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Nelson Bradford
4th May 2006, 06:49 AM (06:49)
I have the wonderful privilege of transporting Dr Coulter and his wife from ONU to OHare Sat afternoon.

Can any NazNetter fill me in on him?

Is he the brother of one of our former GS? And what was that brother's first name?

What's the deal on our Canadian school name? University AND College both in the name?

HURRY!

I need as much information as possible asap so I can soak it all in and not appear to be the village idiot that I are at times.

Thanx
-neb

ps - Isn't God good?!

Dave McClung
4th May 2006, 12:23 PM (12:23)
Riley Coulter is the nephew of Dr. George Coulter, the former General Superintendent. Riley's father was a faithful layman in the Church of the Nazarene in a small town north of Calgary.

Mrs. Coulter is "Karen."

Riley has been the president of our Nazarene school in Canada for a long time. He is probably best known for moving the school from Winnipeg to Calgary, but he has brought the school from the edge to a solid footing.

Riley's brother, Bill Coulter, is a retired Nazarene Pastor. He was pastor of Kansas City Knoll Ave, Colorado Springs First, and Houston Spring Branch Churches. Bill's wife is also named Karen.

In Canada, they have a way of naming schools that is different from the U.S. (Perhaps that is why they do it like they do -- to be different.) The name of the school is Canadian Nazarene University College. Riley has explained to me why they use both "University" and "College" in the name, but I have accepted that Canadians just think differently than those of us from south of the border. Don't try to understand it, just accept it. In the U.S. a school must be one or the other. In Canada a school may be both at the same time.

Once you have accepted that a school can be a University and a College at the same time, then you have to figure out which comes first. I always want to say "Canadian Nazarene College University", but that is wrong. It is "Canadian Nazarene University College."

Enough to keep you going?

Nelson Bradford
4th May 2006, 01:07 PM (13:07)
thanx

However, I've been informed I should continue as the village idiot for I do it so well. It may, in fact, be one of my best spiritual gifts.

:)

-neb

Barb Bouldrey
4th May 2006, 02:21 PM (14:21)
Nelson,

That is a great picture of you. I have heard how you and one other guy keep your Sunday School class entertained.

Barb

Barbara Moulton
4th May 2006, 06:53 PM (18:53)
In Canada, they have a way of naming schools that is different from the U.S. (Perhaps that is why they do it like they do -- to be different.) The name of the school is Canadian Nazarene University College. Riley has explained to me why they use both "University" and "College" in the name, but I have accepted that Canadians just think differently than those of us from south of the border. Don't try to understand it, just accept it. In the U.S. a school must be one or the other. In Canada a school may be both at the same time.




Yep...that's it. We designed our whole higher learning system specifically to be different from the US. In fact, that's part of the founding documents of all institutions of higher learning: "We are different". :)

The truth is, for the most parts, Universities are universities and colleges are colleges in Canada. NUC took both names in 1999, not because it is common in Canada but because they wanted to reflect its new degree granting status. I found it confusing then and I find it confusing now.

Marg Webb
4th May 2006, 07:42 PM (19:42)
Dave, Is there nothing that you do not know.
You amaze me. Are you in a
Africa now.??
Marg.

Marg Shurtliff
5th May 2006, 01:36 AM (01:36)
I'm with you , Barbara . I still can't quite see why both names are necessary . The Canadian part is dropped often to NUC . I went there when it was Canadian Nazarene College ( CNC ) so I figure if they can leave out the Canadian so much I can leave out the University . Makes me quite happy .By the way , I went there when Riley was also a student and his brother , Bill ,became out pastor in Ottawa just after I first started college (Sept '67) . Bill and Karen arrived that fall in Ottawa .

Gord Evans
5th May 2006, 02:43 AM (02:43)
I have the wonderful privilege of transporting Dr Coulter and his wife from ONU to OHare Sat afternoon.

Can any NazNetter fill me in on him?

Is he the brother of one of our former GS? And what was that brother's first name?

What's the deal on our Canadian school name? University AND College both in the name?

HURRY!

I need as much information as possible asap so I can soak it all in and not appear to be the village idiot that I are at times.

Thanx
-neb

ps - Isn't God good?!

