Which sport do you see as having the most disciplined athletes out there?
And maybe well lean on the self-discipline side of things.
Be broad if you want to there are many many sports.
Which sport do you see as having the most disciplined athletes out there?
And maybe well lean on the self-discipline side of things.
Be broad if you want to there are many many sports.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
Golf, in my opinionOriginally Posted by Steven Burton
Certainly, and I would say most all of the individual sports like freestyle/Greco-Roman wrestling, cycling, Tennis, etc
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There is a 70.3 mile Ironman race in Boise today - a 1.2 mile swim, a 56-mile bike ride, and a 13.1-mile run. I think that would take quite a bit of self-discipline.
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For self-discipline, it would have to be an individual sport, right? Golf makes sense. ESPN says Boxing is the toughest sport, but I don't know if that means it requires the most self-discipline. I'm guessing it would also depend on the individual. For instance, I found that I was more able to focus on something if my practice time could be a competition. So a sport where I couldn't "score" myself would be harder for me to focus on (ie, I can improve my score on the links, but I can't knock out my punching bag). But then, I am far from a professional athlete, and I don't know if such a mindset is common among those who are.
What about martial arts?
Well mine is not even on the list but there would be a reason for that. Since it is not really recognized by many as a sport.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
and that would be...?
Bodybuilding. It has to much drugs to be consider a real sport by most. Even though I laugh at the drug policies and test they use in professional sports. I knew some guys in high school who could beat the drug test and where even open about it. So if high school kids could beat the test what does that say about athletes who actually know a lot more about the substances and tests. Not to mention the fact that there are many drugs that do the same thing that are legal and only get pulled by the FDA after they prove to have positive results.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
I don't disagree that it's a sport, but I'm not sure I see the argument for it being the most difficult, or requiring the most discipline. Nearly every sport requires a lot of physical activity, with the distinction being in which muscle groups are the focus, and whether it's primarily aerobic or anaerobic. Body building has the added component of toning/sculpting exercises, so it might necessitate a bit more in the way of strength exercises, but the majority of other sports require a good deal of hand-eye coordination, and many also incorporate cardiovascular endurance. So while bodybuilding has an increased strength training component, I think active-competition sports have other elements which require more total discipline in order to be elite.
See and here is where we break on self discipline. I see self discipline as someone who is able to put his body through things even other athletes would not do. I have yet to meet an athlete that would even dare to touch a precontest diet of a bodybuilder you are talking no carbs, dehydration, and being the at the weakest point of your whole training before you even step on stage. Most athletes I know don't have the kind of discipline it takes to put their body through all the crap they do just to win. What you see on stage is actually them at their weakest point trying to win the biggest prize they have.
The mental aspect of putting your body through all that will usually break people.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
not sure self-dehydration is what I'd consider the epitome of discipline... yet de-carbing is actually a pretty popular dietary method, and a fair number of religious sects include extreme levels of fasting (If the Didache is to be trusted, Christians were once expected to go 2 days/week without food or drink). Still, but if you want to define self-discipline as putting your body through things even other athletes would not do (and that seems like a flawed definition to me), then marathon running, boxing, the IronMan triathlon, World's Strongest Man, and even Competitive Eating have aspects that qualify. Of course no other athlete would have that same precontest diet, because it would be detrimental to his/her performance, just like a marathoner's carbo-loading routine would hurt a body builder if s/he did it at the wrong time. I think if you're basing discipline on the things an athlete puts his/her body through in order to be competitive, then there's really no clear-cut winner.
Ryan,
My pastor just completed a half ironman. I was there to see him finish. It was a huge undertaking. He would like to do a full, but it requires nearly all of your energy. It would be difficult to accomplish and keep your day job.
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I think it would be really cool if Christians exhibited the virtue of self-discipline with their bodies. Imagine the witness? Unfortunately, we have a very high rate of obesity in the pews. Pastors seem to be in a very high risk category for health issues. How is it that we can be self-disciplined spiritually and yet so completely careless with our bodies?
John Wesley had buns of steel, we have buns of marshmellow.
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Well I did say be broad I would consider those listed as sports and have a high level of discipline. Most of my reasoning comes more for the life style they have to live than for the lifting and competition. Only sport I know who works 24/7, 365.
Let you in on a secret which sport was the first to hire bodybuilders for trainers. Bet you can take a good guess at this. Just remember the 15 rounds of fighting was provide by bodybuilders training that athlete to his peak performance.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
I concur which is why I have made lifestyle changes.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
Huh!? "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis!?" BUNS OF STEEL!? First time I ever "heerd" of such a thing. So, that is part of the Wesleyan quad now, eh? 'Better get hoppin', and start workin' out again, I guess!
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I am slightly serious about it. Wesley was extremely rugged physically and insisted upon walking to most of his destinations (even at an old age). It was said of Wesley that he was quite clumsy on a horse and was not particularly fond of carriages either. He could walk and read a book at the same time. Ten miles a day on foot was not terribly difficult for Wesley at all. You know those legs, thighs, and gluts must have been rock solid.Huh!? "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis!?" BUNS OF STEEL!? First time I ever "heerd" of such a thing. So, that is part of the Wesleyan quad now, eh? 'Better get hoppin', and start workin' out again, I guess!
OK, Bob. Sorry for turning it into a humorous thing. Had not heard of his walking all over creation. That was quite a feat, if ten miles were a normal day.
Eta: have to admit, tho', that "buns of steel" did give it a funny bent, reminiscent of those infomercials we run across when channel flipping, promising folks these "buns of steel."
Life beats down and crushes the soul and art reminds you that you have one.
~ Stella Adler ~
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It takes a great deal of maturity to accept that trying to eliminate all risk eliminates life.
~ Susan Lapin ~
OK, Bob. Sorry for turning it into a humorous thing. Had not heard of his walking all over creation. That was quite a feat, if ten miles were a normal day.
Eta: have to admit, tho', that "buns of steel" did give it a funny bent, reminiscent of those infomercials we run across when channel flipping, promising folks these "buns of steel."
Everyone should have buns of steel!
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