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Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 07:25 PM (19:25)
foot of street lantern on market place of
Bad Gandersheim, Lower Saxony, Germany

Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 07:28 PM (19:28)
head of street lantern on market place of
Bad Gandersheim, Lower Saxony, Germany

Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 07:55 PM (19:55)
thumbnail street lantern on market place of
Bad Gandersheim, Lower Saxony, Germany

Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 08:12 PM (20:12)
original street lantern on market place of
Bad Gandersheim, Lower Saxony, Germany

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http://haufenzeug.de/cs/pics_for_NazNet/laternem.jpg

That picture will show Ruth somewhere hidden by the anonyme folk masses - but - where?

Gina Stevenson
1st June 2006, 08:14 PM (20:14)
thumbnail street lantern on market place of
Bad Gandersheim, Lower Saxony, Germany
Looks like you're telling us Ruth is "the light of your life" ... you know that song, don't you that starts out, "You Light Up My Life?" This last pic looks more like it's about Ruth than the streetlamp, so I thought this was what you were saying, eh Carsten? Show this thread to Ruth ... perhaps she'll appreciate it. Nice smile on her face, too. ;)

OK, guess this should say next-to-the-last picture, rather than last picture, because while I was writing this, you added yet another picture, so I had to come back to edit this. ;)

Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 08:51 PM (20:51)
Looks like you're telling us Ruth is ...Oha - have you found her?

You Light Up My LifeYOU BRIGHT UP MY LIFE
Yes, she does.
She has choosen me to light up my life. I never can understand. But she did her choice. Once it was a mistake, she has no second chance - life is gone already to a big part.

This last pic looks more like it's about Ruth than the streetlamp, ...Oh, yes, indeed!
Now you are saying it -

... so I thought this was what you were saying, eh Carsten?No, Mylady, absolutely NOT. I am totally innocent. No idea.

Show this thread to Ruth ... perhaps she'll appreciate it.I am afraid, then she will hang me up on that lantern.

Nice smile on her face, too. ;)Really! Now you are saying it -

OK, guess this should say next-to-the-last picture, rather than last picture, because while I was writing this, you added yet another picture, so I had to come back to edit this. ;)It will break my heart - excuse me thousand times!

Thank you for your kind help to show me this and that - and for your friendly comment.
Be blessed!


- äh - my Avatar?
My beard (it's really me) - to shock Brenda - she will meet me on Sunday and now she knows what wild teddy bear to await.
http://haufenzeug.de/cs/pics_for_NazNet/bart.jpg

Rosalie Ross
1st June 2006, 09:57 PM (21:57)
Funny, Carsaten, funny thread, but i really love thoses pictures. Makes me want to go to Germany. Afterall that is where my folks came from...way back there. Looks like the weather was good. Interesting and fun post. :basic01 God bless you both. Rosalie

Carsten Schermuly
1st June 2006, 10:11 PM (22:11)
Funny, Carsaten, funny thread, but i really love thoses pictures.Yes, a bit fun from time to time everybody likes.

Makes me want to go to Germany.In case you do, I will try to meet you. Unto today I only met Dave as the only one NazNetter, meetings with **GC** and Barb Bouldry have been planned, but I had no car. That had hurt me. Now I meet Brenda. A real joy.

Afterall that is where my folks came from...way back there.Here? Southern Lower Saxony? Do you have location names? I could go and take photos.

Looks like the weather was good.An exception. This year the entire May was cold and rainy.

Interesting and fun post. :basic01 God bless you both. RosalieThank you! Be also blessed!

BobHunt
3rd June 2006, 09:57 PM (21:57)
I can remember smelling the odors of kerosene, as Dad would take the lantern down and light the wick. Sometimes he would trim the wick, or else it would smoke up the glass chimney so that you could not see the flame of light.
I also can remember times at our house when the power would go out and Mom would take down the glass keosene lamp, and Dad would wipe off the inside of the chimney, and then light the wick. The flame seemed to make the shadows dance in the walls, and through the dim light, the room seemed to take on a different perspective.
There have been other times after I married, that our power would go off and wife would light a candle or two. If you lit that candle when the power and lights were on, you would hardly notice it. But when the candle is ALL the light you have, then it is so bright!
Sometimes we as Christian people live in a very dark world, a sick world, a world that is hurtling down the road to perdition at break neck speed. One life-one candle that is lived a righteous way can be a great light to others and cause them to pause, to reflect on what they are doing!
Someone has defined real Christianity by saying it is someone who does right, even when there is no one around him that knows him.

