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    A Case For Traditional Wet Shaving

    I used to hate shaving. HATE IT. Sensitive skin always gave me irritation every time and as a result, I only shaved about every 4 days and just went scruffy. A lot of the guys I speak to feel the same way. In May, I got into traditional wet shaving. For those who don't know, this is the system of shaving from yesteryear. It involves either a single double edge safety razor, a shave bowel and brush, and a shaving soap or good shaving cream. I probably sound like an infomercial about now but I can assure you, I am writing this to people who may hate shaving as much as I did as this style of shaving has made my life much more comfortable.

    First of all let me give the reasons to consider switching to this type of shaving:
    1. Its wwwwaaaayyyy cheaper-When I was shaving with my Fusion Razor, I paid about $10 for the handle and first blade and from their anywhere from $10-$15 on packages of 4 cartridges when needed. I even saw a pack of 8 "on sale" yesterday for $30. That is about $2.50 to,in some cases, over $4.00 a cartridge. The double edge safety razor blades on average cost about .20-.50 per blade. I just got 100 blades for $10 off of Amazon. They are cheaper and sharper than cartridge blades. You can get a nice nice safety razor for around $25-$30 off of Amazon. I know $25-$30 versus about $10 seems steep, but keep in mind this is a razor made generally of chrome vs. plastic and they will last you the rest of your life. (I can and will someday give mine to my son). Even if you don't want to spend that much, you can always do what I did and hit up some antique stores. I bought my 1970 Gillette Super Speed for 6 buck from an antique store and after about 30 minutes of disinfecting and scrubbing it down with household stuff such as toothpaste, dishwashing liquid, and boiling water, it looks great and will still last me the rest of my life if I take care of it (which I plan on doing). The shaving soaps and creams (not chemical goop you shoot out of a can) can range anywhere from $2-$25 for the higher end stuff. Shoot for about $10 for a decent product. once again do not be scared of the price as this stuff should last you anywhere from 6-12 months and is much better for your face than the dispensed gels and foams.

    2. It is better for the environment-You waste a lot of plastic with cartridge razors from the packaging of the razor itself to the blade holder to the packaging of the cartridges plus the cartridges themselves. Safety razors and blades all come in very minimal packing with little plastic. You toss a metal blade and small paper cover when the blade wears out (bout every 5-6 shaves for me).

    3. One blade is better than 3, 4, and 5- Yep, its true. The reason most get irritation is because all of those blades cut way too deep into the skin. This is where razor rash and ingrown hairs come from. A single edge blade is made to go 3-4 passes without giving irritation as it takes off a little bit at a time so you can shave with the grain, across the grain and against the grain without shaving too deep. Most guys I know tear up their face after just going with and against the grain with a Fusion or Mach 3 because, once again, it is overkill for your skin. Plus the blades in a cartridge are set at a certain angel, while the safety razor gives you a bit more freedom in slightly adjusting the angle as needed.

    Some things about traditional wet shaving you might not like:
    1. The initial start up cost- some people won't want to pay to get started, however you can do it for pretty cheap. I paid $6 for my razor, $1.50 for ten blades at Walmart, and $8 dollars for a wet shaving starter kit at Walmart which came with a shave bowl, boar brush, and puck of shave soap which sells for $1.50 by itself and is hands down better than any of the expensive gels I used. That's $15.50 to get started. And you can (and probably will) upgrade brushes and soap once you get the technique and everything down, but you certainly don't have to.

    2. It takes more time-There is no way around it, traditional wet shaving takes time. About 10-15 minutes more than what many are used to when you take into account mixing up your later and 3 passes with the razor. When this method of shaving was regularly used, shaving was thought of as a luxury, a way for guys to pamper themselves a bit. It was enjoyable and men looked forward to shaving. However businesses such as Gillette came up with the idea of cartridge razors to save time on a shave which rushed the whole process and lead to more and more blades which became overkill for mens skin quickly, but in turn made the companies a ton of money as the profits on the cartridge razors was obviously much higher than double edge blades. This style of shaving forces you to understand that a shave should be enjoyed, however if you absolutely don't want to spend anymore time shaving, then it probably will not work for you.

    3. The fear factor-Some might be really put off by the idea of running a double edge razor on their face. I know I was. Safety razors have safety bars which will not allow the angle of the blade to go too extreme so, carelessness aside, it is very easy to avoid nicks and cuts using a safety razor. I get less nicks with this then I ever did with my Fusion.

