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    Rare conversation for me....

    Weight issues. I rarely talk about this, but I could use your prayers.........

    Long story....

    As you all know, in 2007 I had a heart attack and CABG x4 (bypass surgery). My life completely changed.

    I kept my weight completely under control, ate an excellent diet, and resumed my long-distance walking (4-7 miles daily) pretty soon after my surgery.

    Along with heart disease comes quite a few new medications. AND insulin, because the cardiologist wanted me to have very strict control of my blood sugar. He also wanted me to have fruit in my diet. Fruit has sugar. So, insulin shots became part of my daily life.

    IN December 2008, our family went with 3 other families to Mexico for a mission trip. We gave out many food boxes and LOTS of clothing. It was a true blessing. However, because I limit my fat intake to UNDER 30 grams of total fat per day, I decided it would be best to take my own food. Plus I was trying to lose those last stubborn 7 pounds to reach my goal weight and a good weight for my build and lifestyle.

    I was excited to get on the scale in January after we returned from Mexico. It would be fun to finally be close to my goal that I set with my doctors. But, alas, I stepped on the scale to see that I had gained 3 pounds.

    In the next month, I gained approximately 10 more pounds. All the while eating my fresh fruits and veggies, fish, salads, etc. Probably about 1200 calories per day. Tops.

    When I hit 15 pounds, and I saw my ankles swell to the same size as my calves, I became fearful that I was in congestive heart failure. The only problem with that was that I had no symptoms other than the swelling. But I headed out to my cardiologist.

    the cardiologist did an echocardiogram, and from that I learned that my ejection fraction was back up to 55% (good) and that I had NO cardiomegaly, and that my cardiovascular status was great. Well, that did not answer any of my questions. He told me to limit my salt intake (I never add salt to anything that I cook, and I almost never eat processed meats or other foods).

    The weight gain continued -- up 25 pounds -- off to another doctor. Primary care physician -- he took a look at my ankles -- now swollen to where you could not tell when my calf ended and my ankle began.....it was pretty irritating. He would have sent me to the cardiologist, but I'd already done that.....so he sent me to an endocrinologist.

    FINALLY -- (up between 25 and 35 pounds by now -- it has taken about 6 months to go to all three of my doctors) -- I got in with the endocrinologist. She took a long time discussing my entire life with me. She finally took a look at my medication list, and started to smile. "I can tell you exactly what is wrong with you!!"

    It was the Norvasc, she said. "That Norvasc really affects some people. And sometimes it takes a few years of being on it before it starts to cause the weight gain." She told me that if I got off the Norvasc, I would see results in 2-3 days.

    However, she did not want to mess with my heart medications. She suggested that I go to my cardiologist. Well, it was at that time that I decided to change cardiologists. It took a few weeks for me to get an appointment with the new cardio, but finally, by the time I topped out with 40 pounds of weight gain, I saw the new cardiologist.

    She changed the medication, because she agreed with the endocrinologist. She said, now your ankles will be back to normal in a couple of days, but I'm sorry, you'll have to lose the weight just like the rest of us do!! Your weight won't melt off just because you're not on Norvasc anymore. So that was late in 2009.

    Sure enough, within 3 days of being off Norvasc, I had beautiful skinny ankles again!!! ha ha ha However, I had gained so much weight that I was just so down in the dumps......depressed.......irritated.....and in no mood to diet and exercise the pounds away.

    So, there went 2010, 2011, and half of 2012. FINALLY -- my mood lifted, and I was FINALLY ready to tackle losing this stupid weight.

    I've lost 15 pounds so far, and I have 25 more to go -- and then those last 7 pounds that I was trying to lose in Mexico!!! ha ha ha

    I refused to buy very many clothes, because I was NOT going to make this a permanent part of my body --so I've been wearing the same 4 or 5 outfits plus jeans, for the past 3 years. I can't wait to get back into my nearly new wardrobe that I had back in 2009......LOL After my heart attack, I had donated many of my clothes because I was very self-conscious about my scars and wanted to hide them. so I thinned out my wardrobe considerably and completely changed my style.

    SO, there you have it. I have poured out my innermost soul about my weight issues. I ask that if you ever think of me, please say a prayer that I can get through this in a timely manner and back to my "normal" life.

    Has anyone else ever had issues with meds??? I never thought that would happen to me -- I used to really poo-poo the idea of medication causing weight gain. However, when it happens to YOU, you tend to change your mind about such things......



    Thanks!!!

    Dana

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    Just added your name to my "special" prayer list--thank you for allowing us to help you carry this
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    Re: Rare conversation for me....

    I've noticed weight gain with one of my meds.

