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G R 'Scott' Cundiff
12th January 2006, 02:54 PM (14:54)
I did an addition to steaming possibilities at www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) yesterday and would appreciate some who might be willing to check it out and give me a report.

We have been streaming mp3 from the beginning. The best way to listen is to download and install a program like Winamp.

However, that is a big step for some people, so I did some research and came up with, what I think is a workable way for people to listen with Windows Media Player.

The WMP must be fairly current v.9 or 10, but it should work just fine.

To test it, go to www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) and click on the "Listen (Windows Media)" link, top center of the page.

Please report here, good or bad! Thanks.

If it works okay, I will add the same to our church page for sermon streaming. And -- I will tell how to do it here for those who are interested.

David R. Felter
12th January 2006, 03:57 PM (15:57)
The new window opened and WMP was there, but nothing was playing. I have WMP 10.

Edit: Could be my firewall here at work. I just tried the red and blue streams and could not connect.

Ron Davis
12th January 2006, 05:55 PM (17:55)
It worked just fine for me in IE. However I am missing a plugin for it to work with Mozilla. When I clicked to install the missing plugin it told me a suitable one could not be found. I have spent zero time trying to figure it out.

Gina Stevenson
12th January 2006, 09:01 PM (21:01)
... the way I've heard KJIC when I tried was "Real Player" ... it takes a few minutes before it quits the stop-start-stop-start, but then it seems to go fine, unless I get so much memory used up that it suddenly stops while I'm opening a bit too many sites for it to work alongside.

It worked just fine for me in IE. However I am missing a plugin for it to work with Mozilla. When I clicked to install the missing plugin it told me a suitable one could not be found. I have spent zero time trying to figure it out.

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
14th January 2006, 12:39 PM (12:39)
Thanks for the reports. I was hoping for more, but appreciate these.

I have tried it with Windows Media Player on 3 different internet connects and was able to listen on 2 of them. The other had a firewall issue.

Thanks again for checking it for me.

Garth Lahana
14th January 2006, 01:59 PM (13:59)
Scott

Just tried it from here in the Netherlands and it works great. By the way when are you on the air? I noticed it said you're the night DJ, but time does that translate to?

Thanks

Garth

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
14th January 2006, 02:24 PM (14:24)
I think you are about 7 hours ahead of us, so your time I am on from 3:00 to 11:00.

Be sure to get up at 3:00 so you can listen!

(Thanks for the report)



Scott

Just tried it from here in the Netherlands and it works great. By the way when are you on the air? I noticed it said you're the night DJ, but time does that translate to?

Thanks

Garth

Michael B. Ross
14th January 2006, 08:13 PM (20:13)
Scott, I just tried it, and it worked fine.

I did an addition to steaming possibilities at www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) yesterday and would appreciate some who might be willing to check it out and give me a report.

We have been streaming mp3 from the beginning. The best way to listen is to download and install a program like Winamp.

However, that is a big step for some people, so I did some research and came up with, what I think is a workable way for people to listen with Windows Media Player.

The WMP must be fairly current v.9 or 10, but it should work just fine.

To test it, go to www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) and click on the "Listen (Windows Media)" link, top center of the page.

Please report here, good or bad! Thanks.

If it works okay, I will add the same to our church page for sermon streaming. And -- I will tell how to do it here for those who are interested.

Adam Spriggs
16th January 2006, 08:38 AM (08:38)
Using Windows Media audio files may not be a good option for Mac users in the future:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/01/13/wmpplayer/index.php

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
16th January 2006, 08:55 AM (08:55)
We already offer 2 mp3 streams, and, since current Windows media player will play mp3, just won't use mp3 .pls files, the link to listen with Windows Media Player is just a way to get the mp3 content to steaming with Windows Media Player.

In other words, Mac users can listen to either one of the .mp3 streams and get the same content.

Using Windows Media audio files may not be a good option for Mac users in the future:

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/01/13/wmpplayer/index.php

Paul Whitaker
16th January 2006, 09:42 AM (09:42)
You're firing on all cylinders here. All modes of listening work. Paul

Christer Hiort
23rd January 2006, 11:05 AM (11:05)
Hello,
Have you tried Podcasting?
It's a very easy way to stream content trough the wildly popular Itunes appication and other RSS readers.
You can find my church Newstart church of the Nazarene in Frisco Texas if you want to check it out.

