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Ian Gentles
November 14th, 2010, 12:35 PM
This is one great film about Americans capturing an enigma code machine from a German submarine. Well worth watching if you like fast moving actiom.


But hold on, It realy was a British submarine that time, no Americans involved. Second time one was captured by British and Canadian Navy. Yep Americans got one in 1944.
Makes me wonder why American film makers made it an American crew???

But film is still worth watching.

Hal Paul
November 14th, 2010, 01:28 PM
Maybe it's easier to take heat for historical inaccuracy than it is for trying to be historically accurate and getting beat up because Matthew McConaughey botches a British accent.

Billie Goodson
November 14th, 2010, 02:26 PM
It is the more culturally aware version. The story in the movie is how it should have happened which may or may not be how you have heard it in the past.

Ian Gentles
November 14th, 2010, 03:07 PM
My point was not Anti American, but anti American film makers.

Andy Mistak
November 14th, 2010, 03:19 PM
My point was not Anti American, but anti American film makers.

Oh, I think stuff like that is a great (and hilarious) metaphor for American attitudes. Most of us can take a little criticism, especially about stuff as trivial as movies.:)

David Graham
November 14th, 2010, 05:36 PM
It's not just a scenario promoted by American film makers, I remember watching a movie on the Rat's of Trobuk, which starred Richard Burton as a British officer in charge of an Australian contingent who were a part of this defencive action. From an Australian perspective the message was clear...... we were good fighters but undisciplined and (being former colonials) we needed British leadership if we were to do any good.

BALONY!

After the Boer War and the shameful treatment of the Australian troops under British leadership...... particularly "Breaker Morant", Australian units have always been led by Australian officers. Thus the Desert Rats, were Australian Battalions led by Australian officers and achieved a seemingly impossible defence against overwhelming odds; it would have done British film makers a lot more credit if they had acknowledged that too.

Likewise, in the film "Lawrance of Arabia", the film shows that it was Lawrance and the Arabs which captured Damascus from the Turks....... again this was rubbish, for military records reveal that it was an Australian Division that captured the city........ but again the film makers conveniently chose to overlook that.

I'm not anti British either, but often I suspect that film script writers (of whatever National brand) regard the cultural audience to which they hope to appeal a greater consideration when writing a script than actually representing the truth of the situation.

Dave

Ryan Scott
November 15th, 2010, 08:33 AM
It's essentially a fictionalized story about a real event. Very few of the details are accurate at all; it goes well beyond the country of origin. Capturing the enigma machine was the major turning point in the first half of the war - the Germans were unaware that the allies had the machine for an extended period of time, which turned the tide of control over the Atlantic.

I thought the movie was pretty good, including a surprisingly good performance from John Bon Jovi.