It would be interesting

[Jim Franklin]

particularly to this geographer for different members to list all of the places they have lived in order.Mine include the following: Baker City, OR, Plano, Carthage and Watertown, SD, Fargo, ND, Northwest Indiana Campground, Garyton, and Stonebluff, IN, Norris, SD, Chelan, WA, Rufus, OR, Nampa, Id for college, McCall, ID, back to Nampa while my bride finished her undergraduate degree and I taught in the local school system, Moses Lake, and Connell, WA, Moscow, ID for graduate degree, Bethany, OK to teach at BNC, Luther, MT to teach in a two room country school in the mountains, Fromberg, MT then to Boise, ID interupted by 3 years at Sun Valley Indian School in AZ and now back to Boise. Except of these passed 3 years I have been a Boise resident for 29 years.

[Joel Merrill]

Well, I was born in Oskaloosa IA while my folks were attending Vennard College. Dad took his first church in Missoula MT. He was a Free Methodist then, I think. My sister, Mary, was born there. He was there 2 or 3 years and then moved to Guthrie Center IA. My other sister, Sara, was born there. This is the first place I remember. From there he moved to Beaver Dam WI for a couple years. I went to kindergarten there. Then we moved to Spooner WI. That was his first Nazarene Church. I went to first grade there. Then Dad took a very small church in Boscobel WI. That church did not have a parsonage so we had to rent which was a problem. At first we could not find a house we could afford in Boscobel. So we rented a huge farm house near Blue River WI and I started 2nd grade there. Then we rented a house in Boscobel but we were only in it for 4 months and the owner sold it. So we moved to another house on the edge of town. It was a small house and so in about a year we rented a larger one. Then Dad hurt his back and I had a compound fracture to my arm and we didn't have insurance. Dad usually just had minimum wage jobs and the church only paid $15.00 a week. We couldn't afford that house any more. Dad found a farmer who let us live on a second farm he had for free just for taking care of some calves he had on the place and keeping the lawn mowed. I loved that place. I was part way through the 3rd grade when we moved there and I just started 6th grade when we left. From there we moved to Wyoming IA. Dad helped start a Nazarene Church in Maquoketa, 16 miles away, and worked for a Nazarene layman in Wyoming IA. I finished 6th grade and started 7th grade there. Then we moved to Maquoketa IA and rented a house across the street from the junior high. We lived there about a year and a half and it was put up for sale. So my folks bought an old junky mobile home about a mile from town. It wasn't fit to keep chickens in and after a couple years they bought a brand new double wide mobile home and put it on the same spot. I lived there until I graduated high school and left home. After my sisters graduated, my folks sold the place and left too.

When I left home, I moved to Oskaloosa IA, where I was born. (Why I moved there in another story.) At first I rented an up stairs apartment above a pizza restaurant right down town. I had problems with some really bad neighbors in the other apartment and I moved to another apartment building owned by a man in my church. It was an old house that had been converted into apartments. The one I moved into was real small. After a while the up stairs apartment became available and besides being bigger, I loved the apartment, so I took it. I got married while I lived in that apartment. We lived in it for another year. After I got married I needed a better job so I got a job in Pella, which was 16 miles away. At the time the highway there was a narrow 2 lane highway with a lot of traffic. It was a nasty drive in the winter time and it was impossible to pass anyone on that road. So then we rented a house half way to Pella near the town of Leighton IA. We lived there for several years and both of our girls were born while we lived there. Then we got broken into and my wife was afraid to be there alone at night since I worked nights. My wife didn't drive at the time either. So we rented a house in Pella IA for a little over a year. We had a really bad landlord (slumlord). I ran into a Realtor one day and she talked me into looking at some houses. Before we knew it, we bought one just a block away. We've been there ever since. Now that the kids are gone and my wife drives, we would like to live in the country again, but so does everyone else. So we can't afford anything around here unless it is way out in the sticks.

Joel

[Diane Likens]

Big Spring, TX where I was born; somewhere in Germany (Terri might know) where 2 of my brothers were born; then to Illinois where Dad was an Air Force recruiter; Pontiac, Cass City, Caro, Mayville and Flint, MI; a few of the LOOOONNNNGGGEST months of my life in a tiny tornado-blasted little village near Enid, OK; Ft. Sheridan, IL; Fairborn and Dayton, OH; Tampa, St. Petersburg and Gulfport, FL.

