Question regarding recording services?

[Bob Woolley]

The way I have been recording our services now requires many steps and I would like to cut this down to a minimum.

I record on cassette tape and take the tape home and transfer the tape from my tape deck into my computer making a wav file and then burning to a CD. I edit much of it but I think I could probably edit this by hand in church now with the proper device for recording.

I would like to record the service using MP3 and then take it home download from an MP3 recorder and burn to a CD and upload to the church web site. This would require me to encode it into wav for the CD but I think it would still be easier.

I usually record maybe one hymn or song along with the message. I need a device that has relatively good quality and useful for this purpose? What do you use to record on and what is your method that is simple using less time than what I described above?

Here is what I thought might work for me.... I would buy one of these iRiver MP3 models and record the service from the back pew next to the sound booth. All I need is a wire from the sound mixer to my iRiver MP3 Player / Recorder and then I could edit as I listen. Does anyone have one of these iRivers and does it have a good quality record?

When I have researched this device online, this model is the only one that most recommend for recording notes and with an input for using what I describe.

Does any one use a better way with relatively little expense?

Link to iRiver device (Here (http://www.thesourcecc.com/estore/Product.aspx?language=en-CA&catalog=Online&category=MP3-Flash&product=1419651))

[Mark Bolerjack]

Amazon.com has it for 79.99. Same model, the iRiver T30.

See it Here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009OOD9Q/sr=1-2/qid=1137814177/ref=sr_1_2/002-1319277-1060045?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Here is what I thought might work for me.... I would buy one of these iRiver MP3 models and record the service from the back pew next to the sound booth. All I need is a wire from the sound mixer to my iRiver MP3 Player / Recorder and then I could edit as I listen. Does anyone have one of these iRivers and does it have a good quality record?

Does any one use a better way with relatively little expense?


Bob, just a quick question -- do you have a sound booth computer that is wired (or can be wired) to the sound board?

If so, it would be very easy to record the service with Audacity, save to a USB drive and take it home and upload it onto the internet.

[Larry Osweiler]

I was always under the assumption that we could not record music from a service unless it was a public domain song. CCLI told us that their copyright license did not cover recording any music. All the CCLI copyright was good for was "congregational" singing. That meant that choral music, solos, and drama could not be recorded also.
Anyone have thoughts on this?

[Brad Mercer]

I was always under the assumption that we could not record music from a service unless it was a public domain song. CCLI told us that their copyright license did not cover recording any music. All the CCLI copyright was good for was "congregational" singing. That meant that choral music, solos, and drama could not be recorded also.
Anyone have thoughts on this?

That's my understanding, also. We only put our sermons in audio files on our website for that reason. Our sound guy does record the whole service and puts it on a server, but you have to know the link; it's not posted anywhere. That lets the music team listen to themselves to see how the music service sounded, to see how they did, without making it available to the public.

I don't know how our guys do it, exactly, but the whole service is being recorded directly onto a laptop, and the sermon is usually available for listening online by the time I get home from church.

Brad

[Christer Hiort]

I'm the sound guy that Brad is referring to :-)

1) We have one laptop where we record the whole service and we share that with the music team in order for them to listen how it sounded.

2) We have another laopto where the actual sermon is recorded. I use a cheap but competent program called TotalRecorder.
The benefit is that I can convert the recording to MP3 or Windows Media or anything I would need.
We then post the Windows Media file on our web site, and use an Mp3 for streaming trough the Podcast function in Itunes.

Regards / Christer

[Bill Slayton]

Why make assumptions? Here's the scoop straight from the horse's mouth regarding the "Church Copyright License":

What You Can Do (What the License covers)
• Print songs, hymns and lyrics in bulletins, programs, liturgies and songsheets for use in congregational singing.
• Create your own customized songbooks or hymnals for use in congregational singing.
• Create overhead transparencies, slides, or use any other format whereby songs are visually projected (such as computer graphics and projection) for use in congregational singing.
• Arrange, print and copy your own vocal or instrumental arrangements of songs for congregational use, where no published version is available.
• Record your worship services by audio or video means, provided you only record "live&" music (instrumental and vocal). Accompaniment tracks cannot be reproduced. You may also charge up to $4.00 (U.S.) / $5.00 (CAN) each for audio tapes and CDs, and $12.00 (U.S.) / $15.00 (CAN) each for video tapes and DVDs.
The quantity of recorded copies allowed per service cannot exceed 15% of the maximum number of your church size category.
What You Cannot Do (What the License does not cover)
• Photocopy or duplicate octavos, cantatas, musicals, handbell music, keyboard arrangements, vocal scores, orchestrations or other instrumental works.
• Translate songs from one language to another. This can only be done with the approval of the respective copyright owner.
• Rent, sell, lend, or distribute copies made under the Church Copyright License to individuals or groups outside the church, or to other churches. However, you may distribute tapes to shut-ins, missionaries, or others outside the church.
• Assign or transfer the Church Copyright License to any other church or group without CCLI's approval.


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[Adam Spriggs]

We use a Tascam CD-RW750 (http://www.tascam.com/Products/CD-RW750.html) deck for recording our sermons directly to CD. The CDs also serve as the source for our podcast episodes. I use CDex (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdexos/) to rip the tracks to MP3.

Here's the Froogle search (http://www.google.com/froogle?q=CD-RW700+tascam&btnG=Search) on this Tascam model.