Tom Brady vs. Tim Tebow, Take Your Pick

[David Lyons]

Rick Reilly has an article on ESPN called: Tom Brady, Tim Tebow, Take your pick http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7...take-your-pick

The whole article is worthwhile reading, but I will quote one paragraph: "Tom has the seventh-best-selling Fathead poster in the NFL this week. Tim has the best-selling one. And the second-best-selling one. And the 10th-best-selling one." Amazing.

So, are you more similar to Tom Brady or Tim Tebow? It dawned on me as I read the article that maybe I like Tim Tebow because I am more similar to him, only without the Heisman. (I do have a national title from one job, though I was only a bit player not the star.)

ps: I know it is possible to use the Title as the link with the url hidden in the background, but I forget how. Can someone help me? Thanks.

[Bob Hunter]

I want my son to be like Tim Tebow and not Tom Brady. I think that says it all.

[Mike Schutz]

I would like Tim Tebow to succeed. I would like Tim Tebow to be my friend.

I am glad Tom Brady is my quarterback.

[Dennis M. Scott]

I want my son to be like Tim Tebow and not Tom Brady. I think that says it all.

I get your point, but I'm glad my sons are like they are, and like neither Tim nor Tom.

[Shea Zellweger]

I would like Tim Tebow to succeed. I would like Tim Tebow to be my friend.

I am glad Tom Brady is my quarterback.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts, except Tom Brady is not *my* QB. I'd prefer him to be my QB over Tebow though, at least for the nonce.

[John Reilly]

The new young Christian Guy is going to walk all over the Old Man. The New has come! The Old is GONE!!! Sunday will be like the Christian Gladiators in the Roman Coliseum. The Christians win.

[Marian Schwaller Carney]

Well. Much as I like to see Tom win, and to some degree I guess I am a Pat's fan, I've never appreciated that Tom got an actress (whom I don't really know much about) pregnant, stalling her career, then left her. Yeah, yeah, it takes two, blah blah blah etc etc etc . But I'm quite sure we won't be reading that old story with Tim. As a woman, it is refreshing to have someone like Tim to watch win and then *still* be able to root for him for his life outside of football.

[David Lyons]

Interestingly enough, in the fantasy football league I am in, this is the first week of the playoffs and the one match-up has Tom Brady vs. Tim Tebow while the other match-up has Aaron Rodgers vs. Drew Brees. How did those guys get on playoff teams? I started the year with Matt Schaub and ended up with Matt Moore and somehow missed the playoffs. Hmmmpppphhhh!

[Dennis M. Scott]

I suspect it won't make any difference in how the media spins the game, but the Patriots are taking Tim very seriously. They typically don't do well in Denver, either.

[Bob Hunter]

I get your point, but I'm glad my sons are like they are, and like neither Tim nor Tom.

I understand, but my son is a football player and he really looks up to these guys. Last week Tom Brady lost his cool on the sidelines and spewed a number of expletives that were visibly discernable and he wasn't ordering a hamburger from Fudruckers! My son came to me and said "Dad, Tom Brady just dropped the F-bomb, he totally lost it." Meanwhile, in Denver, Tebow is down in the 4th and the odds are against him. A stingy Chicago defense kept them from running the ball. Instead of cussing, Tebow....starts Tebowing. The guy keeps his cool under pressure and it seems prayer is a tool that helps him keep focus and set a good example. Afterall, God is not vested in the outcome of these games, but God does care about us setting a good example to youth. And I'm glad Tebow has divine help in that department.

[Dennis M. Scott]

It might have been a good thing could your son have seen Tom following the game, at which time he ate humble pie, admitted he was wrong, saying the coach was right. His reverse gear is better than nothing, but he could have avoided the whole incident, like Tim has done. For a role model, I'd vote for spiritual example of Tim, coupled with the developed athletic skill of Tom. Being able to choose only one, Tim's got the nod.

[Scott Sherwood]

Brady is more accomplished. He is a better pocket passer. He is a lock for the Hall of Fame.

Brady was the 23rd pick of the 6th round, which demonstrates how difficult it is even for the experts to predict future success.

On top of that, I could easily imagine Tebow walking away from football at a moment's notice to concentrate on more important matters.

Who knows what his future holds?

Still, I'd take Tebow. Call me crazy. I think he has the ability to win more games in the next decade than Brady. But, I thought the Bears should have kept Doug Flutie back in the day. Nobody ended up giving Flutie a chance even though he won everywhere he was given the chance, and I dare say would have won way more games for Chicago than the parade of faceless textbook passers they went through over the course of that decade.

Of course, I'm not a GM. I'm a fan, and a casual one at that. You know what they say about listening to fans? Those who listen to fans end up sitting with the fans.

