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Wilson L. Deaton
6th February 2007, 12:00 PM (12:00)
Several different discussions have caused me to begin philosophizing on how we modern humans process data; most recently the link Scott posted on the global warming thread. I asked myself why would he accept that article while dismissing the U.N. report. From there I expanded my question to the more general notion of why any of us accepts one idea while rejecting another. I began to question the way we humans process data in general.

(Admittedly, my musings were precipitated by my own frustration with those who take and promote the view opposite mine. Thus, those areas are the areas I will use for examples. However, continued debate on the examples I mention should probably be restricted to the appropriate threads. In other words, don't debate global warming here. Do that on the global warming thread. Here, let's discuss how we evaluate not just global warming, but that and every other issue.)

Having said that, here is my social theory of human data processing.

We have lost the ability to interpret data subjectively. We have created so many “filters” that we can not recognize truth when we see it.

We proof-text: We can read 100 points of view and we’ll latch on to and quote the ones that support what we already believe while dismissing the ones with which we disagree. We do this regardless of source and credibility.

(Ironically and admittedly, I still maintain my opinions, but I’m going to use myself as the bad example here.)

The political filter: We read something that is disagreeable to us and immediately dismiss it as misleading or fabricated to further a political agenda. William Hunter and I have discussed and disagreed on the relationship between terrorists and Muslims. William says that the Koran, and Islam in general, is a religion of violence and hatred and that all true Muslims want to kill Christians. I disagree, so when I read something he posts on the topic I’m thinking that person who wrote it just wants to further the war effort, etc., and is just saying that stuff to enhance that position.

The financial filter: I accept that climate change is taking place and that we humans are causing it. Stan posted a column debunking the theory and I immediately latched on to the fact that it was sponsored by oil and therefore couldn’t be trusted. Meanwhile the gist of the article was that we who claim climate change is happening are doing so for the profit to be gained by the fear.

This same principle has been discussed with regard to Biblical interpretation for years. Develop any theological system and you will then read the Bible through that theological lens. Adherents to non-violence (like myself) will tend to downplay Old Testament war stories based on progressive revelation, etc. (and of course we think we are valid in doing so) while those who don’t accept non-violence will latch on to those Old Testament stories as normative while interpreting Jesus’ statements as being figurative language, etc.

Take global warming as another example. Thirty years ago we dismissed scientists who warned of this as being fringe extremists trying to make a name for themselves and that we should stick to the conservative majority. Now that climate change is the majority position of mainstream science we say it is some kind conspiracy theory aimed at furthering a political agenda or profiteering. The political filter applies as well. I honestly believe that there are people who will dismiss climate change for no other reason than that Al Gore says it is true.

When we read a report on global warming, or “facts” on some economic trend, or a commentary on the war, or a theological theory, etc. we immediately form an opinion. What we need to learn to do is to analyze why we formed the opinion we formed. Did we really consider the credibility, the logic, etc., or did we just run it through our conditioned filters?

Suppose the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had issued a report that said global warming is a myth and the perceived warming is a temporary result of natural cycles. Questions: Would everyone currently accusing them of political or economic conspiracy be touting them as being authoritative? Would people like me read the report and accept that we’ve been wrong? In other word do we judge the veracity of reports like this on some basis other than what we already believe?

(Let me reiterate that actual discussion on Muslms, global warming, etc. belong on those particular threads while we should limit comments here to the general concept of how we process data.)

Wilson

Billy Cox
6th February 2007, 01:45 PM (13:45)
I'll take a quick stab at this topic...

Our world view (the basic assumptions through which we filter our experiences) is an important part of our identity. Things that challenge or refute our world view can be perceived as a threat to our identity...hence the sometimes heated exchanges that happen when world views collide.

There is a danger in being too closely wedded to our world view. We can easily become arrogant, assuming that other world views are inferior so those who hold them must also be inferior.

Belinda Y. Edwards
6th February 2007, 01:59 PM (13:59)
Truth shall set you free.

The problem is that there are too many truths out there. Which one is correct? One is true with this set of elements and then becomes untrue when dynamics change.

Keep talking, Wilson - i am processing along with you. Keep asking the questions, Wilson - i ask the same.

Barb Bouldrey
6th February 2007, 02:04 PM (14:04)
When I was a teenager I believed what the newspaper, radio, television and my teachers said as truth.

Today I cannot trust any of those sources to be truth...even public school teachers.

Now I filter all I hear through doubt and questions because I hear so much that supports both sides of issues until I am not always sure what is truth. So, I hesitate to accept any of it as truth.

It is sad that our children are taught anti-biblical concepts in school so that parents have to explain to their children that what the teacher says is not necessarily true.

An example of this is a science teacher that teaches evolution as truth and openly accused Christianity of teach false things about creation. I had a teenager ask me how to answer questions about evolution on exams when they did not believe in evolution as truth. I advised them to answer: "According to our textbook, it says......" That way they are not writing the answers as if they believe in evolution.

Maybe I was naive and sheltered as a teen. I do not like feeling sceptical every time I hear the news. But I filter all things through years of conflicting "truth."

Barb

Joanne Vergin
6th February 2007, 07:40 PM (19:40)
i agree with practically everything that has been said except for that to which I do not agree. :basic02

I try to put everything in a God filter. It doesn't always work but that is my fault. Not God's

David Cash
6th February 2007, 07:57 PM (19:57)
"My mind is already made up--don't confuse me with the facts!" :basic05

If everybody were completely honest with facts, I don't think we'd have so much problem. The trouble is, people can lie with statistics, scientific data, etc. We've all seen it in one way or another, and as a result don't feel the need to believe every proclaimer of "truth" that is out there. We make our decisions based on experience. Have the different accademic disciplines, political parties, etc. always been right, or even honest in the past? Do the people advocating certain views fear God, who is the ultimate source of truth? A lot of this is ad hominem or however you spell it. But that fact is inevitable. Liars will lie, and we have no choice but to remember that.

The thing that you and I have to guard against is the contemporary trend to deny absolute truth and to deny that that truth is controlled by and centered in God.

In a world of conflicting voices and complicated issues, truth remains but we can't always tell what it is. Then it comes down to choosing loyalties, and once those loyalties start moving beyond God and a literal Bible, our ability to know truth begins to weaken.

Anyway, my initial thoughts.

David Cash

Jim Franklin
7th February 2007, 11:42 PM (23:42)
And one pastor said of some of his statements, "Now that is the truth and not just some preacher's story." So who is believable?