The iphone remains king of smart phones, at-least in terms of sales and hype.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/iph...le+Feedfetcher
The iphone remains king of smart phones, at-least in terms of sales and hype.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/14/iph...le+Feedfetcher
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Doesn't surprise me....people have been chomping at the bit for this phone for a while......here's to hoping there is not an Iphone 5s in 4 months
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Someday, I'm gonna get me one. Looks like it won't be this week.Originally Posted by Gary Creely
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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I'll be jumping in line at 4am. Call me crazy, but I've got the opportunity to teach a class this semester at Olivet, and we just had our first test today. 4 hours to grade 32 tests while sitting in a chair to get the new iPhone? I'll take it!
I'll be upgrading, since I'm still using my 2-yr-old iPhone 4 on AT&T. I was planning to jump ship to Verizon, but now that it's out that you still can't talk & use data at the same time... I might not. I'm giving myself time to decide.
I've been with Verizon since I got my first cell phone, and have had the Verizon iPhone since day 1, and I could count on one hand the number of times that simultaneous voice and data would have been a big help. I'll guess you use your smartphone differently than me, but I've had no issues with Verizon since I've been a customer.I'll be upgrading, since I'm still using my 2-yr-old iPhone 4 on AT&T. I was planning to jump ship to Verizon, but now that it's out that you still can't talk & use data at the same time... I might not. I'm giving myself time to decide.
I think the only times it's come up are when I'm on the phone with someone and need to look something up online... searching Google or Google Maps, for example. But most of those times I've probably been on wifi at home or at work, so I'm sure it's only a handful of times that I've actually bumped into this issue.
I'm fairly certain I'll switch, since Verizon tends to have better service in most of the places I travel. I'm just not one to rush into things.
Edited to add: The iPhone came to Verizon in February 2011. I've been using an iPhone on AT&T since sometime in 2007. So I've had quite a bit more time to bump into the issue than you have, too, I suppose.
Another thought: what does this mean for driving and getting turn-by-turn directions while on the phone? If I'm talking & can't use data, how does the phone know where I am? That's just one of the questions I have to investigate before switching.
So the big flap on the new iphone (or IOS 6 really) is that the maps are not as good as Google maps were.
I have a couple thoughts to put this into perspective. First google maps came out 7 years ago, so it has 7 years of tweaking and crowd sourcing under its belt. Apples mapping is now turning 5, that is 5 days old. I would look for the maps to vastly improve over the next year. As for me, I think the turn by turn directions on the iphone are among the best rendered that I have seen.
By the way a major limitation on a verizon phone is you could not take a call and continue with navigation.
Americans are such wise consumers.
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I use an old tracfone which requires an ocassional increase in service units and all I can with it is make phone calls.
My wife and I are looking at getting Iphone 4s on our next upgrade next month and looked at the 5 the other day. Really most of the stuff we like about the 5 are part of Ios 6 so we will just stivck with the 4s
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One thing to consider is that when IOS 7 comes along there may be new features in it that the 4S will not get. Much like the 4 does not get turn by turn or siri.
Did you trade your smoke signal generator in on that trac phone?
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I should have prefaced that I only really use my phone for browsing, email, very few apps, sometimes GPS, sometimes Skype. My main concern is a dual core processor and we live in the sticks so we aren't getting better than 3g no matter what. The 5 is sweet but for what I would use it for, its just not worth the extra 100 for us
"Love without holiness disintegrates into sentimentality. Personal integrity is lost. But holiness without love is not holiness at all. In spite of its label, it displays harshness, judgmentalism, a critical spirit, and all its capacity for discrimination end in nit-picking and divisiveness."-Mildred Bangs Wynkoop
I'm such a caveman.... but I seriously cannot imagine ever needing a phone more capable than my 4S. I have no clue what I'd use it for, or how in the world it could be a "need." I am sure the 4S will be good enough for me until the day I die. Sadly, I am sure at one point no one will offer service for it.
- Ben
Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death! And to those in the tombs, bestowing life!
Χριστὸς ἀνέστη ἐκ νεκρῶν, θανάτῳ θάνατον πατήσας! καὶ τοῖς ἐν τοῖς μνήμασι, ζωὴν χαρισάμενος!
When your supplying your associates with private offices (pink), company cars (Escalalade) with gas cards and supporting a private jet.I suppose that cutting back on the phone bill makes it all make sense eh?
I do have to wonder if it also saves money parking the private jet at a closed airport?
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
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Absolute best phone I have ever owned was a Motorola Star Tac. That thing was incredible, it was durable and small, never even thought to take it off to crawl under a truck or a machine. I had 6 of them for parts and batteries so I could hang on forever....................Then verizon pulled the plug on me, because it didn't have gps the guvment wouldn't let them activate them anymore.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
I assume the parts were needed because you hadn't thought of taking it off before crawling under the truck?
I own and use several Apple products (own an iPad and an iMac, use a MacBook that the church owns). Their products are indeed very, very good. But the hype is pathetic.
I found this commercial hilarious and most good humor is so because it's founded on some element of truth.