    Yes, I self-medicate.

    With ice cream.
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    As hard as it is to shed pounds it has to be discouraging to have a med that is helping in one area work against you in that area. Here's hoping you get a big win on this one.
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    Re: Rare conversation for me....

    Never had a med-based weight gain issue (I can do that non-medicinally with incredible ease). Several years back my doctor changed one of my blood pressure meds (can't even remember what it was) - after a few weeks I developed a dry, hacking cough.

    It was especially bad at night. I would cough 'til my head hurt. This went on for over a month. I tried evrything imaginable. I couldn't get in to see my regular doc right away and so I went to urgent care. They examined me and, among other things, had me use Alifair (think that's what it was called - kind of gray powder that you 'blow' into your mouth).

    I tried it a couple of times and then got to thinking - I've got this dry, hacking cough and I'm treating it by blowing dust into my mouth. Doesn't compute.)

    When I finally got in to see my doctor he listened to me for about 30 seconds and then held up his hand - "I know what it is", he said. It was the blood pressure med - so he prescribed a new one, Diovann; within a day the coughing stopped and the med does a beautiful job with the blood pressure.

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    "In the next month, I gained approximately 10 more pounds. All the while eating my fresh fruits and veggies, fish, salads, etc. Probably about 1200 calories per day. Tops. "

    Liar, liar, pants on fire. Don't you know that if your intake is less than your output, you will automatically lose weight? Simple science. Intake 1200 calories, output 1500 calories in exercise, voila!

    "I never thought that would happen to me -- I used to really poo-poo the idea of medication causing weight gain. However, when it happens to YOU, you tend to change your mind about such things......"

    Obviously I was being facetious. It got to the point after so many years that I would just nod my head as if in agreement to people who lectured me on how it's done. If nothing else, this lesson will make you wiser and more willing to listen to people who really have a difficult time even when they are eating and exercising right.

    Many medications list weight gain as a possible side effect.

    I'm sure you've read everything there is about heart health, but just in case you missed it, this article discusses that low salt may be higher risk for heart attack:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7427AG20110503

    It could be since the study was put out they've decided it was not valid, but in case it is, I care enough to point it out to you, since you are being so diligent about keeping yourself alive.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Likens View Post
    I've noticed weight gain with one of my meds.

    Yes, I self-medicate.

    With ice cream.
    Yeah, I've got the same problem. Find a good lawyer and maybe we can get a class action started.
    Laughing Diane Likens - thanks for this funny post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanda VanWinkle View Post
    "In the next month, I gained approximately 10 more pounds. All the while eating my fresh fruits and veggies, fish, salads, etc. Probably about 1200 calories per day. Tops. "

    Liar, liar, pants on fire. Don't you know that if your intake is less than your output, you will automatically lose weight? Simple science. Intake 1200 calories, output 1500 calories in exercise, voila!

    "I never thought that would happen to me -- I used to really poo-poo the idea of medication causing weight gain. However, when it happens to YOU, you tend to change your mind about such things......"

    Obviously I was being facetious. It got to the point after so many years that I would just nod my head as if in agreement to people who lectured me on how it's done. If nothing else, this lesson will make you wiser and more willing to listen to people who really have a difficult time even when they are eating and exercising right.

    Many medications list weight gain as a possible side effect.

    I'm sure you've read everything there is about heart health, but just in case you missed it, this article discusses that low salt may be higher risk for heart attack:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7427AG20110503

    It could be since the study was put out they've decided it was not valid, but in case it is, I care enough to point it out to you, since you are being so diligent about keeping yourself alive.

    Thanks!!!

    Dana
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    Yes, Wanda, I had seen that information about the salt!! While I don't ADD salt to many things (watermelon with salt is a must), I also don't WORRY about salt that is already in the food that I eat. I mean, I don't go out seeking high salt content, but I also don't shy away from salt-containing foods. For example, I do eat a few pretzels now and then, but I stop after a few because of the carb count, not the salt count!! It is an interesting story, and it is ongoing, so I will follow it and see what eventually happens....

    And you are right, I was rather nonbelieving when people used to mention that it was a drug that caused their weight gain, or that people couldn't lose weight no matter what they did, etc. I'm learning that there are many reasons why someone cannot lose weight, and it is not always because they can't push away from the table. So, yes, I have a new sympathy that I did not have before.

    And it is funny, when I went off the medication that helped me gain weight, I immediately STOPPED gaining weight!! I mean IMMEDIATELY!! I haven't gained another pound since. Of course, I had trouble losing it because I just didn't try. That part was my own fault. Now I'm really working hard at it, and bumping up the exercise, and it is coming off rather easily.

