With a global vision.
Interesting this guy says what a lot of American Christians think, but just don't say.
Hey!!!!!
With a global vision.
Interesting this guy says what a lot of American Christians think, but just don't say.
Hey!!!!!
http://www.steeplesound.com
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And to think that was the invitation to the altar for pastoral prayer. I'd love to hear what he said in his sermon!
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Well bless his heart
"Fully embracing the Gospel, fully engaging the world"
Sounds more like the rant of some drunk down at a corner bar than the preaching of the Gospel. But then, what would you expect from someone whose grammar makes it sound like he holds intellectual pursuit in low regard. HEY!!!
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Refreshing!Originally Posted by Gary Creely
You guys have got to read more.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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Not my next pastor.
Grace and Peace,
Jon Twitchell
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Kind of like the flip side of Jeremiah Wright, huh.
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Indeed.
Fear not those who argue but those who dodge. -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach
Are you saying that his chickens are still loose?
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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Downright torture.
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And if we find out he was Santorum's pastor the past 20 years we'll never hear the end of it.
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Couldn't possibly be my next pastor (Olathe College Church). He just doesn't seem to be GS material
BILL
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I know I've heard him preaching on the corner of 23rd and MacArthur .
"And as we pass the collection plate, please give as if the person next to you was watching."
-Rev. Lovejoy
I thought that by definition, pastoring Olathe College Church was the same as being GS material.Couldn't possibly be my next pastor (Olathe College Church). He just doesn't seem to be GS material
BILL
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us wthout end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
- C.S. Lewis
Your catching on. There is hope after all!
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
Oh yeah. After the second hey I couldn't handle the torture anymore and stopped watching. bad memories!
Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. 1 John 3:18
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. 1 John 4:18a
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Someone needs to tell the Rev. that "hey" is a euphemism for "H E double hockey sticks" which is a euphemism for.......
BILL
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I confess to being a bit surprised when near the end he stated the two most important criteria for determining his support: 1) supporting Israel; and, 2) leaving the churches alone...
HEY! What about gay marriage?
I also loved the part about all the Baptist missionaries heading into Japan with their KJVs. Fortunately, all the WW II era Japanese spoke Ye Olde English...
Wilson
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Don't worry - Santorum is a Roman Catholic.And if we find out he was Santorum's pastor the past 20 years we'll never hear the end of it.
"Fully embracing the Gospel, fully engaging the world"
Where DO you guys come up with this stuff???
Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. 1 John 3:18
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. 1 John 4:18a
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Maybe its title on youtube has some political word in it?
Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one.
~ Stella Adler ~
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It takes a great deal of maturity to accept that trying to eliminate all risk eliminates life.
~ Susan Lapin ~
No doubt!
Remind me: How big is the tent?
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I admire his patriotic loyalty..... but that's about all!
I am not sure that is even very admirable, seems to be based in ignorance. I have spent a good deal of time outside of the USA, and there is nothing I like better then coming home. I would not say however 1. Everybody should be like the USA or 2. We have always used our power for good.
Listen Now, I didn't know HEY whether to click the laughing button or the crying button.
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Not positive about this, but I think he may be the leader of the "Reformed Baptists" movement.
Friend,
Wes
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Wonder if he's sending this video out to pastoral search committees. I'm sure the Lord has a place for him.
Ha - well, I knew some sharp eye'ed NazNetter would never let me get away with using Romney in my example, so I settled for Santorum.
It might be observed that any politician who sits under this guy's preaching for 20 years is going to have a hard time getting elected.
Of course, that depends if he's running for NRA President or not.
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Hopefully, not leading a church!
Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. 1 John 3:18
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. 1 John 4:18a
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Hey lets be kind. AS far as we can tell this might not have even been delivered to a live audience. Perhaps he was practicing ? Didn't you preacher guys ever practice preach and have it taped? or he could be parodying himself getting ready for some good old fashioned jocular roasting.
"And as we pass the collection plate, please give as if the person next to you was watching."
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All joking aside. While I can admit that this fellow is fun to watch, I don't understand the level of condescension that seems to be flowing his way. The guy does have a graduate degree in theology, HEY!!!, maybe not in one of our schools and HEY!!!, maybe we might not agree with the flavor of his school but HEY!!!, they probably don't like ours either. To each his own so to speak, and perhaps all things might even be equal.
It does appear that he pastor's a decent size church with pretty nice facilities. Even sounds like his people like him just fine. I listened to one of his sermons on faith, and it wasn't bad at all. I don't believe that folks sleep during service there.
http://friendshipbaptistradford.com/pastor.html
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
What I just watched was not church... and had no place in a church building.
I'm not talking about presentation... or style... dress... or even sentence construction.
That's not worship. It's something else.
Grace and Peace,
Jon Twitchell
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To that I agree to a certain extent. As much as I might agree with a lot of what he said, I would agree that he was over the top with the politics. I would not attend a church where politics become central, neither that which I agree with, nor the government social justice crowd which I abhor. Fair is fair in that regard.
Are we to judge him on a two minute sound clip? I checked out their church web site, it seems that they are about much more than politics. Two minutes?
This guy is taking a different tack, it's highly political and he names names. I would suggest that this is entirely appropriate. This guy is surely talking about the business of being the church.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
I'm not sure that you understand my objection... while I agree that over-the-top politics has no place in the pulpit, I don't think that's my primary issue. My issue isn't left or right politics... or attempting to be fair between the two... (although I think that's important too).
The primary issue is the over-the-top patriotism in the church service... it's not worship... it borders on idolatry.
Having said that... I'm sure that you're right when you say that this particular church has PLENTY of good things going for it besides this particular two-minute clip. I didn't see anyone judging the rest of the church based on the clip... but I can't see myself attending that church... at least not if this occurred more than once or twice.
(By the way... I'm not sure I think that this other clip you provided qualifies for my idea of Christian Worship either. There are plenty of contexts in which it is appropriate... but I still don't see it as Christian Worship... it's something else.)
Grace and Peace,
Jon Twitchell
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No argument from me there. Although I'm thinking that we may not be seeing eye to eye on what constitutes "worship"
I couldn't picture myself attending there either. Even though I must admit that I love the way he alliterates the word "HEY!!!" He seems to bring it forward on the off beat in his cadence, then he brings it out smoothly holding it out while increasing then decreasing the volume.
Still I'm guessing that he is probably one of those preachers that just plain talks too much.
I'm not entirely sure how you are defining worship. I'm seeing this Priest as equipping his saints toward action to aid in the mission of the church. That is the proper function of clergy, at least in my view. As far as "worship" in the heart toward heaven sense, yes I can see it's place in the service as we sing and pray, but beyond that I'm thinking no. I worship all week long, I don't need to go to church for that, I'd like to be equipped please.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
NOT!!!
Indie-Fundie all the way!
Big difference, as far as the East is from the West. The Israel remark was the big clue... Though you might have missed the first clue which was HEY!!!!!
Blessings
George
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
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HEY, I hear that! As I told Chelsie about this video I commented that it would have been pretty funny if it wasn't so sad...
Wilson
"But by the grace of God I am what I am." (1 Cor. 15:10)
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