Of course, Samsung goes ahead and uses the same tactics that they mock (how many times am I going to bump phones with someone else to get their playlist?).
But the innovation is on a down-curve, at least in terms of innovation that is readily useful to the average consumer. The hubbub over the weakness of their own maps* and the weird release of the new iPod Nano are some evidence of this. Even Apple fanboys are squirming (but that might also now be the cool thing to do since you can be the first to say, "It's because Steve Jobs isn't around.").
*I actually find playing around with the 3D satellite overlap in the new maps a pretty sweet thing in the major cities. Some incredible imagery and technology going on there.
IOS 6 was pushed to my iPhone 3G this morning, other than not having a camera lens on both sides of the phone, I don't think I'm missing missing much.
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I had 6 of them for parts and batteries
I do remember that phone.
I would crown the Motorola razor as the best basic phone I owned.
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I only lost three of them, one I plain wore it out, no numbers left on the keys and finally the hinge let go. The second one got wet, I was on the phone for an hour and a half while driving through South Carolina and Georgia, in the summer, in a truck that had 2-60 air conditioning. Enough sweat got into the phone to kill it. The good folks at the Verizon store in Clearwater, FL fixed me right up by activating one of my spares. The third one got killed outright, it got popped out of the holster while climbing down off of a loader, I'm guessing that it got caught on the top of the ladder. I didn't notice it until the next operator drove off with the loader. Looked exactly like what a turtle looks like when they get run over. The nice folks at the verizon store then politely informed me that federal law prevented them from activating another one because of the lack of gps.I assume the parts were needed because you hadn't thought of taking it off before crawling under the truck?
It was during Bush's term but I'm blaming Obama, cause he was in the Senate and everybody knows that the House and Senate controlled everything prior to 2008.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
Yep, Star Tac on steroids. I would have gotten one of them but I was nervous about the outside display.
Here is my pictorial phone history.
Solid as a rock, eventually installed it permanently in my camper.
Time for a smaller phone!
Had this one almost forever. i thought it was small.
Then I got my dream phone! Indestructable, good reception, spare batteries in your pocket. WHo could ask for anything more!
Had this one for a long time, it had a camera. Who needs a camera on a phone?
Wore out the hinge and it had to go.
And then came the big jump!
Droid X
Sorry, no picture, Scott can only afford to let us have five pictures per post. Can't even put a smiley on the end of this sentence. Unless I cheat. ;-)
I really like it, but it needs a battery and I'm up for an upgrade and verizon has iphones.
But the Droid has a charger nightstand alarm clock cradle and I've three of them set up so I don't need to bring a charger with me. And I've got the car nav cradle. And I'm not sure what sort of accessories that the iPhone will have. I am a little put off by the new connector on the 5, so I might opt for the 4s, but I don't know yet.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
Are you sure about this? I was googling the other day, trying to find out, and some were saying that GPS continues during a call on Verizon (even though data doesn't), meaning the turn-by-turn kept working. But I really don't know & am having trouble finding someone who can tell me for sure.
Your number 3 phone was my first phone circa 1996.
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No I am not. I imagine if they preload all the maps it would work.
I have a Motorola Krzr K1 that I got in 2006 that is still going strong. I have noticed though that as technology keeps advancing it seems to be faltering - sometimes sound is garbled. AT&T says no more fixes for it and that it's time to upgrade. I can hardly believe that this thing could be obsolete after only 6 years!
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Frankly, the main reason I'm thinking of getting the iPhone 5 is because I'm paying for it anyway with my monthly cell phone bill. They subsidize the cost of the phone by charging more in the bill... only when you're at the end of your contract, your bill doesn't go down! So if I'm going to be paying for the phone anyway, I might as well spend the extra $200-400 (the up-front, unsubsidized part) to get the new iPhone.
My other option would be to unlock my iPhone 4 and take it to T-Mobile or someone who might give me a lower rate... but it doesn't look like there's much out there that (1) has good service where I need to be and (2) is actually saving me any money. So I'll probably unlock my 4, get the 5, and sell the 4 on Craigslist or something.
This is exactly right. The iphone is one of the most heavily subsidized phones on the market. You could ebay of your iphone 4 for $300, and in one pocket have an iphone 5, and $100 in the other.
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Well, the long agonizing decision is over, I'm now in possesion of a Droid Razr M.
Going into this I was pretty sure that I was going to buy an iPhone as it would be compatible with the propresenter remote and stage display, and I was thinking that iTunes would be a plus as well.
But, they changed the charging/usb connector! Perhaps a non issue, but I'm hugely put off by mechanical issues. Every other apple product I own uses the old connector, not to mention that there is enough room on the phone case to have just left it alone. Carry around an adaptor? Not a real deal breaker, but not good.
I wasn't real happy with the screen either, it's long and narrow so the text still displays smaller than on the droid. Because of perspective issues, it appears that text on the iPhone 5 is identical to the size it was on the 4.