    4. Its a skill-When big companies began producing cartridge razors, they did not only make more money and cut down on the time it takes to shave (in many cases at the expense of a close comfortable shave) they also took away the skill of shaving. Most people can pick up a cartridge razor and drag it across their face no problem, however, with a safety razor you have to learn the right techique: how to hold the razor, how to apply little or no pressure and let the weight of the blade cut the whiskers, how to find the right angle, ect. This requires learning a new skill and can take anywhere from2-6 weeks to get down pat.

    If you are using a cartridge razor and love it, keep using it. If you hate it and made the switch like me, you know what I am saying. If you hate it and are on the fence or have never heard of it before, check out some youtube videos that speak more about it and show beginners techniques for traditional wet shaving. Check out Amazon and compare the prices. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask or PM. I think my grandfather was really on to something with this
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    When I as a teen, I used the double edge safety razor on my legs. Seriously. And the shaving soap and brush. I remember it taking a long time, but it was the end of my 1 - 2 hour bath (surrounded by candles and with a good book).

    It's interesting to know that some people still actually use this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane Likens View Post
    When I as a teen, I used the double edge safety razor on my legs. Seriously. And the shaving soap and brush. I remember it taking a long time, but it was the end of my 1 - 2 hour bath (surrounded by candles and with a good book).

    It's interesting to know that some people still actually use this stuff.

    More than you'd think. There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
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    Sounds like more work than I'm interested in. I do know others though that use a safety razor because of the sensitive skin issue and they love it. For me, I still use the pewter handled Trac II razor my wife bought me in 1975. I buy the Wilkinson blades from Walmart which cost $3.54 for a pack of 10.
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    It's so great to find out that some young folks are willing to learn what us old geezers have known for much longer than they have been alive. Onward Christian Shavers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam Pence View Post
    2. It takes more time-There is no way around it, traditional wet shaving takes time. About 10-15 minutes more than what many are used to when you take into account mixing up your later and 3 passes with the razor. When this method of shaving was regularly used, shaving was thought of as a luxury, a way for guys to pamper themselves a bit. It was enjoyable and men looked forward to shaving. However businesses such as Gillette came up with the idea of cartridge razors to save time on a shave which rushed the whole process and lead to more and more blades which became overkill for mens skin quickly, but in turn made the companies a ton of money as the profits on the cartridge razors was obviously much higher than double edge blades. This style of shaving forces you to understand that a shave should be enjoyed, however if you absolutely don't want to spend anymore time shaving, then it probably will not work for you.
    This is ultimately the barrier for me that keeps me from doing it. Plus, since I keep a beard most of the time, I can easily get away with 2 days of not shaving. However, my beard grows in pretty full and thick by 3 or 4 days, so I have to start cleaning it up after 2. Likewise, most of my shaving/grooming includes my head and my chest, which just adds a lot more to the time. The last thing I want is for it to take longer.

    I usually get by on a $30 electric beard trimming set with a shaving attachment. Currently, I am enjoying this one more than any so far.

    These usually last me a year before the blades are dull and I need to buy a replacement. No matter how you look at it, it's hard to beat $30/year.
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    I've used safty razors before, and they are indeed a nice shave. Mine broke a while back, and I just haven't gotten around to replacing it. Since I shave my head, I usually have several different shaving devices around.
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    Way too much work Cam, forget it!

    I haven't shaved in almost 35 years now, and I'm not never planning on starting! Just set the trimmer at 1/8" and run it all over your head every couple of weeks, then pull of off the rake to trim around the edges. Done and done! No shaving and no barber, just the way I likes it!
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    I learned to shave this way. It does take skill not to cut your face up. Had a terrible time as a teenager and pimples when I shaved with it. But when I went in the army in 1965 that was the only way you were allowed to shave. Loved the brush and there are lots to choose from. The brush was also handy for cleaning your weapon. So everyone always had several in their footlocker. The razor was great to use in the jungle when I was in Vietnam. But we dry shaved everyday with them. Water was for drinking and not shaving. The razor did a fantastic job dry shaving. No cuts or nicks. The razor blade was also great for cutting threads and other things off your uniform and TA50 when it came to inspections. This brings back great memories.
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    I find this thread so very depressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Smiley View Post
    I learned to shave this way. It does take skill not to cut your face up. Had a terrible time as a teenager and pimples when I shaved with it. But when I went in the army in 1965 that was the only way you were allowed to shave. Loved the brush and there are lots to choose from. The brush was also handy for cleaning your weapon. So everyone always had several in their footlocker. The razor was great to use in the jungle when I was in Vietnam. But we dry shaved everyday with them. Water was for drinking and not shaving. The razor did a fantastic job dry shaving. No cuts or nicks. The razor blade was also great for cutting threads and other things off your uniform and TA50 when it came to inspections. This brings back great memories.
    Not gonna lie...dry shaving with a safety razor is pretty hardcore
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Parker View Post
    I find this thread so very depressing.