[Brian Hammons]

Sciotoville, Ohio 18 years (born & raised)
Mt. Vernon, Ohio 4 years (college years)
Inez, KY 3 years ( first years of teaching)
Morehead, KY 1 year ( grad school and a big mistake)
Kansas City and Mission, KS 3 years ( during seminary years)
Alanson, Michigan 3 years (near Petosky)
Toledo, OH 3 years (and no, it is NOT holy)
Sciotoville, Ohio 4 years ( we always go home when all *&^^ breaks loose)
Ripley, WV 7 years( just celebrated 7th ann. and will be starting year 5 at RHS)

Hmmm, I just lost 2 years in there somewhere. . .maybe its how I rounded off. . . or was it my trial period with the 4400?

[Hans Deventer]

Overschie, Rotterdam, 1957-1964
Dubbeldam, 1964-1981 (my mom still lives in this house)
Krispijn, Dordrecht 1981-1996 (got married in 1981)
Sterrenburg, Dordrecht, 1996-today

[Wanda Van Winkle]

Chanute, Kansas
Grand Prairie, Texas
Chanute, Kansas
El Paso, Texas
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Mustang, Oklahoma
Bethany, Oklahoma
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

[Vivian Cornwell]

Dayton, Ohio
Mishawaka, Indiana
Dayton, Ohio
Union Lake, Michigan
Columbus, Ohio

[Jeremy D. Scott]

It's on my profile, but here it is:

Fulton, NY (1980-1981)
North Olmstead, OH (1981-1984)
Malden, MA (1984-1986)
North Reading, MA (1986-1990)
Windham, NH (1990-2003)
Grandview, MO (2003, for four weeks!)
Kansas City, KS (2003-2006)
Hingham, MA (2006-)

Some of the earlier dates could be wrong. Perhaps my father could correct me. :basic05 I also didn't include college in Quincy, MA from 1999-2003. I was really still a resident of Windham, NH. Guess it could go either way.

[Bob Evans]

Greenville Ohio 1955 - 1957
Toledo Ohio 1957 - 1960
Danville Illinois 1960 -1963
Kankakee Illinois 1963 - 1971
Erie Pennsylvania 1971 - 1973
Boston Mass 1973 - 1977 ENC Years
Endicott New York 1977 - 1978
Kansas City Missouri 1978 - 1981 Seminary Years
Jackson Michigan 1981 - 1983
Clarksville Michigan 1983 - 1986
St Charles Illinois 1986 - 1990
Grand Rapids Michigan 1990 - Current

[Dennis M. Scott]

Kankakee, IL (1949)
Bradley, IL (1950-1960)
Huntington, WV (1961-1962)
Proctorville, OH (1963-1968)
Mt. Vernon, OH (1969-1970)
Wollaston, MA (1971-1972)
Kansas City, MO (1973)
Raytown, MO (1974-1976)
Syracuse, NY 1977-1978)
Fulton, NY (1979-1981)
North Olmstead, OH (1981-1984)
Malden, MA (1984-1986)
North Reading, MA (1986-1990)
Windham, NH (1990-2006)

[Doris Grant]

Sistersville, WV

I was born here, reared here, married here, bore my children here and will die here.

Doris

[Hans Deventer]

Windham, NH (1990-2006)

I can understand why you have been staying there the longest. :basic03

[Cindi Hammons]

Mine is really rather boring.

Columbus, Ohio (1966-1984)
Mt. Vernon, Ohio (1984-1988)--College
Columbus, Ohio (1988-1989)
Wheelersburg, Ohio (1989)
Ironton, Ohio (1989-1990)
Sciotoville, Ohio (1990-1996)
Minford (Muletown), Ohio (1996-Present)

No plans to move out of this community at this point.

Cindi H.

