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    Family Christian stores out of business

    If you hadn't heard Family Christian bookstores is going out of business. I had a few of these around me growing up.

    I know that some are disappointed but I'm actually happy they're going. I went in two of them yesterday and today to see what was left, not much. Plenty of NKJVs, ESVs and HCSBs left as well as the largest collection of Hagee, TD Jakes and David Jeremiah books I've see at any one time.

    Time will tell if they will really be gone from the area or if Lifeway will start springing up....
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    I haven't really shopped there in years. Bad selection and high prices.
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    For the last four to five years, the owners committed 100% of the company's profits to funds assisting widows and orphans. That's admirable, and might be one of the reasons they went out of business.
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    Re: Family Christian stores out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin Hobbs View Post
    If you hadn't heard Family Christian bookstores is going out of business. I had a few of these around me growing up.

    I know that some are disappointed but I'm actually happy they're going. I went in two of them yesterday and today to see what was left, not much. Plenty of NKJVs, ESVs and HCSBs left as well as the largest collection of Hagee, TD Jakes and David Jeremiah books I've see at any one time.

    Time will tell if they will really be gone from the area or if Lifeway will start springing up....
    Brick and mortar bookstores are obsolete. I suspect that Lifeway is little more than a beneficiary of market consolidation. It will look good for a time and then will succumb to the fate of other failed Christian bookstores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Morris View Post
    For the last four to five years, the owners committed 100% of the company's profits to funds assisting widows and orphans. That's admirable, and might be one of the reasons they went out of business.
    Haha, the only thing worse than running a church like it's a business is to run a business like it's a church.
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    Re: Family Christian stores out of business

    I worked for the company almost 10 years, including almost 4 years as the manager of one of their better producing stores. While I left almost 14 years ago, my daughter continued to work for them till about 2 years ago. While I have my personal opinion on some of the many factors that led to this decision, I can tell you that on-line competition was simply the final nail in the coffin. I will not go into details as I have too many friends on FB who worked for the company and have poured their heart and soul into it. To say it was due to their donation to charities alone or online competition alone is too simplistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Evans View Post
    I worked for the company almost 10 years, including almost 4 years as the manager of one of their better producing stores. While I left almost 14 years ago, my daughter continued to work for them till about 2 years ago. While I have my personal opinion on some of the many factors that led to this decision, I can tell you that on-line competition was simply the final nail in the coffin. I will not go into details as I have too many friends on FB who worked for the company and have poured their heart and soul into it. To say it was due to their donation to charities alone or online competition alone is too simplistic.
    Businesses cease to exist for one simple reason - they run out of money.

    The reasons that a business runs out of money are typically numerous and complicated; especially if the business has been around for many years.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us wthout end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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    Re: Family Christian stores out of business

    Just a question.....

    I know of some churches that have a "Book Stand" for a major Christian book supplier in my country (either Koorong or Word) and sell a limited range of books on behalf of those companies and take a small commission for doing so.

    Is this a common practice elsewhere and is it beneficial for people in the pew?
    (Curious?)

    One problem I potentially see with this is; who decides what genre of books is on display?
    Thoughts?

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    Re: Family Christian stores out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Cox View Post
    Brick and mortar bookstores are obsolete.
    I'm not sure they are completely. Books-A-Million (BAM) just opened a fairly large brand new store in our town. Not sure they'd invest in that if they weren't making money selling books in their brick & mortar bookstores (they operate over 260 stores in 32 states).
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    Re: Family Christian stores out of business

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Rector View Post
    I'm not sure they are completely. Books-A-Million (BAM) just opened a fairly large brand new store in our town. Not sure they'd invest in that if they weren't making money selling books in their brick & mortar bookstores (they operate over 260 stores in 32 states).
    There is certainly a significant amount of pushback. A lot of people that I know say they like to hold and smell an actual book, not a device. For myself, I am unlikely to read anything anymore unless I can get it for Kindle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Finch View Post
    There is certainly a significant amount of pushback. A lot of people that I know say they like to hold and smell an actual book, not a device. For myself, I am unlikely to read anything anymore unless I can get it for Kindle.
    Me too for a long time but I'll admit I'm starting to do a little more of the old fashion print. When I read books with people (staff), a real book is a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Rector View Post
    I'm not sure they are completely. Books-A-Million (BAM) just opened a fairly large brand new store in our town. Not sure they'd invest in that if they weren't making money selling books in their brick & mortar bookstores (they operate over 260 stores in 32 states).
    Yet BAM just went out of business here in the KC area last year.
    Maybe Arkies read more than Kansas folk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas Finch View Post
    There is certainly a significant amount of pushback. A lot of people that I know say they like to hold and smell an actual book, not a device. For myself, I am unlikely to read anything anymore unless I can get it for Kindle.
    But so much of the important cutting edge stuff people like me read (e.g. books on wing venation in Diptera, mating strategies in Orthoptera, etc.) isn't available on Kindle: only sold from old musty bookstores.
    And.....have you ever tried to smell a Kindle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Morrison View Post
    Yet BAM just went out of business here in the KC area last year.
    Maybe Arkies read more than Kansas folk?

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    Comparing and evaluating curricula is nearly impossible without physical samples. It is one of my biggest frustrations trying to navigate the CE side of children and youth ministry.
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    Probably didn't help much to keep them in business. Would watch for their $5 specials, mostly; some of them made nice inexpensive gifts foe low-income folks to buy.
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