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Walter Thompson
23rd January 2006, 11:39 PM (23:39)
This is a fantastic book. I cried through most of the beginning to the middle. Then I read with anticipation of the changes that were taking place. Guys, if you haven't read this book, you need to. It is undoubtably the best book I have read on the subject of parental (father) relationships. Sorry ladies it is not for woment. You can read the book but the whole concept is for men.
Written by Greg Vaughn the book can be read in one setting. But if you are anything like me you will want at least two sittings because it pierces your soul with the lives that are changed.

Walter Thompson
24th January 2006, 06:16 PM (18:16)
I guess I should have read the "Read this first" post. Sorry. I am so excited about this book. It is the first book I have read in many years that I read intwo days and wanted to keep reading until I finished.
Guys this is a must read. It is the most inspirational book about being a father I have ever read. Sorry if I am redundent.

Wanda Van Winkle
26th January 2006, 09:04 AM (09:04)
I want to make sure I get the right book. Does it also have a co-author named Holmes?

Walter Thompson
26th January 2006, 12:43 PM (12:43)
Yes Wanda. He is not really a co-author he contibuted something though. This is a book that really is for your husband. It would be good to give him but for you to not read it. I am giving away 6 copies now and will get some more to give away. I am going to try totalk our church in participating in training and buy about 50 books. It rerally is that powerful of a book. But, it is for a father or husband, not for women. It needs to be that way on this one.

Wanda Van Winkle
27th January 2006, 12:11 AM (00:11)
I never thought I'd debate on the book recommendation listing, but I'm sorry, if I give this book to anybody--I was thinking of my brother--I'm going to read it first. And my brother or anybody else is welcome to read any of my "girl books." The last I heard, it's a free country. They don't have a boys only or girls only section at the library.

But thanks for the recommendation. I do understand you think it will HELP men and not women.

Barbara Moulton
27th January 2006, 07:33 AM (07:33)
This is a book that really is for your husband. It would be good to give him but for you to not read it.

Why would it not be good for a woman to read it?

Curiosity peaked.

Walter Thompson
29th January 2006, 08:05 PM (20:05)
This book is written to men to help men to do some things that they should be doing and might not be doing. It is closely related to Promise keepers. In the book an interesting fact is that only one woman has ever been at a training course. His mother.
They reason I said that women should not read it it is this, if you read it and then decided to give it to your husband and he didn't do anything, you will be very disappointed. If however you gave it to him and he did what is in the book you will be thrilled. Also you would know he was doing it because he wanted to not because he was expected.
Sometimes there are things that are good for just the men and some for the women. I don't have aproblem with anyone reading this book, but I really believe that the women in the mens lifes as well as their children will miss a great blessing on this issue.
Don't mean to offend anyone. It is that it is just that type of book. Written with the encouragement that "fathers....." Maybe somewhere along the line a woman might write the same type of book and it would be for women. I would rather give it to a woman and have her do the wonderful truths of scripture as they apply to her than give it to her after I have read it.
I think the outcome will be very different.
So forgive me for making such a suggestion, I really didn't think it would offend anyone. Also, I said that anyone could read it but it directed at men.

Gina Stevenson
29th January 2006, 08:47 PM (20:47)
But, Walt, you know women! If someone, especially a man, tells them a book isn't for them ... well, it really piques their interest! ha!

Yeah, I "peeked" at some of Danny's PromiseKeepers' "stuff" ... good stuff! Interesting stuff ... he liked PK, in fact, so guess it didn't matter that I did, too. :p

But, you do know what happens when a man tells a woman "NO!" hee-hee

Well, not always ... just in a weird have-to-pick-&-tease mood tonight, I guess. I'll stop now, after adding, a bit more seriously, PK I believe has done something for some men they'd never have heard/read about if it had not been for PK's coming into existence. Some have bashed it, partly due to its ecumenical nature, but it was more about helping men be men of God/spiritual leaders than anything, so I surely was not going to bash it.

gina

This book is written to men to help men to do some things that they should be doing and might not be doing. It is closely related to Promise keepers. In the book an interesting fact is that only one woman has ever been at a training course. His mother.
They reason I said that women should not read it it is this, if you read it and then decided to give it to your husband and he didn't do anything, you will be very disappointed. If however you gave it to him and he did what is in the book you will be thrilled. Also you would know he was doing it because he wanted to not because he was expected.
Sometimes there are things that are good for just the men and some for the women. I don't have aproblem with anyone reading this book, but I really believe that the women in the mens lifes as well as their children will miss a great blessing on this issue.
Don't mean to offend anyone. It is that it is just that type of book. Written with the encouragement that "fathers....." Maybe somewhere along the line a woman might write the same type of book and it would be for women. I would rather give it to a woman and have her do the wonderful truths of scripture as they apply to her than give it to her after I have read it.
I think the outcome will be very different.
So forgive me for making such a suggestion, I really didn't think it would offend anyone. Also, I said that anyone could read it but it directed at men.

Barbara Moulton
30th January 2006, 02:01 PM (14:01)
This book is written to men to help men to do some things that they should be doing and might not be doing. It is closely related to Promise keepers. In the book an interesting fact is that only one woman has ever been at a training course. His mother.
They reason I said that women should not read it it is this, if you read it and then decided to give it to your husband and he didn't do anything, you will be very disappointed. If however you gave it to him and he did what is in the book you will be thrilled. Also you would know he was doing it because he wanted to not because he was expected.
Sometimes there are things that are good for just the men and some for the women. I don't have aproblem with anyone reading this book, but I really believe that the women in the mens lifes as well as their children will miss a great blessing on this issue.
Don't mean to offend anyone. It is that it is just that type of book. Written with the encouragement that "fathers....." Maybe somewhere along the line a woman might write the same type of book and it would be for women. I would rather give it to a woman and have her do the wonderful truths of scripture as they apply to her than give it to her after I have read it.
I think the outcome will be very different.
So forgive me for making such a suggestion, I really didn't think it would offend anyone. Also, I said that anyone could read it but it directed at men.

Well...not quite. You implied it would not be good for women to read it. That wording alone is enough to pique anyone's interest. Thanks for explaining.

However, I have to say that any woman who thinks she can change her husband by giving him a book to read probably deserves to be disappointed :-)

Gina Stevenson
30th January 2006, 02:08 PM (14:08)
However, I have to say that any woman who thinks she can change her husband by giving him a book to read probably deserves to be disappointed :-)
Good one, Barbara! Think you're right, too! ha! ;)

More seriously, he does have to have the "want to" for any such book to do some good.