and support I've gotten here on FaceBook or MySpace.

I appreciate that. For me, Facebook is a little more private and intimate. Only 40 people, mostly family members or friends from years ago. There are things I will not share on NazNet, simply because it is completely open to the world.

[Grandma Carolyn]

No, Facebook will never replace NazNet for me. I see it kinda as an extension of NazNet.

I already have close to 200 friends. I didn't know I had so many friends. With NazNetters on Facebook as friends, at least 15 family members, many BNC/SNU friends that I had lost contact with, many Professional Genealogist as I am researching my Family History, haven't found any of my high school friends on FB yet, so the list for me is exciting.

It is hard to have intimate contact with everyone everyday, or often, but it is a blessing for the opportunity to make connections with many that I wouldn't have opportunity to have contact with otherwise.

There are even NazNetters there that don't post much on NazNet so it is possible to get to interact and to meet them.

I thought that Facebook was just for my college grand daughters and other college young people. So, thanks Dave for letting me know about Facebook here on NazNet.

I did not have a Facebook account before you said you were on it. I followed your example and found it to be a great extension of NazNet.

I have NazNet as one of my webpage links on my profile page.

Thanks everyone for being one of my friends!! :)

gc

[Grandma Carolyn]

I want to publicly thank Joanne for creating the NazNetters on Facebook Group. Who knows, she may have created an advertisement or announcement or way for people who didn't know about NazNet to learn about NazNet. There are a lot people who have joined that group that I don't recognize from NazNet. Maybe it is some or our "lurkers", or maybe it is people who are just learning about NazNet.

Anyway, I told Joanne that she "done good" by creating that group! :)

Thanks, again, Joanne. You are a doll!

gc



of Facebook

[Bruce Carriker]

I have both a FaceBook and MySpace page but would never go to those sites instead of NazNet. NazNet is "home" on the Web. I could have never gotten the love and support I've gotten here on FaceBook or MySpace.

Or the "loving correction" for all my political views. :laughing:laughing:laughing

Seriously, I have Facebook to keep in touch with my daughters, but I use Naznet much more.

[Anderson Mar]

I am on both. I am also on myspace. But I joined Facebook at the urging of my students. Some of their parents do not want them on myspace because of the possible exposure to controversial material on myspace. Facebook seems to be more lighthearted and family-value friendly, especially for younger kids.

[Charlotte Mercer]

I prefer facebook over myspace, because facebook has fewer crude advertisements - fewer advertisements in general - and seems to be a little bit safer. But in my mind, facebook and NazNet are totally different things. Facebook for me is a simple way to glance around and see what's going on in the lives of people I wouldn't be keeping in touch with otherwise, and it's a simple way to tell everyone at once when something happens in my own life. NazNet for me, though, is more intimate - fewer people check it, and mainly the people on here are people I look up to as spiritual mentors, so I get on here to keep in touch with the world of the church and hopefully gain some understanding, or at least conversation, about spiritual matters.