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Dennis M. Scott
March 20th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Many are aware that I occasionally do nuisance beaver trapping for the state. While the animals have to be destroyed, we try to use as many of the body parts as possible. Recently, the market for castoreum has skyrocketted. Traditionally, the perfume industry has driven this industry, but reports now are that it is being used to enhance the flavor of vanilla and raspberry ice cream.
I have become a rather committed mint chocolate chip person.
I believe this information to be true, but thought this might be the best choice of forum.
Diane Likens
March 20th, 2012, 11:50 AM
Um. Yeah. Okay:
http://gentleworld.org/the-gross-truth-about-natural-flavors/
Susan Unger
March 20th, 2012, 11:58 AM
Many are aware that I occasionally do nuisance beaver trapping for the state. While the animals have to be destroyed, we try to use as many of the body parts as possible. Recently, the market for castoreum has skyrocketted. Traditionally, the perfume industry has driven this industry, but reports now are that it is being used to enhance the flavor of vanilla and raspberry ice cream.
I have become a rather committed mint chocolate chip person.
I believe this information to be true, but thought this might be the best choice of forum.Oh, lovely.... But thanks for the heads up.
Dana Grant
March 20th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Well, the medicine I used to take for my diabetes -- Byetta -- is made from the saliva of the gila monster.
:::::::sigh::::::
Susan Unger
March 20th, 2012, 12:37 PM
Well, the medicine I used to take for my diabetes -- Byetta -- is made from the saliva of the gila monster.
:::::::sigh::::::
Makes me wonder what other medicines are like that. How would you find this out?
Diane Likens
March 20th, 2012, 12:52 PM
Makes me wonder what other medicines are like that. How would you find this out?
My momma used to sometimes answer my questions with, "Sweetie, ya just don't wanna know." I'm sure she'd use that line to answer your question, too.
Susan Unger
March 20th, 2012, 01:20 PM
My momma used to sometimes answer my questions with, "Sweetie, ya just don't wanna know." I'm sure she'd use that line to answer your question, too.
Actually, I do. It will continue to propel me to want to be healthy and off all unnecessary medications.
Gina Stevenson
March 20th, 2012, 02:42 PM
So, when they suggest the flavoring is "artificial" rather than real, this is what we get, eh? Have been paying attention to such things after hearing a few years ago how we might not want to know some of the awful things that are used when something says "artificial" rather than natural/real flavorings. Ewwww!
Diane Likens
March 20th, 2012, 05:06 PM
So, when they suggest the flavoring is "artificial" rather than real, this is what we get, eh? Have been paying attention to such things after hearing a few years ago how we might not want to know some of the awful things that are used when something says "artificial" rather than natural/real flavorings. Ewwww!
Actually this is a "natural" flavor. So when you buy something that says "all natural" or "nothing artificial" this might be what you're getting.
Gina Stevenson
March 20th, 2012, 08:00 PM
But Diane! When allegedly raspberry flavored, "natural" should mean raspberry flavor from where it "naturally" comes ... raspberries ... and then raspberry flavor from something other than the real thing -- raspberries -- being considered artificial: "beaver 'stuff' purporting to taste like raspberries."
But if you are right, yet another big "EWWWWW!" goes right here! :confused:
ETA: this is the first time since having this tiny tab(let) that italics has showed up in a post when I told it to italicize something. No new version here, so maybe something changed in vBulletin???
Dennis M. Scott
March 20th, 2012, 10:38 PM
Salt is often a flavor enhancing additive, and we don't think much about it. Usually it is not questioned for its "naturalness". Forced to choose, I would prefer a little salt on my ice cream.
I do find a little castoreum aroma pleasant, but not with anything I'm eating. Unlike the article cited earlier in this thread, castoreum is not mixed with beaver urine for human consumption.
Admittedly, I'm weird: I have no qualms about eating a fine rump roast.
John Kennedy
March 21st, 2012, 01:10 AM
Well, the medicine I used to take for my diabetes -- Byetta -- is made from the saliva of the gila monster.
:::::::sigh::::::
Well, living in Arizona you could probably save money by trapping the critters and extracting the needed fluid. Just a suggestion.........
John Kennedy
March 21st, 2012, 01:14 AM
Many are aware that I occasionally do nuisance beaver trapping for the state. While the animals have to be destroyed, we try to use as many of the body parts as possible. Recently, the market for castoreum has skyrocketted. Traditionally, the perfume industry has driven this industry, but reports now are that it is being used to enhance the flavor of vanilla and raspberry ice cream.
I have become a rather committed mint chocolate chip person.
I believe this information to be true, but thought this might be the best choice of forum.
Well, you might try either theology (no, that would force a decision as to whether castoreum is general or post traditional) or CE (that would provide a pleasant diversion to the current dispute as to whether one should pledge allegiance or consider Catholics to be Christian).
Gina Stevenson
March 21st, 2012, 06:02 AM
Salt is often a flavor enhancing additive, and we don't think much about it. Usually it is not questioned for its "naturalness". Forced to choose, I would prefer a little salt on my ice cream.
I do find a little castoreum aroma pleasant, but not with anything I'm eating. Unlike the article cited earlier in this thread, castoreum is not mixed with beaver urine for human consumption.
Admittedly, I'm weird: I have no qualms about eating a fine rump roast.
Sort of like a little bit of (far away) skunk odor when living in the country isn't too bad, either? ;)
Dennis M. Scott
March 21st, 2012, 07:54 AM
Sort of like a little bit of (far away) skunk odor when living in the country isn't too bad, either? ;)
I have about half an ounce of skunk essence I need to discard. I could send it you, or to someone about a mile away. The problem with shipping skunk essence is that the post office, UPS, and FEDEX all open the package for inspection due to its aroma in the trucks. I have never had a shipment arrive that hadn't been opened for inspection. I've often wondered if they somehow feel better once they find a single ounce in a glass bottle. I suppose drub sniffing dogs would be a little confused. For that matter, skunk essence would be a great attempt to cover up traces of drug smells.
Gina Stevenson
March 22nd, 2012, 09:57 PM
Really? Had not tho't of its being used as a drug essence cover-up. Guess that might make sense.
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