Dr. Riley Coulter is president of Canadian Nazarene University College (CNUC), or NUC for short. Although its roots and heritage date back to 1921, the school was called CNC (Canadian Nazarene College) from 1940 until 1999, when it achieved degree-granting status and also achieved the ability to be called a university. To reflect this new status, the name was changed at that time to CNUC (Canadian Nazarene University College), although it is known simply as NUC (Nazarene University College).

NUC has forged a loose partnership with Alliance University College to provide a wonderful new campus and expanded course offerings in Calgary. This symbiotic joint venture also includes "Canadian Bible College" and "Canadian Theological Seminary". Together, these two private universities are referred to as AUC-NUC.

Here's the website: [http://www.auc-nuc.ca/]

I have attached a fairly recent photo of Dr. Coulter to help you identify him, Nelson. This photo was taken last year by Dave McClung.

Dr. Coulter has been president of the school for as long as I've been associated with the CotN, so at least 13 years, but likely much longer. Marg Shurtliff probably knows when Riley became president of the college. He is a charming, witty/funny and gracious man with an easy smile, and a love for NUC. He travels a lot each year, attending the District Assemblies for each of Canada's five Districts as well as many other church and educational functions of the international church. He has had a tremendous influence on the growing success and evolution of NUC.

Nelson Bradford
5th May 2006, 07:29 AM (07:29)
once again you've come through!
-neb

Peter Teolis
5th May 2006, 07:38 AM (07:38)
Don't forget Riley's son, Mark. He is the Pastor of the Ferris Lane Community Church in Barrie, Ontario. He attended NUC (of course!) and is married to his lovely wife Brenda. I had the privilege of being part of his flock for my brief visit to Barrie for 11 months a few years back. :basic05

Oh and Nelson, his name only has 1 'Y' in it. :o

Nelson Bradford
6th May 2006, 05:58 AM (05:58)
I'll do my best to call him RILEY and not RYLEY then.
:)
thanx
-neb

Dave McClung
6th May 2006, 10:54 AM (10:54)
Dave, Is there nothing that you do not know.
You amaze me. Are you in a Africa now.??
Marg.

Marg.

Your question reminded me of when our son, Dennis, was a little boy. He would ask me, "Dad, do you know everything." I would reply, "No, Denny, I don't know everything, but I sure am smart."

Actually, Riley has been a friend for a long time. Linda and I made a contribution to NUC during the time it was trying to achieve University status. I remember the surprise. Our gift was in US dollars and when it was converted to Canadian dollars, it sounded like a lot more.

We have not yet left for Africa, but are leaving soon.

Norayr Hajian
6th May 2006, 10:59 AM (10:59)
The truth is, for the most parts, Universities are universities and colleges are colleges in Canada. NUC took both names in 1999, not because it is common in Canada but because they wanted to reflect its new degree granting status. I found it confusing then and I find it confusing now.

I think the whole "university-college" thing is an Alberta thing, but I could be wrong. At least, I've only heard of it in Alberta.

Dr. Coulter was the pastor of the Victoria First Church of the Nazarene (Vancouver Island) before he became president of the school.

Peter Teolis
8th May 2006, 01:34 PM (13:34)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term university college is used in a number of countries to denote institutions that provide tertiary education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_education) but do not have full or independent university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University) status. Precise usage varies between countries.

Further More...

In Canada, "university college" has three meanings: a degree-granting institution; an institution that offers university-level coursework; or a University of Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College%2C_University_of_Toronto) college.
"University college" can refer to institutions that offer both college diplomas and undergraduate degrees. In British Columbia, many university colleges serve as both universities and vocational or technical colleges; some grant graduate degrees and operate research programs and institutes.
The title "university college" is extensively used by institutions that do not have full university status, but which do extensive teaching at degree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_degree) level. The title "university" is protected by federal law in Canada, but the title "college" is only regulated in some Canadian provinces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_province). Some Canadian university colleges are public institutions, some are private; some are regulated by government agencies, others are not. Information about the status of particular institutions can be found at the CICIC web site listed below. Institutions that are members of the Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Universities_and_Colleges_of_Canada ) (AUCC) can be generally be accepted as providing university-level programs.
"University College" is also the name of a Canadian educational institution. University College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College%2C_University_of_Toronto) is the name of a constituent college of the University of Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Toronto).

For those that are still wondering...:basic05