Well, looks like I'll be back. Just heard from our secretary that I've been reelected.
Well, looks like I'll be back. Just heard from our secretary that I've been reelected.
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Great to hear!
We're hoping to make the trek out to Indy by car again... and I'm already thinking about providing unofficial internet coverage like we did in Orlando... provided that's something that people would be interested in!
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And so it begins...
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I would love to be there, but it's probably quite questionable at this point. The cost may be prohibitive and if we do come up with some money, we've got enough frequent flyer miles to go to Hawaii (something we've been saving for 6 years now), so the money would likely go in that direction.
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I've been saving for Hawaii for 38 years. I hope you can go Ryan. Will you take your wife with you?Originally Posted by Ryan Scott
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The final battle in the Lord of the Rings?
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Hans, it seems you're constantly posting things that look like you're seeking sympathy. Your district has again made a good choice. It's important, but don't let the littleness get under your skin.
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Dennis, I know the grace of God should be enough, but the truth is, I'm not there yet.
Btw, we also elected Dennis Mohn, son of the former South West Germany District DS, and Rolf Noordhof, our DS assistent. I think we'll have a good delegation.
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Just wondering what it would be like. Should a Nazarene of 75 years who has never been to a GA be excommunicated?
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Me, too. It helps that I have family who live near there.
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Based on what rule, Jim? There are numerous Nazarenes that will never get to visit a GA in their life time. For a Dutch Nazarene, I'm a huge exception. This will be my 5th.
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We plan on being there - haven't missed one since my first in Dallas in 1976.
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I'm sure we'll be there, delegated or not.
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Well, we've been saving frequent flyer miles - the money part, for food and lodging might be the deal breaker. We'll see how finances look. I'm not sure if we'll make it to Indy, but I'd love to be there.
...just my $.02.
I happen to enjoy certain aspects of General Assembly - but I know some folks for whom it was a rude awakening and led them to a less-than-good place when it came to their perspective on the denomination.
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Yes, for all of the God-talk that takes place at GA, the process is very much manmade. The most dangerous question that floats through my mind is whether those who slather on the religious language really believe what they are saying, or whether they are just playing everyone else as suckers. Sometimes it takes considerable willpower and probably some grace to not dwell there for too long.
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I will be at the convention but not at the GA!
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Larry
Oh that's right. Gotta start saving my pennies for the big trip to Indianapolis in 2013. I've been nominated as a delegate twice. That's way cool from my point of view but a long way from actual election. I probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than being elected as a delegate -- which is only slightly lower than if I actually bought lottery tickets.
Marsha
(not quite close enough to Indy to commute for a multi-day event)
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I will probably make the trek over to Indy for at least a day or two of the convention, if not all of it. A good reason for me to go would be to educate my wife to be on the Church of the Nazarene a bit more. (FYI, I'm engaged as of three weeks ago and getting married this June). I hope to be at the entire convention but that all depends on a few different factors.
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Congrats!
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My family plans on being there. I know I will be nominated for the NMI convention since I am on the council. Last time I was elected. I seem to be popular on the district so it would not surprise me If I get elected again*. If I am elected, I would love to be part of the Twitter corp again.
*I am not trying to brag. This is more of a burden if anything else.
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If I'm not there, I'll certainly be following via whatever online coverage exists - and will probably take to breaking fictional news over twitter as if I am there.
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You don't have to be elected in order to be part of "the Twitter corp."
On the other hand... being present at the event certainly would be helpful!
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We don't have a pilgrimage requirement for a GA like some religions
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I think in our religion, to have to walk several times around a site is considered dangerous. You never know, the entire structure might collapse!We don't have a pilgrimage requirement for a GA like some religions
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Yeh, we usually prioritize the conventions. We tend to leave after Sunday worship or on Monday morning. But who knows, just a few days ago my wife and I were discussing the possibility of staying for the whole thing this time...
Wilson
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I love Indy but am sad they closed the Nordstrom's downtown for the new construction.
I could by size 12 shoes off the shelf there, many styles! Everyone in Indiana is at least 5'9" tall, so its a standard size. I will get me to GA nonetheless, I suspect. Would love to meet you, Hans!
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We will! Doesn't look like anyone will join me as to family, so I'm all set to meet people, no obligations.
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If the USA delegation were required to march around the outside of the convention center, I assure you there would be a lot of collapsing going on.I think in our religion, to have to walk several times around a site is considered dangerous. You never know, the entire structure might collapse!
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I suspect if you were going to stay for one, this would be the one.
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Great! we can go shopping for shoes, race cars, and play basketball
I'll try to think of other gross generalizations about Indianapolis between now and then.....
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David...this one had me in tears. Thank you!
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Yes, Walmart would definitely need to donate some courtesy scooters.
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Marian, a few things: there is very little in downtown Indy that I long to see, and shops are nor a part of that. And I don't care much for shopping at all, where ever that may be.Great! we can go shopping for shoes, race cars, and play basketball
I'll try to think of other gross generalizations about Indianapolis between now and then.....
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Marian, I have met Hans, Hannie and Edwin. General Assembly would be greatly enhanced by the other two, were they to be there.
Yet I am thrilled that Hans will again be a part. He always makes things worthwhile.
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Having been around the Church of the Nazarene since 1943, and have attended several GAs I have noticed that you can predict those who will be elected or rather appointed to be delegates.
The same pastors their wives, the same lay people and their spouse.
Why not spread the free trip around, there are pastors and lay persons who are qualified and who can not afford or their church can not afford to pay some of their way.
Sounds like politics, does it not?
Or maybe if you are elected as a delegate for the 2nd,3rd time you would help pay
the way of a friend.
just a thought
gerald
I'd love to meet you, Hans. I'll likely be there for the conventions & might be there for the assembly business. We'll see.
Well, if I make enough money that I can afford to take a day or two off and check it out, I may stop by. I'm only three hours away from Indy.
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That is a great suggestion. Of course, it is solely dependent upon the district's nominating committee for those who are delegates to GA, and to the district NMI and NYI to choose their delegates.
From a pastoral perspective, it is completely understandable that the delegates to the district assembly vote for the people whose names are familiar to them, so it would have to be the conscious decision of the nominating committee - which is typically made up of the DAB and others in leadership on the district to encourage nominating those who have not gone before. The district superintendent is the one person who could make this happen, if they were thinking of it. However, from the perspective of the DAB and DS, they often see being a delegate to GA as a reward for hard work on district assignments.
Intentionally moving the nomination around would require a purposeful effort - and likely the
magnanimous suggestion of a seasoned pastor who has been a delegate in the past.
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