[David Lyons]

I understand, but my son is a football player and he really looks up to these guys. Last week Tom Brady lost his cool on the sidelines and spewed a number of expletives that were visibly discernable and he wasn't ordering a hamburger from Fudruckers! My son came to me and said "Dad, Tom Brady just dropped the F-bomb, he totally lost it." Meanwhile, in Denver, Tebow is down in the 4th and the odds are against him. A stingy Chicago defense kept them from running the ball. Instead of cussing, Tebow....starts Tebowing. The guy keeps his cool under pressure and it seems prayer is a tool that helps him keep focus and set a good example. Afterall, God is not vested in the outcome of these games, but God does care about us setting a good example to youth. And I'm glad Tebow has divine help in that department.

Bob, here is a link to a YouTube video of that game where Tebow was miked. I am not a Broncos fan, but I found the video very inspirational.

[Marian Schwaller Carney]

I saw that game. It's great to hear the mic. Always wondered what they talked about to each other - guess it's just like any other job, eh?

[Marian Schwaller Carney]

I understand, but my son is a football player and he really looks up to these guys. Last week Tom Brady lost his cool on the sidelines and spewed a number of expletives that were visibly discernable and he wasn't ordering a hamburger from Fudruckers! My son came to me and said "Dad, Tom Brady just dropped the F-bomb, he totally lost it." Meanwhile, in Denver, Tebow is down in the 4th and the odds are against him. A stingy Chicago defense kept them from running the ball. Instead of cussing, Tebow....starts Tebowing. The guy keeps his cool under pressure and it seems prayer is a tool that helps him keep focus and set a good example. Afterall, God is not vested in the outcome of these games, but God does care about us setting a good example to youth. And I'm glad Tebow has divine help in that department.

According to NESN radio (Dennis and Gallagher, I think it was? or maybe the afternoon team - I was commuting) what Tom Brady was asking Billy OReilly was, "Who do you [insert fbomb here] think I am? Tim Tebow?" This according to a lip reader specialist. It was easy to see his lips when it first happened; in replay the network blurred out his mouth.

[Doug Kitchen]

Brady is more accomplished. He is a better pocket passer. He is a lock for the Hall of Fame.

Brady was the 23rd pick of the 6th round, which demonstrates how difficult it is even for the experts to predict future success.

On top of that, I could easily imagine Tebow walking away from football at a moment's notice to concentrate on more important matters.

Who knows what his future holds?

Still, I'd take Tebow. Call me crazy. I think he has the ability to win more games in the next decade than Brady. But, I thought the Bears should have kept Doug Flutie back in the day. Nobody ended up giving Flutie a chance even though he won everywhere he was given the chance, and I dare say would have won way more games for Chicago than the parade of faceless textbook passers they went through over the course of that decade.

Of course, I'm not a GM. I'm a fan, and a casual one at that. You know what they say about listening to fans? Those who listen to fans end up sitting with the fans.

Brady (especially when he was breaking in) was/is an exacting quarterback. He demands perfect routes by his receivers or he won't throw to them. He also had/has a tremendous work ethic that overcame many of his physical limitations. (this was from a 60 minutes interview after one of his superbowl wins) Those are qualities that I look for in employees and coworkers. I think I noticed that as his off-the-field antics increased, his on-field performance decreased. (of course, he was also getting older). On any given day, Brady can lose - at this point, he should never lose but he does.

Tebow is a winner. He trained hard in college. When he plays, he wins. I don't know how long his style of play will last (many q-b's have started out like him as runners - Grogan on the Patriots was an example and there are many more recent examples). David Lyons' video illustrates how Tebow can lead and inspire without having all the mechanics right. When someone dropped a pass (that I could have caught at 51 years of age), Tebow tells the receiver that he will be the hero. I would hire a guy like Tebow to do almost any job.

Scott, you brought up a great comparison to Tebow - Flutie. Doug Flutie was the best high school quarterback in Massachusetts, he then went to BC and had a good career and won a lot. But he was small and looked fragile. You are right though, everywhere he went, he won. Tebow may have a career like Flutie's. On any given day, Flutie would win, unexpectedly.

I have been listening and watching patriot's games since 1970 or so: I want the patriots to win. here's my guess on the outcome tomorrow:

the Patriot's defense will take the second half off (as they have most of the season). That will be a big advantage to Tebow. I rarely get to watch the games where I live now and only get to watch the scores. I am amazed at how many points the patriots are ahead at halftime and then how close the games end up - 34-27 over washington; 31-24 over indianapolis (???? really !!!!). Brady is likely to be the better quarterback but I wouldn't be surprised to see Denver be the better team. With the patriot's defense, this could be a great week for Tebow.

this game is not on my local station, that's probably a good thing for my stomach lining.