Carsten Schermuly
3rd June 2006, 10:41 PM (22:41)
I can remember smelling the odors of kerosene, as Dad would take the lantern down and light the wick. Sometimes he would trim the wick, or else it would smoke up the glass chimney so that you could not see the flame of light.

... and so on ...Yes, such lanps I also can remember to. Germany got elictric light totally between the both wars - from 1918 to 1936. I could be wrong, but I think, it was 1936 once the last village got connection to electric networks. But I have seen still such lamps as a boy. Once the glass became black, the flame looked dark red - brown.

We have held broken glass over candles to make it black (parents have not watched us - we have done on very quiet places - it was not allowed to play with fire) - and then we watched the sun. It was dangerous for the eyes - but I have never heard, one of us naughties carried any negative consequences.

We learned that from our grandmother. She did it to watch with us children solar eclipses.

In 1999 I did that with double foil, covered on one side by aluminium (only one foil layer was not enaugh) for my family. We had fun.
WikiPedia - solar eclipse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse
see a nice made animation on the german talking page
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonnenfinsternis

The sun, watched through black glass, coloured by a candle flame, looked dark red - brown like the lamps flame though the black glass zylinder or glass hood.

I am not sure, as I can remember, it must have been Charles Dickens, described such lamp scene like you, but I can no more remember what story it was - he wrote so many good stories. As a boy I have read alot from him.

The street lantern of my hometown Göttingen have burnt gas, made from black stone coal. On end of the pipe have been a ventile and once in mornings the gas pressure sunk because a main ventile was closed somewhere in the pipe system, this end - ventiles closed the pipe and the lamp was off. Sometimes such end - ventile did not work correctly and a single lamp has burnt during the day. Then came a worker in uniform on a bycicle, behind the seat upright a short ladder in a stand byside the back wheel, entered the lamp ans worked on that ventile. The gentleman, had this job to do for our street, was very kind to children and showed us what he did - I remember to his smiling face unto today.

We know modern petro - gas lantern as camping lanterns, e. g. as tent - heater and lighter, burning gas, built under air pressure from light floating petro - oil (I know as Petroleum). The lightning element is a small textile socket, looking like two third of an hen egg (or smaller). As long this textile is not heated, it is soft and flexible. After first times heated, it is stiff and very fragile. touching it by finger, it gets an hole. Suck textile sockets have been in that old gas street lanterns. They must be renewed about one to two times a year.
Today Göttingen has electric lanterns like all towns got.

This Bad Gandersheim market place lantern has an electric bulbe with 230 Volts (the same value like in households) and 500 Watts.

The most electric street trains of Germanys towns will get 750 Volts - I remember to warning plates in Bremen, Munich and Berlin.


Good old times, golden memories

Carsten Schermuly
3rd June 2006, 10:54 PM (22:54)
Only five percents of energy generates light, the other 95 percents are generating temperature - in traditional light bulbs. To better this is experienced with different sords of gases.
To have light needs to waste 95 percents of energy!
We do not realize what this means because we can not see temperatures.

Gina Stevenson
3rd June 2006, 11:12 PM (23:12)
Some of the newer bulbs [or perhaps even older neons] put out a lot of light with not quite so much heat as the older conventional bulbs. For instance, can hardly believe that this full-spectrum lamp I found last Thanksgiving Friday [for just $20 ... waaay on sale] has two light settings: Low is something like 14watts, and high 27watts. You get sooo much light, when one is used to conventional lighting, it's hard to believe that it's only taking those few watts! ;)

Carsten Schermuly
3rd June 2006, 11:12 PM (23:12)
What means that - world goes down - faster and faster? Jesus comes back soon. The day of his appearence comes nearer faster and faster, according to the speed of world destruction.

Carsten Schermuly
3rd June 2006, 11:17 PM (23:17)
tip of top are leds - the little green lamps on computer frontsides, e. g. on CD ROMs or floppy drives.

They are as strong like a tradotional bulb by about 40 Watts and will work about five million hours before they will break. Because the awaited long life time, today nobody knows how long they really will work. Since the expansive production methods, such led - lamps will cost around 500 US Dollars each.

