Would any Canadians or anyone else

[Jim Franklin]

wish to contibute to my Seventh grade Social Studies class some understanding since we take up a section on Canada starting Tuesday?

[Barbara Moulton]

wish to contibute to my Seventh grade Social Studies class some understanding since we take up a section on Canada starting Tuesday?

What sort of contribution are you looking for?

[Bruce Carriker]

Hmmm...

1. Hockey

2. Beer

3. Curling

4. Curling and beer

5. Some of them speak French and want to be their own country.


What did I forget, Barbara??

[Edith K. Thurmond]

Hmmm...

What did I forget, Barbara??

How about the largest oil reserves and the best producing uranium mines in the world?

Canada is often overlooked as a huge reservoir of natural resources. It is becoming a larger player as time goes on. I suspect Canada (as a whole) is a, heretofore, undiscovered gem in the world natural resources category. With the new middle class that has immerged recently in China and India, consumer demand for oil worldwide will only increase. Venezuela, Canada, and other oil-producing nations have new markets now and can choose countries to whom they will export crude oil. Last month's announcement from Venezuelan authorities was not good for the U.S. Oil prices will continue to rise, so investing wisely within a certain batch of these oils stocks will prove profitable. Energy demands are only escalating world-wide.

Due to the global-warming, the earth's storms, etc. will probably only become more violent and more intense than in previous times and will necessitate a reduction in the amount of fossil fuels burned if we are to have any semblance of normality. As the demand for energy increases world-wide, that will open the door for the necessity and construction of safe new nuclear power plants. Presto! Demand for uranium will become greater, so those who have invested in good uranium mines will profit. Australia, also, has many good producing mines.

Real estate in the western section of Canada is commanding high prices. Investing in housing and other real estate in that area can bring high profits. Canada is booming! Both Canada and Australia are considered friends of the U.S.

The recent immergence of the new vast middle class in both China and India will have/is having a huge impact on our world economy. Those who realize this and take action can improve their 'portfolio.' Those who don't could later be wishing they had acted.

This question was posed to a Canadian, but this U.S. citizen has been formally studying this for the past year, and I do believe Canada will be able to 'write her own ticket' in the energy and certain real estate markets.

[Barbara Moulton]

Hmmm...

1. Hockey

2. Beer

3. Curling

4. Curling and beer

5. Some of them speak French and want to be their own country.


What did I forget, Barbara??

What did you forget? Well...everything that makes ME a Canadian for a start. The only one that sort of applies is #5. I speak some French but I don't want to start my own country.

[Barbara Moulton]

Thanks for your comments Edith. You are right.

Natural resources will be huge for Canada in the years ahead. We have no deficit. Our dollar is rising. The economy is performing well. My husband's investments in Canadian resource companies are rising every day.

This question was posed to a Canadian, but this U.S. citizen has been formally studying this for the past year, and I do believe Canada will be able to 'write her own ticket' in the energy and certain real estate markets.

[Marilyn Lawson]

wish to contibute to my Seventh grade Social Studies class some understanding since we take up a section on Canada starting Tuesday?

We have lots of resources that any one would love to get ahold of.

We are patriotic about our country!!!

We welcomed people from off cornors of the world to come and make a life for themselves here.

Our country is there to help in need.

We have free health care system - at least for now!!

Long history going back to the orginal settlers - the Indians.

The Hudson Bay Company - the first trading post in Canada that grew and is still in operation.

We have the largest land space and are only using (I think) 25% of it for living in.

So much more to say - Narrow down the field a bit please!!!

Marilyn

[Barbara Moulton]

Long history going back to the orginal settlers - the Indians.


And we have the oldest city in North America.

Does anyone know what that city is?

[Barbara Moulton]

Hey Marilyn...I think it is time for the Canadian rant isn't it????

Just sorry is part of a beer commercial :)

http://www.coolcanuckaward.ca/joe_canadian.htm

[Jim Franklin]

Thanks for your contributions. I will emphasize resource base, the future prospects, hockey and curling. I know that Canada has a new prime minister and a alteration in direction as a result of the last general election. I would like to know the general feeling about the division of the Northwest Territories to make a new province, Nunavut? Is it still an accepted concept that something like 90% of the population lives within 200 miles of the southern border and, of course, the longest undefended border in the world. Wonder how many of the US draft dodgers of the Vietnam War era decided to stay?

[Gina Stevenson]

Hey Marilyn...I think it is time for the Canadian rant isn't it????

