Attention: Arizona Drivers

[Dana Grant]

Just to let you know -- Lindsey is now an official driver on the roads of Arizona -- she received her learner's permit today.

Now -- I have to tell you this conversation:

MOM: I'm going to post on NazNet that you got your learner's permit today.

Lindsey: Oh cute, are you going to say "Dave & Linda, you got out of Arizona at just the right time!"?

MOM: No, but that is a GREAT idea!!! LOL




Actually, we just now drove around the neighborhood, and, although a bit shaky, she actually did a pretty good job! (She's never driven on a road before today!)

Prayers would be welcomed here......

Dana

[Dave McClung]

When I saw the caption, I thought, "I will post that we got out just in time."

Actually, from what I saw, I will trust Lindsay sooner that I will trust some of the other drivers. The ones that gave me the most fright are the ones with license plates that say, "Mexico." On that stretch of highway between Green Valley and Tucson the speed limit is 75. I think the folks from Mexico think that is the minimum limit rather than the maximum. From what I saw, they must not allow people from Mexico to replace shock absorbers. The 20 year old cars driving about 80 mph and swaying back and forth acroos the road gave me more than one scare.

Anyway, we enjoyed our stay in Arizona. You folks are great hosts.

Dave

[Cindi Hammons]

Dana,

Elizabeth is eligible on March 26th! :eek: This child can't even drive the riding lawnmower! However, seriously, I do believe she will do just fine.

[Lindsey Grant]

Well, what can I say, Mr. Dave, great minds think alike...

:D

[Joanne Vergin]

Congrats Lindsey,
My daughter Emily was suppossed to start DT yesterday but school has been canceled from the cold for two days. I am praying for all new drivers.

[Marsha Gupton]

OH NO!!!! BATTON DOWN THE HATCHES!!!

I can't believe that my little bit, Lindsey, is old enough to drive. I know she will be a good driver. Perhaps her sense of direction will be better than her mother's. (just kidding)

[Dana Grant]

OH NO!!!! BATTON DOWN THE HATCHES!!!

I can't believe that my little bit, Lindsey, is old enough to drive. I know she will be a good driver. Perhaps her sense of direction will be better than her mother's. (just kidding)

Uhhh, let's just put it this way: The apple does not fall far from the tree.......LOL

[Jim Franklin]

Lindsey, so that is why I did not get to stay at Sun Valley Indian School. The good Lord was not quite ready to take me Home yet. I am sure you will be just fine, young lady. Keep your eyes on the road and don't let anyone including a mother distract you.

[Dana Grant]

Lindsey, so that is why I did not get to stay at Sun Valley Indian School. The good Lord was not quite ready to take me Home yet. I am sure you will be just fine, young lady. Keep your eyes on the road and don't let anyone including a mother distract you.


HA HA HA-----good one, Jim!!! She's will be fine, I'm sure -- but she's getting the teasing around here, bless her heart.....she's a good sport, though. And she knows we all think she'll do just fine!!

[Joel Merrill]

Lindsey, if you hit my car, make sure you hit it in the left front corner, (but not too hard.) I already have a boo boo there that I did and I need someone else's insurance to pay for it :basic05


jOeL :bannana

[Dana Grant]

Lindsey, if you hit my car, make sure you hit it in the left front corner, (but not too hard.) I already have a boo boo there that I did and I need someone else's insurance to pay for it :basic05


jOeL :bannana


UHHHH, no Joel -- if she hits YOUR car, that means my precious VAN will be damaged, too -- and you know how much I love my van!!

In fact, I told her how special she was yesterday because it's not everyone who gets to drive my van!!! HA HA HA

[Doris Grant]

Lindsey you could always come to WV and learn in my truck along with all the snow. Just kidding. You will be fine. I have all the faith in the world in your competence.

Doris

[Joel Merrill]

UHHHH, no Joel -- if she hits YOUR car, that means my precious VAN will be damaged, too -- and you know how much I love my van!!

In fact, I told her how special she was yesterday because it's not everyone who gets to drive my van!!! HA HA HA
That's better yet :) Since you drive a van and I drive a car, she could give me a little bump and it probably wouldn't hurt your van :fav18

Joel :basic05

[Mark Doble]

Just to let you know -- Lindsey is now an official driver on the roads of Arizona -- she received her learner's permit today.

Now -- I have to tell you this conversation:

MOM: I'm going to post on NazNet that you got your learner's permit today.

Lindsey: Oh cute, are you going to say "Dave & Linda, you got out of Arizona at just the right time!"?