Christer

Christer Hiort
23rd January 2006, 02:21 PM (14:21)
Itunes Podcast is a good option for both Mac and Windows users...

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
23rd January 2006, 02:27 PM (14:27)
Podcasting is pretty neat, but a radio station that plays copyrighted music has to be careful. We pay annual fees to broadcast and to stream audio. Podcasting music would create some real problems legally.

That doesn't mean that an individual can't capture and replay streamed music, just that the radio station can't format it's streamed audio for that purpose.


Hello,
Have you tried Podcasting?
It's a very easy way to stream content trough the wildly popular Itunes appication and other RSS readers.
You can find my church Newstart church of the Nazarene in Frisco Texas if you want to check it out.

Christer

Brad Mercer
23rd January 2006, 03:05 PM (15:05)
Podcasting is pretty neat, but a radio station that plays copyrighted music has to be careful. We pay annual fees to broadcast and to stream audio. Podcasting music would create some real problems legally.

That doesn't mean that an individual can't capture and replay streamed music, just that the radio station can't format it's streamed audio for that purpose.

Yes, Christer doesn't podcast our music; he only podcasts our Sunday morning sermons.

Brad

Christer Hiort
25th January 2006, 11:14 AM (11:14)
Yes, Christer doesn't podcast our music; he only podcasts our Sunday morning sermons.

Brad

Thanks for the clarification Brad.

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
25th January 2006, 05:07 PM (17:07)
Thanks for the clarification Brad.

I understood that too. I was responding to the question "Have we tried podcasting."

Cecil Wallace
26th January 2006, 02:11 PM (14:11)
Scott, I'm listening to you right now, at 2:10 p.m. on Thursday.
I'm using Windows Media Player (blue stream.)
I connected right away on the first try, and it sounds great.

Thanks,
:fav18

Bob Woolley
27th January 2006, 03:37 PM (15:37)
Sounds fine here up north on the east coast, Nova Scotia to be exact. Using Windows Media player...no stoppage...good sound, clear and stable signal...no problem. I have listened for an hour with no stoppage. We have DSL through Aliant ISP.

We stream our church service on our local Radio Station, CKEC 1320kz who has presently applied for an FM license here with 80,000 watts. (now has 25,000 watts AM). We have listeners in British Isles who have called the church to say they have listened to our church broadcasts.

Listening to radio on the internet is widely becoming a regular acceptable medium.

Blessings, Bob

(where it is hovering around 30 -32 F today with a little bit of snow on the ground but the wind is cold near the water)

Jon Twitchell
27th January 2006, 05:33 PM (17:33)
Got it working great here...pretty good quality...right in the middle of sharathon, I hear! :)

Praying it goes well.

Grace and Peace,

Jon

Orbin Crouch
27th January 2006, 09:32 PM (21:32)
Just tried it here in West Texas, and it sounded good on WMP.
Orbin

Gina Stevenson
27th January 2006, 09:33 PM (21:33)
Not sure what's different ... or what I may be doing differently ... because I was listening for a good while a couple of weeks ago. NOW, when I try tonight, it keeps telling me it cannot establish a connection with the server. Any ideas???

Thanks!

I did an addition to steaming possibilities at www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) yesterday and would appreciate some who might be willing to check it out and give me a report.

We have been streaming mp3 from the beginning. The best way to listen is to download and install a program like Winamp.

However, that is a big step for some people, so I did some research and came up with, what I think is a workable way for people to listen with Windows Media Player.

The WMP must be fairly current v.9 or 10, but it should work just fine.

To test it, go to www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) and click on the "Listen (Windows Media)" link, top center of the page.

Please report here, good or bad! Thanks.

If it works okay, I will add the same to our church page for sermon streaming. And -- I will tell how to do it here for those who are interested.

Orbin Crouch
28th January 2006, 07:01 AM (07:01)
Gina:
I'm afraid that you'll have to consult with someone a little more adapt at that software than I am.
Orbin

Gina Stevenson
28th January 2006, 02:02 PM (14:02)
... when RealPlayer worked a couple of weeks ago, and I couldn't get it to work at all last night ... nor WindowsMediaPlayer ... I went ahead and DL'd WinAmp that Scott suggested.

It worked. So, guess that will be my "radio" hookup ... tho' it stops every now & then ... like it's stuttering ... and it didn't do it quite so much a couple of weeks ago with the other player. Interesting phenomenon ....

Carsten Schermuly
28th January 2006, 03:57 PM (15:57)
... like it's stuttering ...



