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Carsten Schermuly
6th January 2006, 10:56 PM (22:56)
"It is forbidden to do so"
or
"You do not need to do that,
because First Commandment - I am the Lord, I am covering all your needings"?
Last week I read some articles on a german forum about healthy food. There have been some religious phantasts, teaching laws. One of them talked about Commendment No. Six in a way I have never heard before, using new constructed words, not known in the german language, built by elder, no more usual words.
No idea, something were forbidden, not only one word.
Only, "Do well, do right" - in a pretty conservative way.
I think, it were the second case, "You do not need ..."
completed by the love of the Lord.
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I know, I need forgiveness every day, so please do not think, it were "my problem" (Carsten needs counseling), I am just interested in this question, once I failed a better view unto today.
Carsten Schermuly
6th January 2006, 10:59 PM (22:59)
sorry, I forgot it
http://www.dayspring.com/movies/view.asp?moviename=believe.swf
Belinda Y. Edwards
10th January 2006, 07:29 AM (07:29)
Carsten - i am just now reading your post. This is a good thing about this software - i would have missed it with the previous.
The last three weeks have been times where the Ten Commandments are *in my face* more than they have in a long time.
Concepts
Precepts
Principles
Kingdom Living
We just automatically *think* we are living the Ten Commandments - but are we?
Carsten Schermuly
10th January 2006, 08:07 AM (08:07)
Carsten - i am just now reading your post. This is a good thing about this software - i would have missed it with the previous.
Dear Belinda,
(excuse me - dear Yvonne)
because moving downwards? Yes, I think often the same, reading elder messages.
The last three weeks have been times where the Ten Commandments are *in my face* more than they have in a long time.
I permanently think about. Not under mind pressure (also by a beating mind, but not regularily under a beating mind) - there are several reasons. The Lords love I never do understand, the Lords laws I can easier understand because the world will use similar categories of righteousness. Now I wondered about a never heard german term (I guess, it bases on a concordant translation from Hebrew - but I am not sure, it is also thinkable, it comes from the Pietists theology), giving the sixth commandment another nuance. Seen on all commendments it could make life easier because a smaller circle of possibilities "I can do / I can not do" (no matter what motive - the Love of the Lord, fears to step over a line, anciesties to loose eternal life etc).
The most public sources I found in the past I am gone through and I like the way, William Barclay will talk about (Commentairy The New Testament in seventeen books - a small commentairy, translated to german).
Concepts
Precepts
Principles
Kingdom Living
We just automatically *think* we are living the Ten Commandments - but are we?
This is my question in general. The master of death, the heroe of life Jesus Christ took not away the law, he fulfilled it to lift up the consequences of sin from us. To know "I found forgiveness" does not allow to take the law not serious. To know, "I am saved by his holy blood" ... To know, "I am walking day by day under grace" ... To feel a psychic and physically wellness, named as "the Lords peace in heart" does not allow to take it easy. At least we can not sin (mindst the will is present, contradicting to the weakness, weakness is contradicting to will) because knowing "I am beloved". It needs to answer such questions to come nearer to the Lords face.
Carsten Schermuly
10th January 2006, 08:34 AM (08:34)
the source
http://www2.netdoktor.de/diskussion/message.asp?message_id=260315&forum_id=32
Von = From (written by) not known
Undersigner Rado
I can not ask Rado, I would like to do. Without knowledge in german it does not make sense because "missbegatten" is a construction. Miss (correct miß) means the same like mis in mistake or in misunderstanding, "begatten" I can not translate.
Mein Gatte = my husband,
meine Gattin = my wife
are no more usual.
It could mean the pendant, counterpart to absolutely strictly tenderness (wellminded, positive understood) in common to the right way of sexual life. It is not the same like the negative "no adultery" - for example, "no adultery" allows pregnancy control, this (never before heard version) does not allow after my understanding.
It is already a few weeks old - I have read in between some personally minded commentairies - but I am still unsure. In case it will be correct like described, tons of marriage books are trash - also christian marriage books.
Carsten Schermuly
10th January 2006, 09:59 AM (09:59)
I do not like to leave a wrong impression. My interest is not directed to the sixth commandment - it is directed to all commandments. The sixth commandmend was just the initial point.
Carsten Schermuly
11th January 2006, 06:22 PM (18:22)
Original Sin
by Fergus Duniho
http://www.duniho.com/fergus/academic/phd-thesis/original_sin.html
main page
http://www.duniho.com/fergus/academic/phd-thesis/
more very good stuff
Original Sin answers already the question "how to read the commandments?" - or better - Original Sin teaches, the question is not needed, it does not matter how to read the commandments.
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