Somebody asked me that today, "Are all 'tv preachers' fundamentalists?" I had no idea how to answer, but said I'd see what I could find out. I don't really keep up with tv ministries. I assume those affiliated with Baptist churches are Calvinistic, but other than a couple of obvious ones that come to mind. I really don't know about the others. How would you have answered that question? How would one find that out?
No, many are just shysters.
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Generally speaking, I would say 'yes', although it might be an insult to bona fide fundamentalists who came to that position based on reason/experience and not based on expedient fundraising.Originally Posted by Peggy Gray
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us wthout end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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Agree. Mostly greedy.
The lady is a shut-in who just wanted to know if there were any "sermons" she could watch that contained solid Wesleyan doctrine, or at least Calvinist that wasn't too far "overboard". I can probably try to find out who is on her channels and see if they have websites that state their beliefs.
You might wish to check out Charles Stanley for her. His statement of faith is here:
http://www.intouch.org/about/what-we-believe
-Jim
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There are also Billy Graham reruns.
If she has a computer she may be able to watch lots of good Nazarene sermons on line.
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Or how about his son, Andy? http://www.northpoint.org/
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I was at a local tire store yesterday morning having new tires installed on my wife's Buick. The store was busy and the waiting room was full of people, from middle school kids to senior adults. The TV was on the ABC family channel, and after a while, the program changed at the top of the hour to a televangelist we all know with the name that begins with Pat... I am always interested to see how people react to particular situations, and even the middle school kids started to look for the remote. Some got up and left to look at wheels and tires, and one of the middle school kids found a cartoon channel. It wasn't hard to figure out what didn't work for everyone in the room...yes, I would have left too...
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Or are dispensationalists. When my health was at its very worst, I would watch religious programming. Eventually, it got to the point where the only thing that I could tolerate was EWTN. They at least seemed to be able to communicate without yelling and with reason.
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There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. 1 John 4:18a
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The Stanleys seem to be solid. David Jeremiah also seems to be biblical. Jack van Impe is provocative.
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I always liked David Jeremiah. Only heard him on the radio though.
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There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. 1 John 4:18a
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Jack and Rexella are a trip. EVERYTHING that happens fulfills a prophecy about Jesus' return. If a bear goes into the woods... Jesus is coming back soon.
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I would say that most are dispensationist and most are fundamentalists
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First heard David Jeremiah before he was in California. Remember him from eons ago at a C&MA camp meeting, Beulah Beach, Ohio, on Lake Erie. Seems he was from Ohio at that time, or nearby. Anyway, the camp was close enough that it usually would include a CedarPoint excursion, too.
Found this re him: http://www.davidjeremiah.org/site/content.aspx?id=58
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No doubt, he is out there. I've yet to hear anyone with more scripture committed to memory though. His memory is incredible, must have been involved in youth quizzing for sure!Jack and Rexella are a trip. EVERYTHING that happens fulfills a prophecy about Jesus' return. If a bear goes into the woods... Jesus is coming back soon.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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Don't recall how young, but many many years ago he came to town (only had to come across state, since they're from the East. side). He was called The Walking Bible at that time, and it is no small feat to have memorized all he has, so it is one of those "don't throw the baby out with the bath water" situations.
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I still have an LP record of his sermons. On one side he preaches on Judas Iscariot and he does a good piece of expository preaching, on the other is of course speculative eschatology where he appears to be a bit nutty and all wet to me. On the whole, I think that he is genuine and sincere, I like him even though I don't agree with him.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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I agree with that assessment. I think he is sincerely off base on a lot of things, but he tries. He is not nearly as entertaining as some of his compadres though. My favorite is Ernest Angley.
Roy, WHO!? Guess I have to click on your link, huh?
ETA: he's wearing quite a visible "rug.".
Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one.
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I was raised outside the church and he was on TV when I was a kid and we used to watch him for the pure entertainment value. He is flamboyant, annoying, and that hair, oh my goodness that hair. He took over Rex Humbard's old church I believe.Roy, WHO!? Guess I have to click on your link, huh?
ETA: he's wearing quite a visible "rug.".
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A friend of mine used to joke that his career goal was to be Ernest's 'chief catcher' and lead bass in the Singing Men.......
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Rex Humbard? But he (from that clip) is different than Rex, for sure. Seems I recall him & Maude Amy being more into music than healing shows??
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None of these posers will ever equal the great Gene Scott. TV preachin' has never been the same since ol' Gene.
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Amen, brother. Preach it!!!!
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I believe Angley and Humbard were both from Akron. Humbard, et al, was somewhat more polished than Angley, who did a bit of 'slaying in the spirit' (thus my friend's ambition to be 'chief catcher'.
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Amen to that! Ol Gene never needed to "turn a phrase" he had natural charisma! Still miss the guy, as nutty as he was, hard to believe I watched him on and off for twenty years. And never sent him a dime! He, he, he, he..........
-Jim
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That's a good bit of yelling there, so had to turn him off. Do seem to recall long ago when he was on & I would catch at least a bit of the program now & then, more talking than yelling. Was surprised seeing this clip here, actually, that there was such yelling ... maybe he turned it down as he got older?? Anyway, I recall an older-looking-than-this Gene Scott, who seemed more capable of sarcasm than a lot of yelling??
Did I remember him right, or mixed up w/someone else? Don't think so ....
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No, that's him. He morphed a great deal over the years. Here is more than you probably want to watch...but there are some real classics here...Did I remember him right, or mixed up w/someone else? Don't think so ....
Gene Scott Videos
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He would go back and forth between talkin real nice and yelling. He could go from Jeckle to Hyde in the bat of an eye, always entertaining, if you could laugh off the yelling.That's a good bit of yelling there, so had to turn him off. Do seem to recall long ago when he was on & I would catch at least a bit of the program now & then, more talking than yelling. Was surprised seeing this clip here, actually, that there was such yelling ... maybe he turned it down as he got older?? Anyway, I recall an older-looking-than-this Gene Scott, who seemed more capable of sarcasm than a lot of yelling??
Did I remember him right, or mixed up w/someone else? Don't think so ....
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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Thanks Dave, haven't seen him in a bunch of years now. Brings back memories!
Am I boring you?
Git on the TELEPHONES!
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
Oh, my goodness! Bookmarked the page for when I need a laugh & have some time. Don't recall those various hats, so guess I did not see much of him. Those sermon titles added to the hats, well ....
Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one.
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It takes a great deal of maturity to accept that trying to eliminate all risk eliminates life.
~ Susan Lapin ~
Though many of them are too good to miss, this is one of my favorites: Rev. Fred HallOh, my goodness! Bookmarked the page for when I need a laugh & have some time. Don't recall those various hats, so guess I did not see much of him. Those sermon titles added to the hats, well ....
Doesn't get much better than Gene Scott ridiculing a TBN preacher while smoking his pipe. Or maybe he is praising him. Hard to tell.
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So..I should just tell the shut-in lady that David Jeremiah, Charles Stanley, and re-runs of Billy Graham are probably safe, but everybody else is either a shyster or a crackpot?
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Again, I must say, "Oh, my goodness!" did not realize that some on that page were supposed to be music, other than one mentioning the sax, or some singing men in another. Got to LOL'ing @ "Where are the words to that song!?"
Jest cain't wait to hear his version of 'Beulah Land'!Oh, it's harder and harder to love some d#!@? Preachers ...."
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ETA: oh, dear ... Worst singing of the three songs heard so far, it was ... apropos commentary, if there were to be any tho' ... he stopped to ask what a zephyr is ... yeah, what is it ~~ without googling or dictionary.com?
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