MOM: No, but that is a GREAT idea!!! LOL




Actually, we just now drove around the neighborhood, and, although a bit shaky, she actually did a pretty good job! (She's never driven on a road before today!)

Prayers would be welcomed here......

Dana

GO LINDSAY! vroooooooooom! :eek:

[Gina Stevenson]

CONGRATULATIONS, Lindsey! ;)

'Remember well what it was like learning to drive. 'Got my license the day after my 16th b'day. Why the day after? Because my b'day was on a Sunday! ha!

'Just keep cool, and you'll do all right. Sometimes the difference between being safe or not is keeping a clear head, and then letting yourself go, "Whoa!" and shake after whatever's all over (recalling this one time with my learner's permit what someone did on the freeway between our cottage and the house---about 30-35 miles apart---I quickly checked my mirror when someone did something in front of me, there was someone coming so I had to either figure if I could stop, or quickly step on it and get around them before the one coming up on me in the mirror got there. So, I reacted, got out of the "mess," and then shook after it was over.

So, keep cool ... you seem to be a rather level-headed gal, anyway, so you'll do OK, girl! ;) Probably better than Mom, in fact, eh? You're driving, so she's the one who's got time to get nervous; you're too busy for that. ;)

[Lindsey Grant]

Mom--we could always just fix the car with duct tape...*mischievous grin*

[Hans Deventer]

Just to let you know -- Lindsey is now an official driver on the roads of Arizona -- she received her learner's permit today.

What does that mean, Dana? Can she drive on the road without having a passed an exam?

[Dana Grant]

What does that mean, Dana? Can she drive on the road without having a passed an exam?

She did pass a written exam. When someone reaches the age of 15 years 7 months in Arizona, they are eligible to take the written exam to obtain a learner's permit. This allows the person to drive as long as there is a licensed driver who is at least 25 years old in the vehicle with them.

THEN, when they have reached 16, they may take a driving test in order to obtain a driver's license.

[Hans Deventer]

She did pass a written exam. When someone reaches the age of 15 years 7 months in Arizona, they are eligible to take the written exam to obtain a learner's permit. This allows the person to drive as long as there is a licensed driver who is at least 25 years old in the vehicle with them.

THEN, when they have reached 16, they may take a driving test in order to obtain a driver's license.

Wow! Over here, you can only start to take lessons if you are 18, can only drive in a special car with a licensed teacher (who obviously needs to be paid) and you are never allowed to drive under any other circumstances, unless you passed both practical and theoretical exams.

And still, there are discussions going on about what young drivers can do because they have the most accidents of all drivers.

[Barb Bouldrey]

Hans,
Your country is smarter than our country about teenage drivers.

Barb

[Dana Grant]

Hans,
Your country is smarter than our country about teenage drivers.

Barb


Amen!!!

Except I have become quite the taxi driver for all of Lindsey's activities (poor unsocialized homeschooler) -- that I am quite looking forward to her driving herself someday!!!

[Roland Hearn]

On the theme of daughters and driver's licenses, and wanting to avoid the shame of starting a thread on a subject that has a thread already, - my 17 year old daughter past her driver's test today. She is now licensed to drive. She has had her learners for more than nine months and been paying for her own lessons. She had all ready gone for one test but failed it. She was very nervous and I have been praying for her all day. She just called to say she got it.

[Mike Wooldridge]

On the theme of daughters and driver's licenses, and wanting to avoid the shame of starting a thread on a subject that has a thread already, - my 17 year old daughter past her driver's test today. She is now licensed to drive. She has had her learners for more than nine months and been paying for her own lessons. She had all ready gone for one test but failed it. She was very nervous and I have been praying for her all day. She just called to say she got it.

Congratulations to your daughter, Roland! :bannana

[Dana Grant]

On the theme of daughters and driver's licenses, and wanting to avoid the shame of starting a thread on a subject that has a thread already, - my 17 year old daughter past her driver's test today. She is now licensed to drive. She has had her learners for more than nine months and been paying for her own lessons. She had all ready gone for one test but failed it. She was very nervous and I have been praying for her all day. She just called to say she got it.


Congratulations!! Lindsey is not quite there yet. Ever since I had my accident a month ago, she has been a little leary of driving again. She has only had her permit for a few months, and she's not in a hurry to get her license.

[Hans Deventer]

Congratulations to your daughter, and I'm sorry for you :basic03

[Mike Wooldridge]

When I saw the caption, I thought, "I will post that we got out just in time."

