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BobHunt
29th October 2005, 09:58 PM (21:58)
the second work of grace we call Sanctification, and having to do with those sermons that Scott has/has been preaching about, here is an excerpt from the man who founded the little Bible College we attended in Cincinnati. His name is Martin Wells Kapp, and if you like his writings, he also wrote one called "Impressions."
He writes about Conversion and Sanctification and shows the difference.

Conversion is the first cure. It resurrects the dead soul. It forgives all past transgressions. It imparts to the soul spiritual life, spiritual consciousness, spiritual relationships, spiritual possessions, a spiritual appetite, spiritual discernment, spiritual aversions to all sin, actual and imbred, and spiritual loyalty to Christ, it's spiritual King. It gives an appetite for spiritual food and thirst for spiritual drink. It checks the imbred sin and keeps it under. It imparts God's love to the soul. It plants all the graces of the spirit in the soul-garden, and keeps the weeds of carnality under. That it does not, however, effect a complete cure is clear from the Word, from church creeds, and from the testimony of God's children.....The Double Cure not only cleanses the heart from all sin and fills it with perfect love, but also emancipates the tongue. Hence, all who have received it, divinely taught, proclaim its worth and magnify its Author.
"The Double Cure"--M. W. Knapp
Founder of God's Bible School and
College, and "The Revivalist"
(College Paper)

Bruce Carriker
30th October 2005, 08:30 AM (08:30)
Shows the difference? Or shows the difference as he has experienced it? Knapp's writing is distinctly American Holiness Movement, which is no surprise, since Knapp was an AHM guy. His writings would mirror (or nearly so) those of Steele, Hills, Wood, and most of the other Holiness writers of the second half of the 19th century, first half of the 20th century.

G R 'Scott' Cundiff
30th October 2005, 12:30 PM (12:30)
I don't necessarily disagree with the quote, although I fear that in some cases the deeper work of grace has been a bit over sold -- maybe confusing sanctification with glorification!

My approach is to proclaim the possibility of a deeper experience with God and help people who hunger for it rather than debate with people who doubt it or need to deal with it from a more scholarly perspective.

I just know what happened to me as a young teen, a personal event that was life changing -- a deeper relationship with God that I believe is solidly Biblical and is available to all who humbly and sincerely seek it.

BobHunt
30th October 2005, 12:48 PM (12:48)
and I am sure that the Lord is rewarding you for bringing those messages! Theres nothing more powerful than a personal testimony about what you are speaking of!