Brothers, Please Just Preach the Gospel
People aren’t stupid. If you can’t teach Biblical truth from the pulpit in such a way that your congregation knows the kinds of things to look for in a candidate then you’re doing it wrong. Remember, the part that makes this “pulpit freedom Sunday” is the actual endorsement of a particular candidate. Pastors are allowed to endorse values and to condemn sin all we like.
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
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You mean the gospel isn't my political party !?!?Originally Posted by George Wallace
- Ben
Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death! And to those in the tombs, bestowing life!
Χριστὸς ἀνέστη ἐκ νεκρῶν, θανάτῳ θάνατον πατήσας! καὶ τοῖς ἐν τοῖς μνήμασι, ζωὴν χαρισάμενος!Post Thanks / Like - 2 Thanks, 5 Laughing
Is Jesus on the ballot?
5 thanks for a link to the Aqulia Report...??? This place never ceases to amaze me...
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
Make that six now.
"Means we use must be as pure as the ends we seek."
Of course not.
It's mine.
I'm sorry, George. I don't understand. What is the problem?5 thanks for a link to the Aqulia Report...??? This place never ceases to amaze me...
"Fully embracing the Gospel, fully engaging the world"
Well, I could start a thread about donut flavors and usually within about 5-8 Post somebody is upset because I am a Calvinist and Calvinists have no business discussing donut flavors.....
Yet, I post a Conservative Reformed response to the idiocy of "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" and it's the Hallelujah Chorus... just color me surprised that's all.
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
Thats because we like to CHOOSE whether we will like cream filled or not
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Truth is truth. I don't care who says it. The problem lies in that conservative reformed Christianity is usually so far to the fringes of orthodoxy, barely holding on, that problems arise.Well, I could start a thread about donut flavors and usually within about 5-8 Post somebody is upset because I am a Calvinist and Calvinists have no business discussing donut flavors.....
Yet, I post a Conservative Reformed response to the idiocy of "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" and it's the Hallelujah Chorus... just color me surprised that's all.
- Ben
Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death! And to those in the tombs, bestowing life!
Χριστὸς ἀνέστη ἐκ νεκρῶν, θανάτῳ θάνατον πατήσας! καὶ τοῖς ἐν τοῖς μνήμασι, ζωὴν χαρισάμενος!Post Thanks / Like - 4 Thanks, 0 Laughing
First of all, I will always disagree with your ridiculous views on donut flavors, because when I bite into a donut and it has raspberry filling instead of lemon filling, your preposterous theology says I was meant to eat raspberry filling. I REJECT THEE!!!!Well, I could start a thread about donut flavors and usually within about 5-8 Post somebody is upset because I am a Calvinist and Calvinists have no business discussing donut flavors.....
Yet, I post a Conservative Reformed response to the idiocy of "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" and it's the Hallelujah Chorus... just color me surprised that's all.
There are a lot of forms of apolitical Christianity. I'll agree with anyone who says endorsing a political party from the pulpit is not compatible with the Gospel, even if I disagree politically or theologically with that person.
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Just found another great opportunity here NOT to respond.
"No scripture can mean that God is not love, or that his mercy is not over all his works" (John Wesley - Free Grace, 26)Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 3 Laughing
I must confess to be confused with this thread, and I forgot to buy Dougnuts.
I don't think that 'Doug' is going to cooperate.I must confess to be confused with this thread, and I forgot to buy Dougnuts.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us wthout end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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First, Calvinists have no business discussing the selection of donuts.Well, I could start a thread about donut flavors and usually within about 5-8 Post somebody is upset because I am a Calvinist and Calvinists have no business discussing donut flavors.....
Yet, I post a Conservative Reformed response to the idiocy of "Pulpit Freedom Sunday" and it's the Hallelujah Chorus... just color me surprised that's all.
Second, how much longer will you continue to be surprised when you post in this forum? I would think the surprise would wear off by now. Of course, you may just have an extremely high "surprise" threshold.
Thanks for the article.
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by the way George, do you find it odd that this condemnation of endorsement comes from a person who thinks so highly of election?
George doesn't have the foreknowledge that God has, therefore he is still subject to surprise.
Dan Hamlin
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I guess you are at least partly correct, I probably do have a high "surprise" threshold. Sometimes I can almost tell you what some will say in a post/response and even when I am right I am still surprised.First, Calvinists have no business discussing the selection of donuts.
Second, how much longer will you continue to be surprised when you post in this forum? I would think the surprise would wear off by now. Of course, you may just have an extremely high "surprise" threshold.
Thanks for the article.
My surprise here is specifically the "unqualified" nature of the supporting comments. Meaning, this is the Aquila Report (read Nazareth) can anything good come out of the Aquila Report (Nazareth). What I expected, because I know that many here are sympathetic to this articles theme, was positive feedback based upon the articles theme coupled with all manner of complaint of where it came from. You know, something like "Great thought, too bad it came from.... It would have been better if..." You know like this, this is much, much more typical:
I want to see the original sources used to write this article, especially since it's on Breitbart.com.
It is really the unqualified support that surprises me here on NN in this thread anyway.
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
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You'll have to "unpack' this abit more as you youthful types like to say, as I am not tracking. Is it humor and I am missing it? A Legit question? If so have to admit that I am too thick to make the connections.
I just don't see the connection between 'election' and the 'condemnation of endorsement.' It does sound interesting, but I am clueless. If you'd care to explain, I'd be happy to engage.
Blessings
George
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
I don't see anything wrong with a preacher telling his people how we are becoming socialist country and how it will become worse if Obama is relect. I don't see anything wrong If preacher want to preach and tell his people if Obama is elect it will be a heaven on earth. We should have freedom of speech in or out the 4 wall of the church. But the idea of freedom sunday was to up against the ISA. If I would have preach last Sunday I would have told the people about freedom Sunday and what some of the pastors was doing. Then I would have taken my text and preach. I will be preaching this Sunday and who know I may mention the idea.
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It was humor. See... the candidates are competing in an election, and the Reformed folks are fans of the doctrine of election. It's what the Tahitians call a Double Entendre.
Okay... I get it now, a little humor (very little)
Might I suggest, humbly, that Stand-Up might not be your best career choice.
"Preach the gospel; if necessary use words" is like saying "feed the poor and; if necessary use food."
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You might want to read my live tweet of the debate last night before drawing such a conclusion. And besides that, I was sitting down.Okay... I get it now, a little humor (very little)
Might I suggest, humbly, that Stand-Up might not be your best career choice.
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