Actually, from what I saw, I will trust Lindsay sooner that I will trust some of the other drivers. The ones that gave me the most fright are the ones with license plates that say, "Mexico." On that stretch of highway between Green Valley and Tucson the speed limit is 75. I think the folks from Mexico think that is the minimum limit rather than the maximum. From what I saw, they must not allow people from Mexico to replace shock absorbers. The 20 year old cars driving about 80 mph and swaying back and forth acroos the road gave me more than one scare.

Anyway, we enjoyed our stay in Arizona. You folks are great hosts.

Dave

There's a stretch of Interstate 20 between Odessa, TX and El Paso, TX where the posted speed limit is 80 MPH. YEE HAW!

[Gina Stevenson]

Have seen some of those cars, Dave! Both when living/traveling around in TX long ago, and when more recently living in AZ. Scary indeed!

[LoraineStanton]

So Dana, driver's education classes are not required in Arizona???

[Roland Hearn]

The down side of the new development began immediately.
My wife was able to ask my daughter to take her brother to the orthodontist. Which she willingly did. 45minutes - 1 hour is what it should have taken. When it started to get dark, we started to get a little concerned. My son called from the car saying they couldn't find the light switch. They in fact had found the light switch but it just wasn't quite dark enough for them to see the headlights shining, first problem diverted. They should have been home from that point in ten minutes. 35 minutes later they called saying they had stopped at the video store and couldn't get the car started. She had it in "drive" instead of "park." She learned to drive in a standard and it hadn't occurred to her what she needed to do. They should have been home in five minutes from that point. Half an hour later they still weren't home. She decided to get gas and there was a line up at the pump. They finally got home and hour later than expected and Kaylah announced that she was going to go out for dinner and a movie with her best friend. No problem except the stress is killing me. It was so bad I went to bed and went to sleep, only to be woken by her reporting in that she was home. Day 1 is over, today she will drive herself to work, day 2 has begun. If she can survive the first week without a wreck I guess I will feel a little less concerned.

[Dana Grant]

So Dana, driver's education classes are not required in Arizona???


No, it is not mandatory in AZ. However, taking DE does lower insurance costs for a teenaged driver.

We contacted the public school system, and she can only participate in drivers education class if she enrolls in four other classes. In other words, she has to be enrolled as a full-time student before they will let her take drivers ed.

Anyway, so we're looking into private drivers ed programs that are on the approval list from the DMV. We do want her to take DE because of the insurance benefits!! It would really help.

[Jim Franklin]

Come on up, we have a man in our church who owns and operates a driver's training school. So the insurance companies do not believe in home school drivers' education. Well how discrimanotory and you the teacher with only one recent mishap. How dreadful of them to be so picky.

[Dana Grant]

Come on up, we have a man in our church who owns and operates a driver's training school. So the insurance companies do not believe in home school drivers' education. Well how discrimanotory and you the teacher with only one recent mishap. How dreadful of them to be so picky.


Yeah, I guess they don't consider us "official" when it comes to drivers ed!! I suppose if we were certified drivers ed teachers, maybe then......LOL


And, just for clarification's sake, my recent mishap was due to someone rear-ending my van......I was nearly at a complete STOP when it happened!! So we don't need to go talking about THAT, now, Mister Jim!! LOL

[LoraineStanton]

No, it is not mandatory in AZ. However, taking DE does lower insurance costs for a teenaged driver.

We contacted the public school system, and she can only participate in drivers education class if she enrolls in four other classes. In other words, she has to be enrolled as a full-time student before they will let her take drivers ed.

Anyway, so we're looking into private drivers ed programs that are on the approval list from the DMV. We do want her to take DE because of the insurance benefits!! It would really help.

Wow! In Michigan, most, if not all driver's ed is private AND required for drivers under 18. We have a graduated system that requires classwork, road training and driving with a licensed driver over 21

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Michigans_Graduated_Licensing_System_153498_7.pdf

[Gina Stevenson]

And, just for clarification's sake, my recent mishap was due to someone rear-ending my van......I was nearly at a complete STOP when it happened!! So we don't need to go talking about THAT, now, Mister Jim!! LOL

Hadn't heard, until this thread, re your accident with your beloved van, Dana! Sorry 'bout dat. Actually, since my Bronco's gone, and I'm still in the borrowing mode (Ma's), I've tho't long & hard about a van rather than a car, too; think I might otherwise miss the room the ('86) Bronco had. A van would be lower than the Bronco, too, easier for Sasha, who's having a time with the steps here; rather high for her old legs. 'More room for her to get comfy, too, rather than trying to stay on a seat & not fall off onto the floor, etc, in a car.