Gina Stevenson
3rd June 2006, 11:32 PM (23:32)
Since the expansive production methods, such led - lamps will cost around 500 US Dollars each.

No $500 bulbs here; the full light spectrum bulbs can be replaced for something like $14-15. Not too bad, when they last forever [we hear, & are still on the one that came with it last November], and save a lot of electricity, too. For instance, the 14watt setting gives about 75-100 watts of light, it seems; and the 27watt setting yet more. Neat lamp; I like it! [like sunlight when the suns not shining outside ... well, we know it's there, right? but when it's not visible due to very common cloud coverage here in MI.]

Carsten Schermuly
4th June 2006, 12:00 AM (00:00)
The sord, I have seen last week in TV is today not on market - a brand new tec. Yes, I know, leds are used already for a longer time as lamps - e. g. see red brake lights in end of cars or bycicle lamps. This new sord should cost, "up to 800 Euro" (wordly) - but wait only one year - and the price will sink to near its half.

Carsten Schermuly
4th June 2006, 12:03 AM (00:03)
Do you know leds? Singular LED
Some are tiny like a match head. I do not mean the Neon or Halogene lamps - I mean LEDs.

Gina Stevenson
4th June 2006, 12:14 AM (00:14)
Do you know leds? Singular LED
Some are tiny like a match head. I do not mean the Neon or Halogene lamps - I mean LEDs.

'Realized you were talking LED ... but those aren't all that bright. They work, so you can read your LED alarm, etc ... and those little computer lights are definitely visible. Anyway, back to my lamp ;) ... the one I got is black, looks just like the tan one that one sees in ads for them [for a much higher price than $20 ... $50, 80, on up]. 'Seems to do the same thing, so .................. full spectrum, at least should be, full spectrum, huh?

Edith K. Thurmond
4th June 2006, 09:18 AM (09:18)
No $500 bulbs here; the full light spectrum bulbs can be replaced for something like $14-15. Not too bad, when they last forever [we hear, & are still on the one that came with it last November

Interesting topic, Gina and Carsten. Since 1985, I have had full-spectrum lighting in our homes - total coverage, so to speak. When moving to TX, I had the Duro-Test lighting representative come to our house and replace every bulb in the entire house. That house had very tall ceilings and LOTS of can lights. The cost (at that time) was $18 per bulb which I gladly paid since I knew the value of the lights to human health. Also, that true lighting is much easier to use on a day-to-day basis. Now, for the REAL cost of the bulbs: when I moved from that home 10 years later, not one single bulb had been replaced. I can testify that they last at least 10 years without any replacements with normal household use. Since most of those Dallas homes had tall ceilings and numerous can lights, my friends were constantly having to replace light bulbs using a special device on a long pole to accomplish the task.

Full-spectrum lighting is great for one's over-all general health and very kind to the eyes. The home looks prettier, too, as that yellowish cast is not present. Jewelry stores (and others) know the value of presenting their merchandise in true lighting. Full-spectrum lighting is highly recommended! You might find the pioneering studies done by Dr. John Ott very interesting. In those early days, Dr. Richard Wurtman, a colleague of Dr. Ott's at MIT aided him in that research. As with many scientists and researchers, Dr. Ott was not a good businessman and others came, almost like prey, and took the monetary benefits that really should have been his. He is the man who did all the research and enabled us to have those wonderful lights. Also, the Swedish people have been "into" full-spectrum lighting for many years since they have many 'grey days' in their country. Swedes are practical people and installing full-spectrum lights is a "no-brainer" for them.

Glad you are having a good experience with your new light, Gina. May it last many years!

Blessings,

Gina Stevenson
4th June 2006, 12:51 PM (12:51)
Yes, I love it -- my full spectrum lamp, that is! Hearing that $18 years ago, and how I got a replacement for $15 -- not knowing if I'd find them again, or how much they'd be, or how long they would last -- looks like I didn't need to pick up a replacement just months after getting it!

Perhaps the difference in price all these years later is the way some things come down, with more common usage? Perhaps more people have heard, and use them, so one can go to Menards, or wherever, and find them less than $18 so many years later because of that, eh?