Doug

[David Morris]

Bob, here is a link to a YouTube video of that game where Tebow was miked. I am not a Broncos fan, but I found the video very inspirational.

I'm guessing his post career vocation will not include leading worship.

Aside from that...I love this guy.

[David Lyons]

I'm guessing his post career vocation will not include leading worship.

Aside from that...I love this guy.

Tebow's singing is kind of like his throwing motion. He does make a joyful noise, though. I think his post-playing career could easily be in coaching. Or pastoring.

[Wes Smith]

For those who say Tebow would/will never succeed as a successful QB in the NFL, here is an interesting article.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...broncos_121411

This guy says what I've been thinking and saying (in a much less informed context!) all along.

Friend,

Wes

[Dennis M. Scott]

Well, at halftime, it's been a treat to watch these two QBs.

[David Lyons]

The Broncos apparently didn't know what to do with a good lead. Of course, they were playing an experienced team.

[Shea Zellweger]

The Broncos apparently didn't know what to do with a good lead. Of course, they were playing an experienced team.

The defense let them down. Tebow contributed just as much as he has in previous weeks- if the D had kept up their end of things, they would've won the game. Which, I think, goes to show just how crucial the D has been to Denver's success with Tebow under center.

[Marian Schwaller Carney]

Well, at halftime, it's been a treat to watch these two QBs.

At which point I had to leave to preach an evening service! Talk about a sermon distraction Thank goodness for dvr...... once home, stayed up until nearly midnight watching the rest of the game. Kept myself cloistered from outside telecomm until then.

In once sense, it is a relief, to me, for Tebow. Now he can be a regular guy ( as much as that is possible) and move on from the 'curiosity' factor and possible enemy attacks that can bring to a Christian in the limelight.

[John Reilly]

Tebow was excellent and did well against the experience of Brady. The team was not so good. The team needs to work on protecting their QB like the Patriots do for Brady. Tebow was like a Pastor trying to do all the work for the church. Brady has a skilled and supportive team.

[Mike Schutz]

The defense let them down. Tebow contributed just as much as he has in previous weeks- if the D had kept up their end of things, they would've won the game. Which, I think, goes to show just how crucial the D has been to Denver's success with Tebow under center.

Oakland, Kansas City, J-E-T-S, San Diego, Minnesota - none of those teams, with the possible exception of San Diego when they are playing well, provides as much of a problem for a defense as does New England. It would have been a major improvement for the Denver D to stop the Patriot offense, as Hoodie/Tom did what they do - lets the defense take away one weapon and exploits the others. The Pats adjustment to stop the run, and Tebow's inability to take advantage of New England's horrible secondary - decided the game.

[Shea Zellweger]

Oakland, Kansas City, J-E-T-S, San Diego, Minnesota - none of those teams, with the possible exception of San Diego when they are playing well, provides as much of a problem for a defense as does New England. It would have been a major improvement for the Denver D to stop the Patriot offense, as Hoodie/Tom did what they do - lets the defense take away one weapon and exploits the others. The Pats adjustment to stop the run, and Tebow's inability to take advantage of New England's horrible secondary - decided the game.

Valid point. However, Denver's D had been playing at an exceptional level throughout Tebow's tenure thus far. One need only look through their scores to see that their "blueprint" to this point has been for the D to keep it close enough that Tebow can work some magic in the final minutes and pull out another close one. With the final minutes approaching, the team was down by 3 scores, and when Tebow kicked it into that final gear to start scoring, the D allowed another TD (on a long drive), and then the offensive line fell apart to seal the deal. Yeah, the Patriots deserve credit, but I don't think Tebow deserves blame for the loss any more than he deserves credit for the wins- this team has lived and died on defense, with perhaps one exception.

Tebow was excellent and did well against the experience of Brady. The team was not so good. The team needs to work on protecting their QB like the Patriots do for Brady. Tebow was like a Pastor trying to do all the work for the church. Brady has a skilled and supportive team.

I don't think you can really classify Tebow's game as excellent. If any elite QB put up those numbers yesterday, it would be considered a bad day. Actually, several of Aaron Rodgers' numbers were almost identical to Tebow's- Completion percentage and Passer Rating being the most notable among them. I don't think anyone would argue Rodgers was excellent yesterday.

[Dennis M. Scott]

It would have been a major improvement for the Denver D to stop the Patriot offense, as Hoodie/Tom did what they do - lets the defense take away one weapon and exploits the others. The Pats adjustment to stop the run, and Tebow's inability to take advantage of New England's horrible secondary - decided the game.

Come on, Mike. You keep posting your analysis on naznet, and everybody in the NFL is going to take advantage of the Patriots.