Just sorry is part of a beer commercial :)

http://www.coolcanuckaward.ca/joe_canadian.htm

Hey! That was cooooooool !! :fav18 Funny how tho' I've seen that brand of beer advertised here (happens during sports, basically), I don't ever recall hearing/seeing that "Canadian rant" here. Apparently, they figure some in the US don't want to hear their neighbors "rant"?? Unless I missed it when it was on ....

Loved visiting Canada often myself long ago ... however, both Canada and Michigan are not within my "comfort zone" for living permanently ... after getting spoiled somewhat, I guess, by the warmer southwest. ;)

[Gina Stevenson]

Hey Marilyn...I think it is time for the Canadian rant isn't it????

Just sorry is part of a beer commercial :)

http://www.coolcanuckaward.ca/joe_canadian.htm
Well, it appears that there's something other than secession that some in Quebec have an interest in ... that being not wishing to allow Newfoundland to lay claim to having Canada's oldest city, St. John's ... ??? For, some claim Quebec City is the oldest rather than St. Johns.

Had to cheat to find either name, but then no one else had answered yet, so ........... Anyway, here are a couple of the conflicting search engine results:

6.
Canadian Capital Cities Organization (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=8&r_sacop=6&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=5&r_spp=1&qqn=6C_odejP&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/ccco/canadas_capitals_e.asp)
St. John's, with its 500-year history, is the most easterly port and the oldest city in North America. It is a progressive city and is the site of many ...

7.
Canada GenWeb Project - Projet GenWeb du Canada (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=5&r_sacop=7&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=6&r_spp=1&qqn=CK1i4ju%26&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecanwgw/facts.html)
Québec City is the only existing walled city in North America, as well as being the oldest city in North America. Founded 1608 by Samuel de Champlain. ...

Did this conflict possibly come about by one, tho' 500 years old (according to what this says) and the other about 400 years old, not officially "incorporating as a city" as soon as the other one did?

[Barbara Moulton]

Thanks for your contributions. I will emphasize resource base, the future prospects, hockey and curling. I know that Canada has a new prime minister and a alteration in direction as a result of the last general election. I would like to know the general feeling about the division of the Northwest Territories to make a new province, Nunavut? Is it still an accepted concept that something like 90% of the population lives within 200 miles of the southern border and, of course, the longest undefended border in the world. Wonder how many of the US draft dodgers of the Vietnam War era decided to stay?

Please, please,don't place hockey and certainly not curling on the same level as our natural resources on the basis of what Bruce said.

Curling is a sport. Many people play it. But I don't see it as an important part of who we are as Canadians. I don't think I know anyone who curls. Hockey is a bigger part of our national cultural but there are many Canadians (like myself) who could care less.

Most people that I talk to, didn't really think too much about the division of the NWT to create the Territory Nunavut. If the natives who populate that area felt it was a good move for them, then I felt it was a good move for Canada...as we have some of the same tension with our native people as you do and anything we can do to help the situation is positive.

While I have met Americans who came to Canada to live, none of them were draft dodgers who came and stayed. I am sure they are part of our population...just never met one.

I don't think there was a huge alteration in our direction with the election of the Conservatives to office in January. First of all, it was a minority government that was elected. I think people were fed up with the scandals of the LIberal party and wanted a change in the area of accountability.

But the first throne speech of the new government did not set forth any dramatic differences in who we are as a country. We started down a more liberal path than the US many years ago and I don't think that will change dramatically.

You are probably right about the population distribution. Most of us are settled in the south. I don't know the exact percentage however.

I think you should also emphasize that Canada has adopted a more "multi cultural" aspect....rather than the "melting pot". We have intentionally developed a culture of tolerance for all cultures. I would note that I have seen a dramatic difference in the last few years. While the US is overtly more Christian (see the poll results I posted in another thread) there is, nvertheless, a movement in the US government to create a "generic" popular culture...stripped of religious symbols etc.

Canada went through a period where multiculturalism seemed to mean tolerance for every culture OTHER than mine. Multiculturalism became problematic for many. But in the last few years, the pendulum has started to swing back and most have realized that we can have a popular culture that allows different expressions of religious faith...including the dominant Christian faith.

I do think that Canadians have become more vocal about their patriotism in the last decade or so. We were always more quiet in our expression of love of country than Americans. But I AM CANADIAN resonated with many people a few years ago.

When I was growing up, I would never hear anyone say that Canada was the "best country" in the world. Now I hear it quite often.

Blessings,
Barbara

[Bruce Carriker]

Barbara...Marilyn....Edith...Jim

Goodness, goodness. I was just kidding. One thing that my own experiences had always proved true till now...excepting an encounter with some Francophiles from Quebec...is that our Canadian neighbors had a much better sense of humor than most Americans. Sorry. I sure didn't mean to offend anyone.

