Taking a break

[Kyle Borger]

This has become an unhealthy distraction for me. I have discovered that I really don't know anything. I can't afford to spend my time watching not just the Nazarene church but the church in the US be torn apart by this argument about the Emergent church. I am plain worn out just trying to figure out what an Emergent church is.

I have tried to read the articles and I have tried to read and watch the information from the Concerned Nazarenes and I just start feeling sick. I really just feel a darkness come upon me anytime this subject comes up.

I just can't do it. So much of this makes no sense to me. I see the behavior of many involved and I do not see Jesus. I have read the personal comments back and forth and on the various facebook pages and blogs on both sides and I see a joy that is present in declaring the other person wrong.

How can there be anything but sadness?

I'm sorry but my community here needs me. They need me to be healthy. I may be messed up theologically and I may not know anything. But every day all I can do is dedicate myself to serving Christ as His slave. All that I know to do is to lay myself out before Christ and beg Him to purify me and to find me useful. May I somehow, someway, in spite of my inadequacies and weakness, glorify God.

[Peggy Gray]

I'll be lifting you in prayer

[Jon Twitchell]

Kyle,

Praying for you... and your community as you serve God together.

Just remember that NazNet is MUCH MORE than a debate about the Emergent or emerging church. We've gotten pretty sidetracked over this thing... and there's plenty of ways we can love one another and share with one another that have nothing to do with this current debate. (Which also makes me feel a bit sick.)

Do what you need to do... but maybe you just need to stay away from a couple of threads... not away from NN altogether!

Blessings

[Bob Hunter]

This has become an unhealthy distraction for me. I have discovered that I really don't know anything. I can't afford to spend my time watching not just the Nazarene church but the church in the US be torn apart by this argument about the Emergent church. I am plain worn out just trying to figure out what an Emergent church is.

I have tried to read the articles and I have tried to read and watch the information from the Concerned Nazarenes and I just start feeling sick. I really just feel a darkness come upon me anytime this subject comes up.

I just can't do it. So much of this makes no sense to me. I see the behavior of many involved and I do not see Jesus. I have read the personal comments back and forth and on the various facebook pages and blogs on both sides and I see a joy that is present in declaring the other person wrong.

How can there be anything but sadness?

I'm sorry but my community here needs me. They need me to be healthy. I may be messed up theologically and I may not know anything. But every day all I can do is dedicate myself to serving Christ as His slave. All that I know to do is to lay myself out before Christ and beg Him to purify me and to find me useful. May I somehow, someway, in spite of my inadequacies and weakness, glorify God.

Kyle,

No problem, I would just say that it is all about balance and keeping one's priorities. And it is obvious you are aware of your own limitations, good for you. I am fully aware the conversation and controversy is taxing, we all feel it from time to time. But this is the world we live in and the issues are not going away. I guess I just try to do my best to grind through it and not lose my overall focus to serve Jesus and His Kingdom.

I sure do appreciate your heart and may God give you strength for the journey.

-Bob

[Dana Grant]

Kyle,

Praying for you... and your community as you serve God together.

Just remember that NazNet is MUCH MORE than a debate about the Emergent or emerging church. We've gotten pretty sidetracked over this thing... and there's plenty of ways we can love one another and share with one another that have nothing to do with this current debate. (Which also makes me feel a bit sick.)

Do what you need to do... but maybe you just need to stay away from a couple of threads... not away from NN altogether!

Blessings

Kyle --

For some refreshing time on NazNet -- you could always visit the photography board.....we have no controversy, and we have beautiful photos!!!

(blatant commercial for the photography board.....)

Dana

edit: Oh!! And if you can't find us -- here's a link.... http://www.naznet.com/community/foru...13-Photography

[John Kennedy]

Kyle --

For some refreshing time on NazNet -- you could always visit the photography board.....we have no controversy, and we have beautiful photos!!!

(blatant commercial for the photography board.....)

Dana

Now that's what I call fishing in troubled waters.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Kyle --

For some refreshing time on NazNet -- you could always visit the photography board.....we have no controversy, and we have beautiful photos!!!

(blatant commercial for the photography board.....)

Dana

edit: Oh!! And if you can't find us -- here's a link.... http://www.naznet.com/community/foru...13-Photography

Not only that, but he can step out his front door and snap pics of some of the most beautiful scenery in the United States.