[Jim Poteet]

Tebow was excellent and did well against the experience of Brady. The team was not so good. The team needs to work on protecting their QB like the Patriots do for Brady. Tebow was like a Pastor trying to do all the work for the church. Brady has a skilled and supportive team.

-Huh?

[Jim Franklin]

Perhaps post pro career Tim will become a Billy Graham type of evangelist. Earlier we had Billy Sunday actually quitting his major league baseball career to become a world wide evangelist. I can forsee that there would be many that would support him is such an endeavor if Tim felt that was what God wanted him to do. I think he sees his rise to prominence as a stage or platform on which hi is to glorify God. And he is doing just that whether the secular pundits like it or not.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

So - tied game - overtime - one play - 80 yards - touchdown - game over.

Oh yeah, quarterback: Tebow.

[Wes Smith]

So - tied game - overtime - one play - 80 yards - touchdown - game over.

Oh yeah, quarterback: Tebow.

Any significance to 316 yards passing?

Friend,

Wes

[Mike Schutz]

Fortunately for Tim Tebow, he does not play against Tom Brady. He plays against the New England defense, which has been much less effective than that of Pittsburgh.

I like Tim Tebow, and do not believe that he is the worst thing to hit the NFL since Ryan Leaf (as another Ryan we all know and love seems to think). And I would like him to be my friend and even marry my daughter.

However, I'm still glad Tom Brady is my QB.

[Jeremy D. Scott]

Any significance to 316 yards passing?

Friend,

Wes

Yes...






...it was the most he has ever thrown for in an NFL game.

[Bob Hunter]

I think Tim Tebow deserves a lot of credit for knocking off a fighting Pittsburgh team. He was a dominate factor and hurt them bad. Tebow will never be elite (Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers), but he will be a league nemesis. He will win a consistent 8-11 games a year and make wild card appearances where he will wreak havoc on his opponents and create worries for even the best defenses. I do not think he is good enough to be elite and he may never reach the Super Bowl as a starter.

He needs a supporting cast to achieve wins consistently. 1) A good kicker 2) A stingy defense 3) A better receiving core 4) Unconventional coaching 5) An effective backfield.

Lucky for him he has about 3 or 4 of the above this year and he won 8 games. But then, any QB would love to have those assets.

My prediction: New England vs. Denver I'm going to say 24-14 Denver's defense will not let Brady go on a tear again. There will turnovers and it will a respectable game but NE will come out on top.

[David Lyons]

Tim Tebow is a traitor! I support his cause all year and what do I get in return? He knocks my team from the playoffs!!!! The Steelers, Big Ben in particular, made a great effort in taking the game to overtime, then ... man ... it hurts to see the defense on the side of the field while whoever that was out there let a running quarterback get away with so many long passes!

The only upside I see is that the injury-ridden Steelers would probably not have outscored New England in the next game anyway.

Do you think maybe it will be Tim Tebow vs. Eli Manning in the Super Bowl with each trying to convince the experts that they really are elite quarterbacks?

[Bob Hunter]

Do you think maybe it will be Tim Tebow vs. Eli Manning in the Super Bowl with each trying to convince the experts that they really are elite quarterbacks?

I don't think that is going to happen. I can see Pats vs. Saints in the Super Bowl.

[Shea Zellweger]

Do you think maybe it will be Tim Tebow vs. Eli Manning in the Super Bowl with each trying to convince the experts that they really are elite quarterbacks?

No, because even if it's Eli vs. Tebow in the Super Bowl, only one of them will actually have a shot at convincing the experts he is elite. Yesterday was clearly Tebow's best game of his young career, but a good game (or even 4 good games resulting in a SB victory) does not make someone elite. Tebow will need several years of sustained success, and personal statistical accomplishment, before anyone can even begin to talk about him as elite. Eli just had the best statistical season of his career, is not far from becoming the most accomplished QB (individually) in Giants' history, and would have 2 rings- no matter whose definition of elite you use, he would begin to qualify if all of that were to happen, although I'd still have my reservations.

But I don't think either of them are going to the SB. For the Giants to beat both the Packers and Saints, and the Broncos to best the Pats and Ravens, would be nothing short of miraculous.

[Wes Smith]

Yes...






...it was the most he has ever thrown for in an NFL game.

Oh, thanks!

I was seeing something Biblical. Like, the most controversial Christian sports figure in sports history winds up winning his first play-off game with a 3:16. I am now a convert to numerology! Ha! Any takers? I'm predicting 320 yards against New England, as in Ephesians!

Friend,

Wes

[Jim Franklin]

And Tim belongs to the Miracle Worker.

[Bob Hunter]

Maybe he should run for President, he would probably get more votes than some of the current Republican candidates.