But the push over the edge for me is still in the availability of factory made, device specific accessories. With the droid, I've got a proprietary fits like a glove clip/holder/protector. Yes I know that this is available for the iPhone, but there's more. I also get nightstand charging cradles for each house and the camper, where the phone doubles as an alarm clock and automatically switches to this app when in the cradle charging. I also got the vehicle cradle which automatically switches the phone to vehicle/nav mode when inserted in the cradle. It's more than just the phone, it's the whole package that convinced me. YMMV
Sometime this week I'm going to get the nav up and working and I'll have my wife call me to see how it affects things. I'll report back to tell how verizon's data/phone exclusivity affects this.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
Congrats on finding a phone that works for you, Jim!
Some Verizon phones can do simultaneous voice and data because they have an extra antenna. I don't know if the Droid Razr M is one of them. But I know the iPhone 5 is not.
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To each his own. I woke up this morning to the realization that shutting off the alarm on a brand new phone in the dark without reading glasses can be a challenge! I also realized that I have never had a non Motorola cell phone since my first one back in the late 80's
I'm thinking that part of my decision making process is partly due to brand familiarity and comfort. Although I was quite conflicted as I had resisted apple products since back in the pre mac days, but once I became forcibly immersed, I'm converted and very happy.
I hadn't heard that. Gary has been saying that it's part of verizon's network protocol where they aren't supporting simultaneous transmission. I'll let Gary help us out as he seems to be quite knowledgable. I do believe that he can do both with his iPhone 4
Now to see what kind of luck I'll have getting rid of the Droid X on ebay.
-Jim
To know and to serve God, of course, is why we're here, a clear truth, that, like the nose on your face, is near at hand and easily discernible but can make you dizzy if you try to focus on it hard. But a little faith will see you through.
Garrison Keillor
It seems when you are using GPS it preloads the maps. With att when you are on edge you can not talk and get data at the same time, but my navigation worked well even then. I can't imagine that would be different on Verizon. Also I believe with Verizon when you are on LTE you can do data and voice at the same time only if you have a phone with an extra antenna (which the iphone does not). When Verizon updates to the more modern version of LTE then the iphone 5 will be able to do voice and data.
For what it is worth if I were not going with an iphone 5 I would get a Galaxy SIII, particularly if I was on Verizon.
An other note to you world travelers, the iphone 5 in its Verizon and Sprint form come GSM sim unlocked. So if you go to europe you can slap in a prepay sim and be connected on the cheap.
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Ok so now that the Iphone 5 has been out for a couple of weeks, for those who have it, is it noticeably way better than the 4s?
"Love without holiness disintegrates into sentimentality. Personal integrity is lost. But holiness without love is not holiness at all. In spite of its label, it displays harshness, judgmentalism, a critical spirit, and all its capacity for discrimination end in nit-picking and divisiveness."-Mildred Bangs Wynkoop
I find myself, as an iPhone 4S owner, in complete agreement with this article.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mattmill...phone-5-today/
- Ben
Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death! And to those in the tombs, bestowing life!
Χριστὸς ἀνέστη ἐκ νεκρῶν, θανάτῳ θάνατον πατήσας! καὶ τοῖς ἐν τοῖς μνήμασι, ζωὴν χαρισάμενος!
yeah thats kind of where im leaning
"Love without holiness disintegrates into sentimentality. Personal integrity is lost. But holiness without love is not holiness at all. In spite of its label, it displays harshness, judgmentalism, a critical spirit, and all its capacity for discrimination end in nit-picking and divisiveness."-Mildred Bangs Wynkoop
Except for the fact that the author seems unaware that he could always email photos using the share button, I agree, too.
If I upgrade, I'll probably have to start using a case again. The 5 seems too prone to scratches and dings compared to my naked iPhone 4.
I think the author of that article is correct, it would not make sense to upgrade to a iPhone five if you did not have an upgrade coming. However, if you do have an upgrade coming it makes no sense to not upgrade. You could eBay off your old phone for $300, and get a new phone for $200. When you go to somewhere like AT&T versus say T-Mobile your monthly service is higher because of more frequent upgrades. T-Mobile offers plans that are way cheaper but do not include subsidies for new phones. To be with a major carrier and not immediately cash in your subsidized new phone is wasting money. When that phone is an iPhone you are wasting even more because there is no larger subsidy in the world of cell phones then an iPhone. The only reason for hesitating is if there is a new phone on the verge of being released and you want to wait until you can upgrade to that phone. To put it into perspective the iPhone is almost $100 more expensive than the galaxy S3. The subsidy for an iPhone five is $450. That comes out to about $18 a month spread out over two years for each device you have on your account. Every month you go without an upgrade past your two-year commitment is a month you are paying for a subsidy you are not getting.Except for the fact that the author seems unaware that he could always email photos using the share button, I agree, too.
If I upgrade, I'll probably have to start using a case again. The 5 seems too prone to scratches and dings compared to my naked iPhone 4.
If you consider that you are eligible for an upgrade after only 18 months then it actually comes out to $25 a month. Then when you figure the hundred dollars you can profit by selling your old phone that adds another $5 a month bringing your total subsidy amount to about $30 a month per device.
It always makes me scratch my head when people pronounce their frugality by displaying a cheesy old smart phone. I scratch my head because I know that there actually not saving any money if they are paying for a data plan on a major carrier.
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