[Barbara Moulton]

Barbara...Marilyn....Edith...Jim

Goodness, goodness. I was just kidding. One thing that my own experiences had always proved true till now...excepting an encounter with some Francophiles from Quebec...is that our Canadian neighbors had a much better sense of humor than most Americans. Sorry. I sure didn't mean to offend anyone.

You didn't offend me :) But I did speak strongly, to ensure that hockey and curling didn't figure largely in Jim's lesson plan. I would hate to see my culture reduced to beer, sports and separatists. And as I thought about it, I realized that the multi cultural aspect is probably one of the most defining aspects of our country and wanted to emphasize that.

Actually, people who know me personally (in real life situations) say that I have a great sense of humour. I think we have both learned that sometimes what we say in humour in this format, doesn't always translate that well.

Blessings,
Barbara

[Marilyn Lawson]

Thank you for the Joe song!!!!

I am posting a pic of me wearingthe shirt I wore in the USA when I was down ther.

Yes I am a very Proud Canadian and will say it every day!!!

I think I did us proud when I was down south.

I love Canada - there are lots of benifits here for us to use.

I love going to other places and learning what they do as well!!

Marilyn

[Marilyn Lawson]

Barbara...Marilyn....Edith...Jim

Goodness, goodness. I was just kidding. One thing that my own experiences had always proved true till now...excepting an encounter with some Francophiles from Quebec...is that our Canadian neighbors had a much better sense of humor than most Americans. Sorry. I sure didn't mean to offend anyone.


Yeah know what - I know many people who live like this their whole lives!!!

I am this way when it comes to the Toronto Maple Leafs playing Hockey!!!

I use to like the very cold brews on the weekend after a hard weeks work (stopped it now).

And I truly hope that Quebec never separates from Canada - I love driving through there and the people and sites are awesome.

So, many people think of Canada as a place where every Canadian lives in an igloo, watches or plays Hockey/Curling and chugs back the brewskis (Mackenzie Brothers).

So I do not take offence at all Bruce.

Canada is a fun place!!!!

Marilyn

[Gina Stevenson]

Barbara...Marilyn....Edith...Jim

Goodness, goodness. I was just kidding. One thing that my own experiences had always proved true till now...excepting an encounter with some Francophiles from Quebec...is that our Canadian neighbors had a much better sense of humor than most Americans. Sorry. I sure didn't mean to offend anyone.
Yes, Bruce ... since Barbara ... and all of us ... couldn't see your grin when you posted, it just might have needed that little ol' "TIC", eh? :basic05

EDITED to add that we figured you were speaking TIC, Bruce ... but if not everyone catches your TIC, well .......

[Bruce Carriker]

Back to hockey....seriously. How do you talk about Canada and not talk about hockey? Not every Canadian is a hockey fan, but there was a time when Hockey Night in Canada was the #1 ranked TV program in Canada. Don't know if that's still true, but it once was.

Trying to deny hockey's place in Canadian culture would be like trying to deny baseball's place in our own here in the U.S.

[Gina Stevenson]

which of these two cities below is considered the official oldest ...

Thanks!


6.
Canadian Capital Cities Organization (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=8&r_sacop=6&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=5&r_spp=1&qqn=6C_odejP&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/ccco/canadas_capitals_e.asp)
St. John's, with its 500-year history, is the most easterly port and the oldest city in North America. It is a progressive city and is the site of many ...

7.
Canada GenWeb Project - Projet GenWeb du Canada (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=5&r_sacop=7&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=6&r_spp=1&qqn=CK1i4ju%26&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecanwgw/facts.html)
Québec City is the only existing walled city in North America, as well as being the oldest city in North America. Founded 1608 by Samuel de Champlain. ...

Did this conflict possibly come about by one, tho' 500 years old (according to what this says) and the other about 400 years old, not officially "incorporating as a city" as soon as the other one did?

[Bruce Carriker]

...For, some claim Quebec City is the oldest rather than St. Johns.

Had to cheat to find either name, but then no one else had answered yet, so ........... Anyway, here are a couple of the conflicting search engine results:

6.
Canadian Capital Cities Organization (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=8&r_sacop=6&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=5&r_spp=1&qqn=6C_odejP&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/ccco/canadas_capitals_e.asp)
St. John's, with its 500-year history, is the most easterly port and the oldest city in North America. It is a progressive city and is the site of many ...

