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Todd Erickson
September 30th, 2010, 06:09 AM
The bible states that all of our tech trends, our music, etc. came from Cain's kids, not from Seth's, who were dutiful farmers. Does this mean that in heaven, where there is no sin, there will be no technology or musical instruments?

Lorie Hatcliff
September 30th, 2010, 07:20 AM
Where does it say this in the Bible?

Todd Erickson
September 30th, 2010, 11:38 AM
Genesis 4: 17-22

Shea Zellweger
September 30th, 2010, 11:46 AM
The bible states that all of our tech trends, our music, etc. came from Cain's kids, not from Seth's, who were dutiful farmers. Does this mean that in heaven, where there is no sin, there will be no technology or musical instruments?

or perhaps it means that the sins of the father did not cause God to remove the creative spark from the children.

John Kennedy
September 30th, 2010, 12:11 PM
The bible states that all of our tech trends, our music, etc. came from Cain's kids, not from Seth's, who were dutiful farmers. Does this mean that in heaven, where there is no sin, there will be no technology or musical instruments?

Depends on whether or not the Churches of Christ have taken over.

Susan Unger
September 30th, 2010, 12:30 PM
The bible states that all of our tech trends, our music, etc. came from Cain's kids, not from Seth's, who were dutiful farmers. Does this mean that in heaven, where there is no sin, there will be no technology or musical instruments?

Well, David used music in his worship of God so I doubt that music will be taboo in Heaven. Or, it could be that in the same way that God declared all foods clean in the NT, music and technology are 'clean'.

Paul DeBaufer
September 30th, 2010, 01:30 PM
The bible states that all of our tech trends, our music, etc. came from Cain's kids, not from Seth's, who were dutiful farmers. Does this mean that in heaven, where there is no sin, there will be no technology or musical instruments?

How do we reconcile that with Genesis 7: 23He blotted out every living thing that was on the face of the ground, human beings and animals and creeping things and birds of the air; they were blotted out from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those that were with him in the ark.

Earlier we see that only Noah his wife and sons and daughter-in-law were in the boat. Unless Noah's wife or daughters-in-law were descendants of Cain.

David Lyons
September 30th, 2010, 05:21 PM
Well, David used music in his worship of God so I doubt that music will be taboo in Heaven. Or, it could be that in the same way that God declared all foods clean in the NT, music and technology are 'clean'.

I agree with you, Susan, about music, but I have been around enough technology in current use to suspect that in Heaven we will be worshiping in a setting with beautiful acoustics and won't need any other "technology".:praying::smilies1722::smilies0275:

Susan Unger
September 30th, 2010, 05:41 PM
I agree with you, Susan, about music, but I have been around enough technology in current use to suspect that in Heaven we will be worshiping in a setting with beautiful acoustics and won't need any other "technology".:praying::smilies1722::smilies0275:

I'm with you :)

Bill Morrison
October 5th, 2010, 10:07 PM
A debate on music and technology is even being debated right now in the classical music world. My issue of BBC Music Magazine, just arrived today, discusses the raging debate on whether or not amplification should be used in concert halls to make classical music more enticing to young people, etc. I am with the previous poster who suggests that in heaven things will be different enough that our antiquated "technology" will likely be a moot point.

BILL

Susan Unger
October 5th, 2010, 10:20 PM
A debate on music and technology is even being debated right now in the classical music world. My issue of BBC Music Magazine, just arrived today, discusses the raging debate on whether or not amplification should be used in concert halls to make classical music more enticing to young people, etc. I am with the previous poster who suggests that in heaven things will be different enough that our antiquated "technology" will likely be a moot point.

BILL

Classical concerts are JUST FINE without amplification. I already can't enjoy church because of it, don't want to have my symphony concerts ruined now, too.

Bill Morrison
October 5th, 2010, 10:29 PM
Classical concerts are JUST FINE without amplification. I already can't enjoy church because of it, don't want to have my symphony concerts ruined now, too.

Take it from a 59-year old, it is only going to get worse as we get older.
I am still able to tolerate the student praise bands in MNU chapel (noise-wise: still working some on the lyrics and music), but some of the older professors literally have to arrive late at chapel because their ears can't tolerate the amplification.

BILL

Susan Unger
October 6th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Take it from a 59-year old, it is only going to get worse as we get older.
I am still able to tolerate the student praise bands in MNU chapel (noise-wise: still working some on the lyrics and music), but some of the older professors literally have to arrive late at chapel because their ears can't tolerate the amplification.

BILLI knew such things were happening in church/college chapel, I just didn't want my classical symphony concerts ruined, too. I am almost two decades younger than yourself but I can't be in my own church during the AM service due to the loud amplified noise. In fact, I am seriously considering leaving my Naz church altogether in order to attend a nice, quiet Methodist church down the street.

PS - you know it is loud when my hearing impaired father can turn off his hearing aids and still hear perfectly what is going on.