    I wouldn't worry about it....it would take much more than a safety razor to tackle the Grizzly Adams you're rocking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin Burch View Post
    This is ultimately the barrier for me that keeps me from doing it. Plus, since I keep a beard most of the time, I can easily get away with 2 days of not shaving. However, my beard grows in pretty full and thick by 3 or 4 days, so I have to start cleaning it up after 2. Likewise, most of my shaving/grooming includes my head and my chest, which just adds a lot more to the time. The last thing I want is for it to take longer.

    I usually get by on a $30 electric beard trimming set with a shaving attachment. Currently, I am enjoying this one more than any so far.

    These usually last me a year before the blades are dull and I need to buy a replacement. No matter how you look at it, it's hard to beat $30/year.
    Let this thread be resurrected!!!

    No but seriously.....I may have been hasty in telling about the time constrants....if you do one pass with a safety razor, it can actually shave (pun intended) time off of your daily routine. Here is a video of a safety razor shave on a pretty thick growth in less than 5 minutes. Plus for fun a hardcore one of a guy who shaves off a full beard with a straight in less than 3.



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    I trim the unruly bits with a buzzer, and that's about it. I'm planning at some point to develop the patience to let my beard grow through the awkward middle phase and start making its journey toward my naval.
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    Glad to see that with the Current Events forum in "time out" we're getting back to the conversations that really matter.
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    I really don't have anything to say except...


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    Quote Originally Posted by George Wallace View Post
    I really don't have anything to say except...

    George, you old Nazarite you! I'm not going past 1/4" when it get that deep I cut it back to 1/8"

    Hey what's going on here, there are no bearded smiley emoticons. We need to complain to management. Scott has a beard, he can help us!
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    Well maybe I could say... #1 Son...(and #1 Daughter but here facial hair shouldn't be at issue )


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    And I guess I could say a bit about #2 Son....(Daughter-in-law too, I hope does not have significant facial hair issues.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by George Wallace View Post
    I really don't have anything to say except...

    Wow George. You and David should start a Mountain Man club. Really took Spurgeon to heart on this one huh?
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    Naw, Presbyterians!


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    Quote Originally Posted by George Wallace View Post
    I really don't have anything to say except...

    Thou almost convinces me to grow a full beard

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    Cam, that second video was downright scary! (the straight razor)
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Wallace View Post
    I really don't have anything to say except...



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    George if women are staring at your beard when talking to you...it is because they are worried something might fly out of it and hit them in the face.

    I just bought a new razor last night. Fusion based with a trimmer in the handle(that is why I bought it)

    I wet shaved for years and years but a few years ago I was given a huge supply of Fusion blades for Christmas. So I switched to my free blades and after going through all of those I am stuck. My wife threw out by wet kit or at least it is in a box in the loft in the storage building or something.

    I can't help think that George's picture should be in sepia and not color.Click image for larger version

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    For a good twenty-five years I have shaved in the shower. I know that is too much information, but the way it is. Just the bare facts. In my mind, simple soap and a 2 bladed, cheap, razer gives the best possible shave. When are whiskers more amenable to shaving than in the environ of a hot showe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Cozby View Post
    George if women are staring at your beard when talking to you...it is because they are worried something might fly out of it and hit them in the face.

    I just bought a new razor last night. Fusion based with a trimmer in the handle(that is why I bought it)

    I wet shaved for years and years but a few years ago I was given a huge supply of Fusion blades for Christmas. So I switched to my free blades and after going through all of those I am stuck. My wife threw out by wet kit or at least it is in a box in the loft in the storage building or something.

    I can't help think that George's picture should be in sepia and not color.Attachment 4566
    I love the sepia but to be true to that type of photo I would need a somber face or at least a slight scowl, instead of the cheesy grin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Smith View Post
    For a good twenty-five years I have shaved in the shower. I know that is too much information, but the way it is. Just the bare facts. In my mind, simple soap and a 2 bladed, cheap, razer gives the best possible shave. When are whiskers more amenable to shaving than in the environ of a hot showe
    Friend,

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    I shave my head in a hot bath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Cozby View Post
    George if women are staring at your beard when talking to you...it is because they are worried something might fly out of it and hit them in the face.

    ...
    I can't help think that George's picture should be in sepia and not color.Attachment 4566
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    I really don't have anything to say except...

    You need this shirt George....
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    Re: A Case For Traditional Wet Shaving

    Quote Originally Posted by Wes Smith View Post
    For a good twenty-five years I have shaved in the shower.
    Now that's what I call wet shaving.
    Thanks Susan Unger - "thanks" for this post

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