7.
Canada GenWeb Project - Projet GenWeb du Canada (http://www.dogpile.com/info.dogpl/clickit/search?r_aid=F41C3ED69D084E9D858761180D7A5C30&r_eop=5&r_sacop=7&r_spf=0&r_cop=main-title&r_snpp=6&r_spp=1&qqn=CK1i4ju%26&r_coid=239138&rawto=http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Ecanwgw/facts.html)
Québec City is the only existing walled city in North America, as well as being the oldest city in North America. Founded 1608 by Samuel de Champlain. ...

Did this conflict possibly come about by one, tho' 500 years old (according to what this says) and the other about 400 years old, not officially "incorporating as a city" as soon as the other one did?



And where does THIS fit?

The founder of St. Augustine, Pedro Menendez de Aviles and his Spanish fleet arrived off the coast of Florida on August 28, 1565, the Feast Day of St. Augustine. Eleven days later, he and his 600 soldiers and settlers came ashore at the site of the Timucuan Indian village of Seloy with banners flying and trumpets sounding. He hastily fortified the fledgling village and named it St. Augustine.
St. Augustine has been destroyed many times by fire and pirates but its residents never gave up on this pristine location, making it the oldest permanent European settlement on the North American continent.

[Barbara Moulton]

Bruce: Back to hockey....seriously. How do you talk about Canada and not talk about hockey?

Excuse me? Maybe you as an American can't talk about Canada without talking about hockey but up here we manage to find many other things about our country to discuss.

Bruce: Not every Canadian is a hockey fan, but there was a time when Hockey Night in Canada was the #1 ranked TV program in Canada. Don't know if that's still true, but it once was.

I don't know if Hockey Night in Canada is the #1 ranked Canadian TV program or not. Maybe the #1 ranked Canadian show, but I find it hard to believe it has higher ratings than shows like Law and Order :) It probably was much higher ranked when CBC was the only national network and options for American channels were few and far between. But when I was growing up, we watched Bob Newhart, Mary Tyler Moore and Carol Burnett on Saturday night. NOT hockey.

Bruce: Trying to deny hockey's place in Canadian culture would be like trying to deny baseball's place in our own here in the U.S.

I never tried to deny hockey's place in Canada Bruce. It is important to a lot of people. I objected to hockey being used to define my culture. My further objection was to the paring down of my culture that was reflected in your post. Hockey, curling, beer and separatism. A joke or not, it reflected a lack of awareness of the richness that is my country. If the post had been made in the context of joking exchange about our two countries, I would probably have responded to it differently. But it was made in a thread based on a serious request from a teacher. In truth, I would be horrified if hockey and curling were the number one teaching points in anyone's curriculum about Canada.

Baseball is part of US culture yes. But if you were asked to define American culture, I am sure you wouldn't limit your response to four numbered points, two of which contained the word baseball. And I'm not sure that you would appreciate a Canadian trying to tell you that your description of your own culture was inaccurate.
Blessings,
Barbara

[Barbara Moulton]

And where does THIS fit?

The founder of St. Augustine, Pedro Menendez de Aviles and his Spanish fleet arrived off the coast of Florida on August 28, 1565, the Feast Day of St. Augustine. Eleven days later, he and his 600 soldiers and settlers came ashore at the site of the Timucuan Indian village of Seloy with banners flying and trumpets sounding. He hastily fortified the fledgling village and named it St. Augustine.
St. Augustine has been destroyed many times by fire and pirates but its residents never gave up on this pristine location, making it the oldest permanent European settlement on the North American continent.

The earliest record of the city of St. John's Newfoundland appears as San Johem on a Portuguese map by Rienel in 1519. Quebec City is celebrating its 400th anniversary in 2008. So I would put St. John's as the oldest city in North America with some confidence.

[Bruce Carriker]

All I did was ask where it fit. I didn't say it was right. I don't claim authorship of the statement...it was cut and pasted from a website. I'm just curious how at least three different cities make the same claim.

[Barbara Moulton]

All I did was ask where it fit. I didn't say it was right. I don't claim authorship of the statement...it was cut and pasted from a website. I'm just curious how at least three different cities make the same claim.

I sense a note of defensiveness in this response Bruce? Or maybe I am reading you wrong yet again. Yes, all you did was ask where it fit in. I saw that. And all I did was respond with some further information that I found on the web.

Up until a few days ago, I thought Quebec was the second oldest city in North America with St. Augustine being the oldest. I hadn't really thought of St. John's at all.

When I was looking at a few websites to help with some information for Jim, I was surprised see that St. John's seemed to hold the title of oldest city in North America.

So I would think it goes St. John's, St. Augustine and then Quebec.

Blessings,
Barbara