Anyway, I'd not thought of using them everywhere, but if I ever get a place of my own, I think I'd do that ... it' s so nice in this room [bedroom, etc, etc] with that light on, compared to regular lighting. 'Looks different, for sure.

Carsten Schermuly
7th June 2006, 12:22 AM (00:22)
Back to the LEDs - truely, they are weak, but I saw in TV a new generation (as I said, not on market today) with a much stronger light.

What Edith told about light, I have read about just a tiny bit - not in sight of a healthy light, in sight of health in general. Do develop the right mix of hormones (partially under help of Vitamine D), we need bright daylight in days and real darkness in nights. Parents like to stick small weak lamps in plugs of children rooms to give the room a weak diffuse light. Once the little children are awaking in middle of the night, they should be protected not to develop fears - lonely in the darkness. This is wrong. We need in nights strictly darkness for a better health - changing with bright daylight (natural light, not light like inside workplaces, offices or libraries etc). As a nice sideeffect, skin is much healthier, for example, not so many warts - and does look healthier.


Correcture
What alternate? Let children share their parents bed unto a time point they did grow up too much, let me say, their third or fourth birthday - or later. It needs to be sensitive in this very individual question - every child is another personality with different needings. We did. As babies our children have found mothers breasts when ever they liked and could drink - also once Ruth has slept. That helps to develop stronger personalities of the children - will protect against to develop not needed anxiesties and complexes. Especially as babies children need mothers touches, movings voice and smelling. We think in another way - as a consequence of our culture "Children room" - but this is much, much better - let babies sleep in mothers arms.

Seven children - over many years never lonely with Ruth in bed? Yes. As long the babies are babies, they do not realize what their parents do - there is no risk to create any critical idea, seen on sexuality.

Edith K. Thurmond
7th June 2006, 12:31 AM (00:31)
What Edith told about light, I have read about just a tiny bit - not in sight of a healthy light, in sight of health in general. Do develop the right mix of hormones (partially under help of Vitamine D), we need bright daylight in days and real darkness in nights. Parents like to stick small weak lamps in plugs of children rooms to give the room a weak diffuse light. Once the little children are awaking in middle of the night, they should be protected not to develop fears - lonely in the darkness. This is wrong. We need in nights strictly darkness for a better health - changing with bright daylight (natural light, not light like inside workplaces, offices or libraries etc). As a nice sideeffect, skin is much healthier, for example, not so many warts - and does look healthier.

You got that right, Carsten! In total darkness, our bodies can manufacture adequate amounts of melatonin which healthy bodies require to function normally. Several of our glands work better during sleep that is in total darkness.

Wishing you great health and wellness,

Edith K. Thurmond
7th June 2006, 12:57 AM (00:57)
Yes, a bit fun from time to time everybody likes.

Some of the most fun I ever had on Naznet was introducing Princess FireEye to Naznet a few years ago. The Princess and I laughed so hard that it hurt. It was a fun mystery and super-sleuth Tom Cook solved it - with you close on his heels. Tom was not to be stumped at all and he solved it without ever having seen a photo or having met the Princess. He later told me that he had considered going into law enforcement detective work before deciding on a ministry vocation. Tom has very good inductive and deductive reasoning skills.

Lots of ways to have fun!

Carsten Schermuly
7th June 2006, 01:07 AM (01:07)
Believe it or not - I saved this photos of Princess FireEye and I already have thought to refresh that joke - but then I thought, it were better to leave it to be done by the "copyright owner" - by you.

Now we have to crack again the riddle - "Who is Pricess FireEye?"

Edith K. Thurmond
7th June 2006, 01:15 AM (01:15)
Believe it or not - I saved this photos of Princess FireEye and I already have thought to refresh that joke - but then I thought, it were better to leave it to be done by the "copyright owner" - by you.

Now we have to crack again the riddle - "Who is Pricess FireEye?"

Do you remember just how much copy I had to write to make that mystery a good thread? It took LOTS of imagination and creativity and it was great fun!

Wonder if anyone could identify her who didn't see the old thread? We shall see! Only inquiring minds would want to know.

Smiles,

Carsten Schermuly
7th June 2006, 06:11 AM (06:11)
You do see, it is hidden under alot of german market place lanterns.
Hit the drum and open a new theme?
"Dead or alive
Most wanted
Who is Princess FireEye?"