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  1. Re: How can we help small churches afford resources?

    Lori and I love Jon and Melody's work - especially hers. :)

    If we could get a similar arrangement for copywrite-protected works for the hymnal and the ABS series (I think Lillenas), it would be...
  2. Re: In case you wondered who really owns the old Premier building

    Jim,
    I don't think a mortgage could be transferred easily. The mortgage, property, owner and debtor all need to be the same.

    I think the loan was taken out on the company, premier. Additionally,...
  3. Re: In case you wondered who really owns the old Premier building

    because the building was not part of a gift. it could be that wolfcreek still has addtional debt that we would not want to have any part of.

    the real question for me is why there was no law suit....
  4. Re: In case you wondered who really owns the old Premier building

    Bob, et al,

    Everything that I have read says that the loan was part of the corporation (Premier, i.e. the stock that was gifted to NPH).

    My belief continues to be that the loan was called...
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    Re: NPH Transition Plan

    I think this might be new tonight:

    http://www.nph.com/vcmedia/2423/2423058.pdf

    A few more words at least. Sounds like a bit of a retraction from the first closure statement.

    IMO, this is an...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    I don't disagree completely, but I am not sure I can agree either.

    You are probably correct, if the DS's job is to cast their vision on the district. But, maybe that is a task that is doomed to...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    Marg,

    It doesn't look like there is a church there now. (http://www.upstatedistrict.org/index.php/contact/church-directory)

    Some of the geography problems would perhaps disappear, if as you...
  8. Re: Just a Reminder: Can't make it to chuch today?

    thanks

    Lori stayed home sick today and enjoyed your service.

    Doug
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    Bill Carr was here for > 5 years; Clarence Hildreth was here for > 5 yrs; Dave Sharpes was only here for 2 years but I think he is the exception. I'm not sure we have had a lot of turnover.

    When...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    Dave,

    While I personally have no problem with merging and rearranging the entire east coast, I am pretty sure most of upstate NY is very content the way it is. This is partly out of necessity. ...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    I have no idea what that committee is supposed to do. Assuming they have power, they need people who are interested in more than organizational efficiency. Each geographic region in the Usa has its...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    Ryan,

    Under my plan Philly gets three 150+ churches from our southern tier. :)

    But you have a point - if we set a limit of 50 churches then we need new boundaries such that each district would...
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    Re: 2015 Preaching Plan idea...

    great idea - I would appreciate this approach as a layman. There is enough time to give some background to each book each week without it being a classroom.

    since you are just finishing a...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    Susan,

    Well I know the purpose since I was the one who suggested chopping up upstate, (not the bgs and not the dab). And I have no special powers so it probably won't happen. :)

    I have been...
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    I'm not sure merger is going to be discussed at...

    I'm not sure merger is going to be discussed at the local level but perhaps with the dab.

    If merger discussions were to take place, my suggestion is the buffalo frontier goes to Pittsburgh and...
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    Re: What's up with Upstate?

    i think we are supposed to go through a period of self-study before the election in April.

    if the gs had appointed a permanent ds, it would have been the 3rd in a row without an election.

    i...
  17. Nazarene Re: Looking for long-lost friends from Erie PA

    Bill,

    The Dan Shea I knew became a professor in biology @ENC. He was an early 1970s alum of ENC. He died approximately 10 years ago due to cancer. His wife, Mary Lou, is now a professor in the...
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    Advice Re: Ministerial Nepotism???

    generally speaking, no, never.

    specifically, I have heard of one case where it worked out really well.

    Mostly my experience with almost any family relationship is that it doesn't work out well...
  19. Re: A different perspective on "homeless."

    I heard this story on the radio a few weeks ago about a homeless family living in a car: http://storycorps.org/listen/kris-kalberer-and-erika-kalberer/#

    I always enjoy being a little late for work...
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    Re: How is your fall color?

    We hiked at Thatcher State Park today - overlooking Albany, NY (the tall buildings about 15 miles in the background)

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