View Full Version : Meaning: He is the God of history
BobHunt
19th July 2008, 09:44 PM (21:44)
Look at all the wars that have occured, look at all the diseases, plagues, famines, earthquakes. Look at what happened to the Jewish people. Look at the Presidents who have been shot, Columbine shoot-out, and all the other tragedies.....what does it mean when people say He is the God of history? Does He control events? How can He be God and have no control?
Jamie Wayne
19th July 2008, 10:24 PM (22:24)
What does it mean when people say He is the God of history? Does He control events?
I think that people mean, when they say that He is the God of history, that we can't differentiate between "history," generally speaking, and "salvation history," that there is no difference, for all of history has been salvation history. At least that is the context that I've usually seen God referred to as the "God of history."
Robert de Vries
20th July 2008, 08:50 AM (08:50)
Does He control events? How can He be God and have no control?
I agree on what Jamie Wayne said. I also think that there are moments in history in which God has acted - will act - and has, so to speak "control". These are the moments in which God is a clear actor in the events. The question of God beeing in control grazes the discussion on Open Theism I think.
Hans Deventer
20th July 2008, 08:55 AM (08:55)
How can He be God and have no control?
Where in the Bible does it says that He is "in control"? I guess this brings us back to one of the questions around Open Theism: where do we get our ideas about the concept of "god" from?
Randy Wise
20th July 2008, 09:59 AM (09:59)
Look at all the wars that have occured, look at all the diseases, plagues, famines, earthquakes. Look at what happened to the Jewish people. Look at the Presidents who have been shot, Columbine shoot-out, and all the other tragedies.....what does it mean when people say He is the God of history? Does He control events? How can He be God and have no control?
I would read the parable of the weeds and the wheat. Jesus sows the good seed and Jesus did speak of a time when the weeds would be pulled up. In the meantime we do have a justice system in place for law enforcement and a hope of a better future as members of the body of Christ.
Randy
BobHunt
20th July 2008, 11:25 AM (11:25)
I got that quote from a Calvinist writer, if that makes any difference.
Greg Farra
20th July 2008, 01:51 PM (13:51)
The problem is not God, it's us. We have abused our freewill by not loving God and others.I look at how we are, and thank God he hasn't dealt with us as we deserve. Thanks be to Christ!
Ryan Scott
20th July 2008, 03:05 PM (15:05)
I heard a good sermon from the gospel lectionary passage today which applies well here. It was from the parable of the weeds among the wheat. The clear message is that those elements of our history evidence of death and decay are not from God - our hope in Christ is that they are fading away.
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