[Ron Davis]

Golden City MO 1956-1962
Lockwood, MO 1963-1980
Carthage MO 1981-1987
Oxford MS 1988-1990
El Dorado AR 1990-1994
Republic MO 1994-present

[Brad Mercer]

Gary, Indiana -- June/August 1956
Highwood, Illlinois -- August 1956/June 1957
North Little Rock, Arkansas -- June 1957/October 1964
Fordyce, Arkansas -- October 1964/July 1967
Bethany, Oklahoma -- August 1967/May 1969
Waurika, Oklahoma -- May 1969/December 1970
Antlers, Oklahoma -- December 1970/February 1973
Sinton, Texas -- February 1973/July 1975
Odessa, Texas -- July 1975/January 1976
Bethany, Oklahoma -- January 1976/June 1980
Jonesboro, Arkansas -- June 1980/August 1981
Tucson, Arizona -- August 1981/June 1982
Phoenix, Arizona -- June 1982/August 1983
Dallas, Texas -- August 1983/April 1986
Garland, Texas -- April 1986/April 1999
Frisco, Texas -- April 1999/February 2006


Living with friends and relatives since then while awaiting visa approval, in which case we'll move to Australia, or visa disapproval, in which case I'll probably take a job in Austin, Texas or a job in Phoenix, Arizona.

[Bruce Carriker]

Let's just do my adult life:

1975-1979 Kirksville, MO (college)
1980 Fort Benning, GA
1980-1983 Germany
1983-1984 Fort Benning, GA
1984-1986 Fort Riley, KS
1986-1987 Germany
1987-90 Fort Riley, KS
1990-1998 Fort Leavenworth, KS
1998 Olathe, KS
1999-2001 Clearview City, KS
2002-2003 Roxana, Illinois
2003-2006 Kansas City, MO (summers in Fulton Co, PA)

[Hans Deventer]

Gracious, you guys do move around a lot! Now for pastors, I can understand. But why do the others move so often? I can't imagine none of you can't hold a job :basic02

[Brad Mercer]

Well, of course, the U.S. is historically a very mobile society. My dad was drafted into the army just before I was born. My mother went to Gary, Indiana to be with him for my birth, then they moved to Highwood, Illinois, just across the state line from Gary. Daddy got out of the army when I was a year old and we moved back to Arkansas, which was their (and really my) home state. Then in 1964, Daddy took his first pastorate. My other towns were Daddy's pastorates, except for my first Bethany stay, which was while he was studying at SNU for ordination. My second stay in Bethany was after I left home for the last time, and was a student at SNU. Jonesboro, Arkansas and Tucson, Arizona were for my graduate school time at Arkansas State University and University of Arizona. Phoenix was for a job when my graduate assistantship at UofA wasn't renewed and I couldn't afford to stay in school without it. Dallas was to settle down and make a life. Garland and Frisco are just suburbs of Dallas. We moved from an apartment in Dallas to our first (and second, nicer) homes in Garland, and then moved to Frisco to help start the church, NewStart-Frisco.

Brad

Gracious, you guys do move around a lot! Now for pastors, I can understand. But why do the others move so often? I can't imagine none of you can't hold a job :basic02

[Barbara Moulton]

I don't know all the exact dates but here is the order.

There are a few "repeats" on the list.

Huntsville, ON (where I was born)
Toronto, ON
Liverpool, NS
North Sydney, NS
Dartmouth, NS
Winnipeg, MB
Hamilton, ON
Orangeville, ON (serving as lay pastoral assistant)
Toronto, ON (College)
Montreal, QC (first church I pastored)
Ajax, ON (second Church I pastroed)
Uxbridge, ON (etc.)
Toronto, ON (after I married Carl)
Ajax, ON (pastored with Carl)
Toronto, ON (pastored with Carl)
Kingston, ON (etc.)
Meaford, ON (when we became Nazarenes)
Toronto, ON
Orangeville, ON (been here six years now as Wesleyans)

[Charlene Clevenger]

1958-1961 Berkely, California
1961-1973 San Pablo, California
1972-1974 Castro Valley, California
1974-1976 Neillsville, Wisconsin (My Dad's company was bought out. Culture shock!)
1976-1980 summers & holidays in Stoughton, Wisconsin (my parents moved here just after I started college)
1976-1980 Boubonnais, Illinois (Olivet Nazarene College [now University])
1980-1981 Portage, Wisconsin (first married couple apartment, over a dress shop downtown)
1981-1986 Dubuque, Iowa
1986-1987 Schofield, Wisconsin
1987-1994 Fort Wayne, Indiana (3 different apartments)
1994-present New Haven, Indiana (the first house we bought)

[Dana Grant]

Huntington, West Virginia (1957)
Covington, Kentucky
Marshalltown, Iowa (1961)
Hinton, West Virginia (1962)
Beckley, West Virginia (1963 - 1977)
Tucson, Arizona (1977 - 1986)
Jackson, Tennessee (1986-1987)
Tucson, Arizona (1987 - present)

I don't know all of the dates, but these are close.