    Interesting, to say the least.........
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    My brother has the same problems of balancing cardio with diabetes meds. It really is a treadmill! So glad you got to an endocrinologist, Dana. I too am working on med induced weight gain (the meds were only for a short time but the side effect of weight is another story!). Yes, I will remember to pray for you in this and would you pray for me, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kennedy View Post
    Never had a med-based weight gain issue (I can do that non-medicinally with incredible ease). Several years back my doctor changed one of my blood pressure meds (can't even remember what it was) - after a few weeks I developed a dry, hacking cough.

    It was especially bad at night. I would cough 'til my head hurt. This went on for over a month. I tried evrything imaginable. I couldn't get in to see my regular doc right away and so I went to urgent care. They examined me and, among other things, had me use Alifair (think that's what it was called - kind of gray powder that you 'blow' into your mouth). I tried it a couple of times and then got to thinking - I've got this dry, hacking cough and I'm treating it by blowing dust into my mouth. Doesn't compute.)

    When I finally got in to see my doctor he listened to me for about 30 seconds and then held up his hand - "I know what it is", he said. It was the blood pressure med - so he prescribed a new one, Diovann; within a day the coughing stopped and the med does a beautiful job with the blood pressure.
    JUST curious if the physician prescribing the Advair Diskus or the dispensing pharmacist told you of the Black Box Warning on this drug? Quite often that is never mentioned to the patients! After having seen quite a few people "messed up" with this drug and never having been told of the possible (probable) negative side effects OR the Black Box Warning, I'd caution people to think twice and investigate before using it. Also, that diskus costs about $235 USD.

    Glad someone found a solution to your problem via the blood pressure drug reaction.

    -et-
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kennedy View Post
    Never had a med-based weight gain issue (I can do that non-medicinally with incredible ease). Several years back my doctor changed one of my blood pressure meds (can't even remember what it was) - after a few weeks I developed a dry, hacking cough.

    It was especially bad at night. I would cough 'til my head hurt. This went on for over a month. I tried evrything imaginable. I couldn't get in to see my regular doc right away and so I went to urgent care. They examined me and, among other things, had me use Alifair (think that's what it was called - kind of gray powder that you 'blow' into your mouth).

    I tried it a couple of times and then got to thinking - I've got this dry, hacking cough and I'm treating it by blowing dust into my mouth. Doesn't compute.)

    When I finally got in to see my doctor he listened to me for about 30 seconds and then held up his hand - "I know what it is", he said. It was the blood pressure med - so he prescribed a new one, Diovann; within a day the coughing stopped and the med does a beautiful job with the blood pressure.
    That happened to a friend of mine. That horrible cough caused so much insomnia which then triggered so many other issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana Grant View Post
    Weight issues. I rarely talk about this, but I could use your prayers.........

    Long story....


    Has anyone else ever had issues with meds??? I never thought that would happen to me -- I used to really poo-poo the idea of medication causing weight gain. However, when it happens to YOU, you tend to change your mind about such things......

    Thanks!!!

    Dana
    I was on a beta blocker for over 10 years and gained SO much weight! It was truly horrible. After my health healed so that I no longer needed any blood pressure meds, I went off of it and the weight loss began. This is why I don't like to rely on meds at all. The side effects are sometimes worse than the cure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanda VanWinkle View Post
    Liar, liar, pants on fire. Don't you know that if your intake is less than your output, you will automatically lose weight? Simple science. Intake 1200 calories, output 1500 calories in exercise, voila!

    "I never thought that would happen to me -- I used to really poo-poo the idea of medication causing weight gain. However, when it happens to YOU, you tend to change your mind about such things......"

    Obviously I was being facetious.
    Yeah, I heard that as I exercised myself to death but gained weight instead. Then I discovered that I had hypothroidism. Once on proper medication and given a chance to heal, my life got back in order and I could lose weight once again.
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    My contraption has been out of whack for over a week so I am just now catching up Dana and the Grants will fit in on my prayer list between the Gaylords and the Grays today. God's blessings on you Determined Lady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edith Thurmond View Post
    JUST curious if the physician prescribing the Advair Diskus or the dispensing pharmacist told you of the Black Box Warning on this drug? Quite often that is never mentioned to the patients! After having seen quite a few people "messed up" with this drug and never having been told of the possible (probable) negative side effects OR the Black Box Warning, I'd caution people to think twice and investigate before using it. Also, that diskus costs about $235 USD.

    Glad someone found a solution to your problem via the blood pressure drug reaction.

    -et-
    Didn't stay with Advair long enough to do me any harm - treating a hacking cough by blowing dust in my mouth simply didn't compute.
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