[Kyle Borger]

Ok, i will send some pictures from time to time.

[G R 'Scott' Cundiff]

Ok, i will send some pictures from time to time.

Seems I remember going to a rodeo in Cody one time. Is it still going on?

[Susan Unger]

This has become an unhealthy distraction for me. I have discovered that I really don't know anything. I can't afford to spend my time watching not just the Nazarene church but the church in the US be torn apart by this argument about the Emergent church. I am plain worn out just trying to figure out what an Emergent church is.

I have tried to read the articles and I have tried to read and watch the information from the Concerned Nazarenes and I just start feeling sick. I really just feel a darkness come upon me anytime this subject comes up.

I just can't do it. So much of this makes no sense to me. I see the behavior of many involved and I do not see Jesus. I have read the personal comments back and forth and on the various facebook pages and blogs on both sides and I see a joy that is present in declaring the other person wrong.

How can there be anything but sadness?

I'm sorry but my community here needs me. They need me to be healthy. I may be messed up theologically and I may not know anything. But every day all I can do is dedicate myself to serving Christ as His slave. All that I know to do is to lay myself out before Christ and beg Him to purify me and to find me useful. May I somehow, someway, in spite of my inadequacies and weakness, glorify God.

I echo what Jon said - I have to take a break from some threads or ignore certain topics altogether. Hope you'll come back soon

[Jim Chabot]

Ditto for what Jon said as well Kyle. Don't let things here get you down, seek out that which will help you and build you up and steer clear of conversations that drag you down. And yes absolutely, bury yourself daily in the work of ministering to folks, that is what really counts.

You are a good guy Kyle, and if you go away we will miss you. Mining the depths of theology isn't the end all, sometimes it is just the little things that we pick up from each other that we can bring home to touch our people that make this place worthwhile.

This Sunday we are going to sing "Lord I LIft Your Name On High" over the offering. I wouldn't have thought of this if I hadn't read one of Jon's posts the other day. It's only a little thing, but I;m willing to bet that it will affect someone in a positive way. And you know what, I think that this was posted over in the wailing and gnashing of teeth thread.

Hang in there, I suspect that the reason this is getting to you is because you have a tender heart. That's a really good thing.

[Kyle Borger]

Seems I remember going to a rodeo in Cody one time. Is it still going on?

Every single night June through August.

[Susan Unger]

Hang in there, I suspect that the reason this is getting to you is because you have a tender heart. That's a really good thing.

Very good thing!

[Hans Deventer]

I have tried to read the articles and I have tried to read and watch the information from the Concerned Nazarenes and I just start feeling sick. I really just feel a darkness come upon me anytime this subject comes up.

Well, Ephesians 6 is there for a reason. And the battle is exactly where you now find it: the darkness tries to overcome you.

How can there be anything but sadness?

Indeed.

I'm sorry but my community here needs me. They need me to be healthy. I may be messed up theologically and I may not know anything. But every day all I can do is dedicate myself to serving Christ as His slave. All that I know to do is to lay myself out before Christ and beg Him to purify me and to find me useful. May I somehow, someway, in spite of my inadequacies and weakness, glorify God.

Kyle, you've done more than could reasonably be demanded from you. But now you know. Let go and praise God that you don't have to deal with this in your local situation.

God bless you, Kyle. You're a good man and certainly one in whom God is well pleased.

[Gina Stevenson]

Kyle --

For some refreshing time on NazNet -- you could always visit the photography board.....we have no controversy, and we have beautiful photos!!!

(blatant commercial for the photography board.....)

Dana

edit: Oh!! And if you can't find us -- here's a link.... http://www.naznet.com/community/foru...13-Photography

Or, if there is a need for something really light, there is always the Good Clean Fun forum:

http://www.naznet.com/community/foru...Good-Clean-Fun

. . . especially the never-ending thread:

http://www.naznet.com/community/show...ng-quot-thread

[Susan Unger]

Or, if there is a need for something really light, there is always the Good Clean Fun forum:

http://www.naznet.com/community/foru...Good-Clean-Fun

. . . especially the never-ending thread:

http://www.naznet.com/community/show...ng-quot-thread

Best thread in all of NN!