[Gary Swartzlander]

Born in Toledo Hospital, Toledo, Ohio
Liberty Center, Ohio
Monclova, Ohio
Gatlinburg, TN
Whitehouse, OH
Monclova, OH (back to home we had originally live in)
Adrian, Michigan
St. Petersburg, Florida
Adrian, Michigan
Jackson, Michigan

[LoraineStanton]

I was born in Grand Rapids Michigan, February 1958
No idea until June 1958
Addison, Michigan June 1958 - August 1962
Tecumseh, Michigan August 1962 - 1983
Spring Arbor College September 1976 - September 1980
Western Michigan University (Kalamazoo)September 1982 -May 1983
VA Hospital West Haven CT Summer 1983 (MA internship)
Bangor, Maine Fall 1983 - Christmas 1986
Adrian, Michigan Christms 1986 - August 1987 (my parents home)
Plymouth, Michigan August 1987 - til now

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Won't give the years, but how about this:

Indianapolis, IN
Nabb, IN
Bourbonais, IL
Phoenix, AZ
Stafford, AZ
Willcox, AZ
Graham, TX
Weslaco, TX
San Antonio, TX
Killeen, TX
Bethany, OK
Vivian, LA
Borger, TX
Alvin, TX

Anybody ever been to Nabb, Indiana?

[Anne and Dwayne Hood]

Born in Pineville, N.C.
Fort Mill, S.C.
Rock Hill, S.C.
Charleston, S.C.
Kingsport, TN.
Rock Hill, S.C.
Kingsport, TN.
Church Hill, TN.
Kingsport, TN.
Nashville, TN.
Athens, TN.
South Haven, Miss.
Memphis, TN.
Brighton, Tn. (out of city limits in Tipton County.)
Atoka, Tn. (out of city limits in Tipton County)

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Looking through the various journies, it seems that the only cities I have in common with what people have listed are the two Nazarene colleges I have lived near, Bethany and Olivet. In light of all the places listed, one would think that there would be more connections than that.

[Marsha Gupton]

Nashville, TN

[Barb Bouldrey]

Tiffin, Ohio
Marion, Ohio
Galion, Ohio
Tiffin, Ohio
ONU from 1965-70
Gibson City, IL
Daville, IL Westside
Hannibal, MO Riverview
Bernie, MO(7 yr)
Iberia, MO (15 yr)
Sikeston, MO (starting 7th year)

Retiring to Tiffin,Ohio in about 13 years.

Barb

[Dennis M. Scott]

Nashville, TN

Boring? I guess if you find someplace you like, stay there. :)

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Nashville, TN

How about "stable."

[Christine Josephson]

Born in Oneida New York
Lynwood California
Compton, California
Bethany, Oklahoma
Downey, California
Bellflower, California
Naples, Italy
Long Beach, California
Sidney, Montana

[Glenn Harris]

Before I was an adult we moved around a lot. While I lived in Kansas City the first 15 years of my life it was in several different houses. As a teenager we moved every year, back and forth between two cities in Kansas but because they were both in the same school district I went to the same high school from start to finish. The moving set a pattern that seems to have followed me into adulthood. In the military we were transferred around a lot so it just continued. What is so funny is that my wife, on the other hand, has her mother still living in the same house they owned when Donna was born so she never moved prior to getting married but she seems to have caught the bug from me. (-:

Kansas City Missouri (1955 - 1969)
Fairway Kansas (1969 - 1970)
Prairie Village Kansas (1970 - 1971)
Fairway Kansas (1971 -1972)
Prairie Village Kansas (1972 - 1973)
Fairway Kansas (1973 - 1974)
San Diego California (1974) (Joined the Navy in August of 1974)
Groton Connecticut (1974 - 1975) (Got Married in December of 1974, while stationed in Connecticut)
Virginia Beach Virginia (1975 - 1976)
Vallejo California (1976)
Honolulu Hawaii (1977 - 1979)
Virginia Beach Virginia (1979 - 1980)
Norfolk Virginia (1980 - 1981)
Virginia Beach Virginia (1981 -1983)
Kansas City Missouri (1983 - 1994) (Left the military in March of 1983)
Orange Park Florida (1994 - 1998)
Omaha Nebraska (1998 - 1999)
Waterloo Nebraska (1999 - 2005)
Fort Mill South Carolina (2005 - Present)