While loading the streaming movie, we can watch it already, it does not need to wait for a complete download.

Large files will be splitted to single parts - and this parts are buffered in separate cache files. Once you have seen the content of a buffer, the next buffer must be filled - to be able to see the movie without interrupt. This must be done quickly. To load up a buffer must be done faster as to watch the movie.

Since a streaming movie will show every second 25 or 30 pictures, the speed of watching is permanenty the same during the whole movie. Once an online connection speed is too slow, the buffering process lasts too long. The Player has reached the end of a buffer content before the next buffer is filled up - the player has to wait for a moment, unto the buffer will be filled.

This is why most movies are offered as an analog version (small movie format) and a ISDN two channel or DSL version (large movie format).

Once a connection speed is fasten enaugh, but the Player still stutters, the networks cable is used by too many connections - it causes in a slower loading speed, named as baudrate. So - on some days it is thinkable also small movies (with a small needing on storage space) can not been downloaded without interuptions - without a relation to the described buffering process under the foresign of a fasten enaugh connection. Not at least because sometimes overload cables and servers, spam is highly unwanted.

Gina Stevenson
28th January 2006, 04:08 PM (16:08)
Thanks, Carsten ... reminded me that I am still on dial-up. ;)

Notice when I don't touch my computer (not using it for anything else at all), then it doens't do this "stuttering." Apparently the dial-up can only let so much data DL at once, in spite of my memory being raised from 64MB to 512MB recently. Oh, well ...................

Still have to check on that package deal ... house, cell, and DSL ... to see if it might add up to no more than all three. THAT IS, if my company, being bought by someone else, can still be considered AT&T with my cell bill saying AT&T, tho' the phone says Cingular.

Carsten Schermuly
28th January 2006, 04:12 PM (16:12)
Once users are not able to see movies or to hear radio without difficuzlties, the reason must net be on the users computer (client) or the server, the files come from.
While I listen to Scotts radio station without any bad thing, another one in a neighbour house in our street in Bad Gandersheim, Germany could have only difficulties. It can be (must not) a question, wich way the connection client / server will be switched - over a pretty fasten cable or around the half world. This will differ - after priorities and free capacities.
Only in rare cases really computer configuration conflicts need to look for help on hardware or on software.

Once you will have a fasten connection and it stuttuttuttutters - click "reload". Maybe your browsers or listening program request will be lead then a faster way across the internet.

Carsten Schermuly
28th January 2006, 04:26 PM (16:26)
Thanks, Carsten ... reminded me that I am still on dial-up. ;)

Notice when I don't touch my computer (not using it for anything else at all), then it doens't do this "stuttering."



troubleshooting - if I were you, I would not touch it to be able to get Scotts radio without that didididididings
Or
do not run not needed programs in background to save RAM capacities - and use just really needed programs, opened by hand.



Apparently the dial-up can only let so much data DL at once, in spite of my memory being raised from 64MB to 512MB recently. Oh, well ...................

Still have to check on that package deal ... house, cell, and DSL ... to see if it might add up to no more than all three. THAT IS, if my company, being bought by someone else, can still be considered AT&T with my cell bill saying AT&T, tho' the phone says Cingular.



More RAM might be the better way - as more RAM as better. A faster connection is also recommended (over here a DSL flatrate is really cheap - and we get phonecalls inside Germany for free) - but first I would try to get more RAM - and see what is going on then. I can remember to a 65 K modem I used analog, it was nearby as fasten as ISDN.

BobHunt
5th February 2006, 06:38 PM (18:38)
Windows Media works great for me! It was coming through clear as crysal!

Steve Reece
15th February 2006, 11:26 PM (23:26)
I did an addition to steaming possibilities at www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org) yesterday and would appreciate some who might be willing to check it out and give me a report.
...

It sounded great. I could listen to either link from iTunes. Firefox did not try to run it as a plug-in but instead spawned the links.

Gina Stevenson
15th February 2006, 11:50 PM (23:50)
One hot station there, Scott! Afterall, it must be hot ... it's "steaming."

Couldn't resist this one ... since something like a musical station could be called "hot," just tho't this was a cute play-on-words typo. Good one! :basic05


Originally Posted by G R 'Scott' Cundiff
I did an addition to steaming possibilities at www.kjic.org (http://www.kjic.org/) yesterday and would appreciate some who might be willing to check it out and give me a report.
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