[Stan Hall]

Okay, here's my list:
Winfield, Kansas - 1948
Hays, Kansas - 1949
Hebron, Nebraska - 1950
Wahoo, Nebraska - 1957
San German, Puerto Rico - 1962
Lincoln, Nebraska - 1967
Shawnee, Kansas - 1969
Gardner, Kansas - 1970
West Seneca (Buffalo), New York - 1971
Raytown, Missouri - 1972
... Still in Raytown.

[Jim Franklin]

Hans, it appears that many NazNetters are "movers and shakers." We start shaking when we find out we need to move "AGAIN."

[Jim Franklin]

Scott, Nabb must be about the size of Carthage, SD at the time population about 400, or Stonebluff, IN, pop. 125, or Norris, SD, pop 48 whites and 100 Lakota Sioux on the Rosebud Reservation, or Luther, MT, pop. according to the state highway map, 10 but there was more than 10 in one family and there really were about 15 others in the crossroads settlement.

[Gina Stevenson]

Oh, my goodness. Let's see how long the list gets re cities where I've lived ... not necessarliy in order, since sometimes it was leaving, returning, etc.

Grand Rapids, MI
Lamont, MI
Wyoming, MI
Bourbonnais, IL
Peotone, IL
Kentwood, MI
Marne, MI
Hudsonville, MI
Waterford, MI
Southfield, MI
Plymouth, MI {oops! forgot a short stint in Garden City}
SE side of Dallas, TX {forgot name of place; short while, before ...}
Irving, TX
Friendswood, TX {SE of Houston}
Anaheim, CA {awhile before ending up in Costa Mesa, where I loved it!}
Costa Mesa, CA {oops! short stint in Santa Ana, prior to Costa Mesa}
Phoenix, AZ

[let's see ... looks like 19 different cities]

Now that I'm back in Wyoming, MI, would love to return to warmer winter weather sometime in the future .......................

[Hans Deventer]

Hans, it appears that many NazNetters are "movers and shakers." We start shaking when we find out we need to move "AGAIN."

:basic05

So would I! I most certainly DON'T like moving!

[Dana Grant]

:basic05

So would I! I most certainly DON'T like moving!

I certainly agree!! I love my home and never want to leave here.....so we're staying put unless the Lord directs us somewhere else!!

[Wanda Van Winkle]

Gracious, you guys do move around a lot! Now for pastors, I can understand. But why do the others move so often? I can't imagine none of you can't hold a job :basic02

I'm not sure about moving a lot. Many involve college days and most people seem to move away from home to go to college. I actually noticed most of the ones who put dates in their posts have been settled in the last place for many years. Perhaps the earlier years were single life, married and finding better jobs/places to live, and finally settling down where the kids could grow up.

Perhaps this is easier:

Chanute, Kansas 1957-83
(I was only in Grand Prairie two months)

El Paso and Albuquerque 83-84 (nine months)

Oklahoma City area 84 - present

(Mustang, Bethany & OKC were just moves from rentals into our current purchased home)

So I've been in this area for 22 years.

[Gina Stevenson]

... there might not have been so much moving, probably wouldn't have, if two things were different:

(1) the railroad didn't let seniority rule, even in their offices, not just out in their yards, and

(2) had "back home" been a warmer climate!!

Believe that once I can get back to some warmer climate than MI, I might just stay put in the same area for a good long time. ;)


I'm not sure about moving a lot. Many involve college days and most people seem to move away from home to go to college. I actually noticed most of the ones who put dates in their posts have been settled in the last place for many years. Perhaps the earlier years were single life, married and finding better jobs/places to live, and finally settling down where the kids could grow up.

Perhaps this is easier:

Chanute, Kansas 1957-83
(I was only in Grand Prairie two months)

El Paso and Albuquerque 83-84 (nine months)

Oklahoma City area 84 - present

(Mustang, Bethany & OKC were just moves from rentals into our current purchased home)

So I've been in this area for 22 years.

[Paul Danner]

Paris, Ill.
Bourbonnais, Ill.
Rhinelander, Wis
Clam Falls, Wis.
Mattoon, Wis
Merrill, Wis.
Bourbonnais, Ill.
Frankclay, Mo.
Thaxton, Ms.
Houston, Ms.
Anadarko, Ok.
Pawhuska, Ok.
Hutchinson, Ks.
Andover, Ks (Just outside of Wichita)


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[Marsha Lynn]

Anybody ever been to Nabb, Indiana?

Even I haven't been to Nabb, Indiana, and I've been about everywhere in Indiana.

My list is pretty short.


Shipshewana, Indiana 1958-1975 (except for two or three school years when I was a preschooler in Logansport, Indiana where my folks rented housing during the school year while my dad was teaching there but went back "home" in the summer)
Bourbonnais, Illinois 1975-1977 (Olivet)
Angola, Indiana 1977-1979 (Tri-State College)
Odon, Indiana 1979-present (26 years on the same five acres)


Marsha

[Mark Bolerjack]

My list is short, too.

Grandview, MO 7 years 1955-1962 while Dad was in seminary
Falls City, NE 4 years 1962-1966
Fort Worth TX 10 years 1966-1976
Bethany, OK 1973-1977 at BNC
Oklahoma City area 1977-1996
Atoka, OK 2 years + 1996-1998
Charleston, MO 2 years + 1998-2000
Oklahoma City, OK 6 years so far 2000-present

Fort Worth will always be "home" for me.
I loved the Charleston area - miss it a lot.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Even I haven't been to Nabb, Indiana, and I've been about everywhere in Indiana.

What's bad is that we didn't even live in Nabb. It was "town" for us! However, it is very easy to pick out the exact place where I was raised. It is where Clark, Jefferson, and Scott counties meet. Our farm house was in Clark County, but it sat just across the road from the Scott/Jefferson county sign. These days the house is gone (it was 140 years old when I was a kid), but the location can always be found by the county sign!

[Gina Stevenson]

Paul, welcome to NazNet ... your name sounds so familiar. Did you and your wife attend Manteno Naz for awhile? Seems I recall some Paul Danner & Sue(?) Danner from the time I was at ONC/U & attended Manteno Naz.

Paris, Ill.
Bourbonnais, Ill.
Rhinelander, Wis
Clam Falls, Wis.
Mattoon, Wis
Merrill, Wis.
Bourbonnais, Ill.
Frankclay, Mo.
Thaxton, Ms.
Houston, Ms.
Anadarko, Ok.
Pawhuska, Ok.
Hutchinson, Ks.
Andover, Ks (Just outside of Wichita)


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[Bob Manley]

Born at Yuma Colorado, 12-14-24
Grand Junction CO area (1926-43)
U.S. Army (1943-45) France, Germany, Austria
Nampa ID (1946-50) NNC
Madison SD (1950-54)
Union MO (1954-58)
Kinnear WY (1958-67)
Nyssa OR (1967-74)
Eagle ID (1974-76)
Nampa ID (1976-present)
expect to go on to heaven from here.


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[Dave McClung]

Lamesa, TX
Cherryvale, KS
Baton Rouge, LA
ElDorado, AR
West Monroe, LA
Bethany, OK
Lake Charles, LA
San Antonio, TX
Laredo, TX
Witchita Falls, TX
Tucson, AZ
Austin, TX (special circumstance)
DaNang, Vietnam
Oson, Korea
Waco, TX
Richardson, TX
Houston, TX
Denver, CO
Silverdale, WA
Gig Harbor, WA
Quincy, MA (special circumstance)

Austin, TX was our "official residence", but we never had a place to live there. When I was in the Air Force, I decided that I wanted to attend Law School in Texas. The difference between "in state" and "out of state" tuition was significant. So, more than a year before I would start Law School, I went to Austin, TX and filed an affidavit in the court records saying, "I am physically present in Austin, TX and hereby select it as my residence." Do to other changes, we never moved to Austin, but it was our official residence.

During the time I served at ENC, we kept our residence in Gig Harbor, but I still think Quincy belongs on the list. We spent a lot more time there than at some of the other places we have lived.